Perpetual Motion Holder | Edward Leedskalnin

[cody]

New Vid

Alright i made that video i promised. I finaly figured out how to download the video so you can see all the flashes, which you really need to in order to understand what im doing. There are 2 different effects im showing here. The first effect is just kind of like Duh.... of course that works, but i havnt seen anyone relate this yet. And the second one is very strange and is really baffleing me. It apperars(visually) to be giving out more energy than the energy applyied Im not saying that is what it actually is doing, but it does appear that way. Perhaps someone has a rational explanation for me. Anyways, let me know what you think
YouTube - Ed Leedskalnin 3

[lighty]

@Cody

As for the first effect you recorded it is a normal electro-magnetic induction that happens when you change the saturation levels of the core. Basically you showed how transformers with ferromagnetic core work. The only difference is that you didn't use coil and AC signal to magnetize and demagnetize core but you did it manually by saturating and desaturating core with permanent magnet.

I'm more interested in the second effect but I'm currently half-asleep (it's 4 AM here) so I will have to watch it and re-think it again tomorrow.

BTW- nice small setup you got there.

[cody]

Lighty,
I was hoping you would comment. The second one is really what i was hoping you could help explain, get some sleep and think about it. It only behaves this way when using an ac signal strange, let me know if you come up with anything.

[sucahyo]

Perhaps someone has a rational explanation for me. Anyways, let me know what you think
YouTube - Ed Leedskalnin 3

Very interesting video, I don't know what happen too unfortunately. For the first part of the video, maybe the magnet store the energy the same way electric do. For the second part, maybe the current can only get transfered to the LED when there are already magnet bridge. otherwise it is being used to charge the magnet and made the LED flashes because there is potential difference after magnet is recharged.

Is that LED bidirectional? It would be neat if it isn't, some people here would love to make a purple and green flashes.

[cody]

sucahyo,
watch my first 2 videos for a better explanation of my setup. The Leds are facing opposite directions to visually show the direction that current is flowing while im playing with it. I think you are right that the magnet stores the "perpetual current or whatever" the same as electricity does, its just not normally considered from a leedskalnin point of view, which is why i thought it might be important to show it. But thats just my opinion. As for the other effect, your guess is as good as mine at this point.

[sucahyo]

sucahyo,
watch my first 2 videos for a better explanation of my setup. The Leds are facing opposite directions to visually show the direction that current is flowing while im playing with it.

Ok, I will, thanks . I thought the LED is the one which glow red when current flow forward and glow green when current flow backward.

[cody]

Correct, it will show red in and green out in one polarity applied, but when i change the polarity supplied it changes direction, green in and red out. Get it? If I was just applying dc to the PMH it would always be the same color order, but since im using ac, the order changes with the polarity applied

[Raui]

Cody, you've presented quiet a nice video here props for that As for calculating energy in to energy out I have an idea.

J = ½CE²
Where;
J = Joules
C = Capacitance
E = Voltage

1)Charge up a small capacitor (Cap A) to full capacity.
2)Then use this equation; J = ½CE² to work out the amount of joules in the capacitor.
3)Discharge the capacitor into your circuit in place of the battery.
4) Replace your LED with another capacitor (Cap B) (I suggest using a higher voltage capacitor as you'll be dealing with a bedini-type pulse).
5) Remove the bridge from your magnetic circuit thus breaking the circuit.
6) Use a voltmeter to calculate the voltage and use the equation J = ½CE² to work out the ammount of energy outputted from the system.

Obviously if Cap A(Joules) < Cap B(Joules) then you have cohered some extra energy. All that you need is 2 capacitors and a voltmeter. Sorry if I am just stating the obvious :P

-Raui

[cody]

Raui,
You have got a great idea there. Unfortunately, i think its still a little more complicated than that, Ill probably have to figure out the saturation point of my setup first. Otherwise i could just be wasting cap A's energy if im using more than i need. But you are right, i probably could at least get some kind of idea doing an experiment like that. Honestly i was thinking this might be some well known event and someone would have told me what this is by now, but i still havnt heard an explanation yet.

Thanks

[ABCStore]

cody,
you're just adding your muscle energy to it, that's all, IMHO.

ABC

[cody]

ABC,
You bring up a good point. I am mainly just trying to figure out why it is behaving in this strange manor, not trying to use it for overunity. I really just want an explanation for what its doing

[lighty]

@Cody

My first thought is that after you pull off holder bar there is some residual magnetisation on the poles of PMH. So, when you put holder back on and turn it on because of the residual magnetization less current is needed to fully saturate core. Could you connect ampermeter instead of LED? In that way we can check if there is no current going through circuit or if there is just less circuit going through circuit. I suspect the latter will be the case.

[cody]

Lighty,
I was thinking it might be residual magnetism too, but you do a very good job of explaining it. Im not using soft iron so it does retain some residual magnetism. I believe you are correct, thank you. Ill do some current tests. Do you think this effect could in any way be usefull for anything, or am i looking at a dead end here?

[lighty]

@Cody

Well, so far I haven't seen anything than what one wouldn't expect to see according to textbooks.

But please do more measurements. Put analogue ampermeter in series and see what it shows. I would suggest for you to measure residual flux but I suspect you don't have gaussmeter.

[cody]

Flux Capacitor?

Gaussmeter: one of the many instruments on my wish list

Has anyone seen the movie "Back To The Future"? It just occured to me that the device that opperated his time machine was called a flux capacitor. Leedskalnin's PMH seems to be a flux capacitor.