Fuel-less combustion of AIR !!!

[Vortex]

O2 falling apart all over the place

Oh almond joy, Sometimes I think I'm a nut ..sometimes I don't.

I'm no chemist and I remember little of chemistry, but these facts do not add up.

Oxygen
Concentrated O2 will allow combustion to proceed rapidly and energetically. Steel pipes and storage vessels used to store and transmit both gaseous and liquid oxygen will act as a fuel; and therefore the design and manufacture of O2 systems requires special training to ensure that ignition sources are minimized

There it is, oxygen will act as a fuel....!!!

I'm missing the "chemical reaction" description of an oxygen explosion?
Where is that to be found? How does that work?

The issue is not if it burns, the issue becomes how to make it burn slowly.

Oxygen burns without fuel in a fast combustion called an explosion.
Oxygen they tell us, ONLY burns fast and never slowly. OK?
Fire is the oxidation of a combustible material and oxygen is NOT BURNING, only oxidizing.
Rusting of iron then is very very slow fire by the definition.

Iron (Fe) turns to Rust and O2 AND H20 just fall apart to do that, without any energy input (see below).. what's up with that? What's wrong with this?

FeO does not require water to create this rust..

Somewhere there's must be medium ground here between fast burn and fire oxidation where oxygen burns slowly.
Seems to be a large missing piece of between oxygen burning fast
and this slow oxidation called fire or rust.

Oxygen Cylinder Explosion - Safety Is A Concern And May Not Be Worth the Risk
The video above show very well that oxygen creates an extremely high temperature when exploding inside the oxygen tank without fuel.

When Oxygen falls apart is gives off light a red glow.. normally never seen.
I found this somewhere but lost it, if someone finds it again please let me know.

In school we had to remember this stuff to pass the test. We aren't in
school any more. We are allowed to question what we have been told.
It still makes no sense to me.

This is what we are told is going on to create rust, all without any energy input at ANY point in this transaction .. it just happens ...
Were we not told energy is release or must be put in to get a reaction.

See Rust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for details of these reactions.

Fe ---> Fe(2+) + 2e- (iron just happens to have a couple of electrons it need until O2+H20 comes along and then suddenly iron does not need these electrons and tosses them into the wind) What made that happen?

O2 + 4e- + 2 H2O ---> 4 OH- (greedy O2 and H20 can't wait fall apart)
OH- is Hydroxide. You can't go buy a bottle of Hydroxide (can you?), due to
it strongly interacts with other water molecules and anything else, it does
stick around long enough to be bottled, but yet here it is ...


4 Fe2+ + O2 ---> 4 Fe3+ + 2 O(2-)

Fe2+ + 2 H2O <--> Fe(OH)2 + 2 H+

Fe3+ + 3 H2O <--> Fe(OH)3 + 3 H+

And down here some how H20 fell apart and then rejoined to make new H20
again without energy input .. spontaneous reactions.

Fe(OH)2 <--> FeO + H2O
Fe(OH)3 <--> FeO(OH) + H2O
2 FeO(OH) <--> Fe2O3 + H2O

This just sound like something you would here from a witch doctor to me.
I'd more likely think a witch doctor is making sense before this stuff does.
This seems more magic than science to me

just and
Randy

[CloudSeeder]

You're having such a good time expounding on the new News that oxygen is a fuel... I thought I'd wait, let you bask in your nice post for a while. I can't speak for anyone else's engines but my own which is not a combustion engine nor was it ever combusting any fuels. The reason my earliest of web pages I was writing about using NITROGEN was because the scientist made his engine using nitrogen in 1997, Dr. Abraham Hertzberg.

So I went with the gas he used because his air-powered engine did in fact achieve a speed of 30 miles per hour. And gee, not that no one here thinks I'm lying since I updated the page, but the picture there showing NITROGEN is proof of it being my early 2003 page. I later found out that Dr. Hertzberg later admitted he did not need to use nitrogen at all, that he could have used PLAIN AIR. So sometimes I have interchangeably used oxygen in my writings, and I apologize if that has caused brainy people a PROBLEM, but I have for the past 2-3 years switched to saying PLAIN AIR trying to clear up the issue.

If I slipped and wrote OXYGEN I again must apologize. I don't know what engine your post is about but it has nothing to do with mine Air Powered Car: Reversed Steam (Vacuum) Power~Collapsed by Minus-320 Cold Air = Instant Explosion Dual Synergy Creation-Time Engine of 2003 17 Billion Years Old because my engine is a Physics Fuel properties Climate Engine. Compressed air is very cold, minus 320 degrees Fahrenheit. Dr. Hertzberg warmed it twice enroute from the big storage tank to the engine cylinder so the cold liquid nitrogen would not instantly "FLASH FREEZE" the piston to the cylinder walls, but in doing that he robbed the energy from reaching the cylinder.

So he only got 30 miles per hour.

I fixed that by adding Steam at a temperature canceling plus 320 degrees Fahrenheit. I won't take up more space here going further into what that does but I did want to make sure you were not heckling or ridiculing my engine for using combustion when it does nothing remotely combustion. My engine will now crank out many times the speed and horsepower of Dr. Hertzberg's accidentally-castrated engine of 1997.

And again, I apologize. My inventing has been a gradual unfolding process of discovery.

[Mark]

[CloudSeeder]

That's the funniest post I've ever seen, and Mark did it without a single word.
Queue the girl who carries out the awards please!

[CloudSeeder]

Gee, nobody called me on that big fat lie I wrote "gradual discovery" blah blah blah.

[tutanka]

gas processor is ready..

In the next days you can buy your gas processor on ebay completely made in Italy, with this you are able to transform air into reactive plasma using brown gas of your cell just as catalyst.. in the next days you can connect to web site http://www.air4gas.com and you can see gas processor images and video including price. A new fuel source is ready for this world!

[vrand]

In the next days you can buy your gas processor on ebay completely made in Italy, with this you are able to transform air into reactive plasma using brown gas of your cell just as catalyst.. in the next days you can connect to web site http://www.air4gas.com and you can see gas processor images and video including price. A new fuel source is ready for this world!

Hi Tut,
Looking forward to learning more on your processor. Can the gas output power a genset to make electricity for homes, to power a car engine?
Cheers Mike

[tutanka]

Hi Tut,
Looking forward to learning more on your processor. Can the gas output power a genset to make electricity for homes, to power a car engine?
Cheers Mike

Gas processor work to the same principle of Stan Meyer but don't use complicated circuits ,leds or high voltage. Each gas processor (very low dimension) can run an cylinder of your engine using only air and an lower amount of brown gas. In fact is an gas processor/injector. See attached photo .. The actual version include venturi injector for mix brown gas, in the future you have an hho injector. All versions have EEC (electron extraction circuit) on board. For more informations watch the web site (when is ready). Regards

[ewizard]

Glad to see you back tutanka and look forward to seeing and hearing more on this. It will certainly be a giant step if it can get into the hands of enough people quickly that it becomes an unstoppable momentum. So far the air4gas.com web site only has the home page with a picture and no links yet to the product, videos or prices? Will their be complete info on all the steps one needs to take to setup a car or generator? Wishing you great success in this.

[vrand]

Gas processor work to the same principle of Stan Meyer but don't use complicated circuits ,leds or high voltage. Each gas processor (very low dimension) can run an cylinder of your engine using only air and an lower amount of brown gas. In fact is an gas processor/injector. See attached photo .. The actual version include venturi injector for mix brown gas, in the future you have an hho injector. All versions have EEC (electron extraction circuit) on board. For more informations watch the web site (when is ready). Regards

Hi Tut,
Thank you for the info. Looking forward for your gas processor.
How much Browns Gas (LPM) is needed to fuel an engine cylinder?
So will need 4 of your gas processors to fuel a 4 cylinder engine?
Or only need one gas processor for a 4 cylinder engine with more Browns gas and air input?
Cheers Mike

[tutanka]

Hi Tut,
Thank you for the info. Looking forward for your gas processor.
How much Browns Gas (LPM) is needed to fuel an engine cylinder?
So will need 4 of your gas processors to fuel a 4 cylinder engine?
Or only need one gas processor for a 4 cylinder engine with more Browns gas and air input?
Cheers Mike

Hello,
Depend from the size of engine.. probably 1-1.5LPM max for cylinder but need to test. For each cylinder you need one gas processor/injector probably in the future just only one. For small engines you need just one Gas Processor.

Regards

[OrionLightShip]

This just sound like something you would here from a witch doctor to me.
I'd more likely think a witch doctor is making sense before this stuff does.
This seems more magic than science to me

just and
Randy

And then the witch doctor, he told me what to do
He said that ....

Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
Walla walla, bing bang

put the lime in the coconut and drink them both up

[tutanka]

HOW Gas Processor REALLY WORK..

In some web sites you can found these words:

"Since Meyer says he used the 4th energy level or lower lets look at that reaction.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol.
Can you see the reaction now? In the reaction just shown the energy to break the bonds of the water molecule has been subtracted(1836kJ/mol) from the energy content of the ionized oxygen atoms. These are energy content calculations, and it is good to note that gasoline has an energy content of only 495kJ/mol. This is how Stanley Meyer was able to run an 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.. The energy content is far greater than that of gasoline, more than 13 times greater."

Only in part that explaination is correct because you need to transform also nitrogen into positive ions. Gas Processor is the device that create positive ions from air trought an "soft ionization" as I call. There are two methods for reach the soft ionization , Meyer have used electromagnetic method (not HV) and photons (for nitrogen ionization), my device use JUST natural and precious components and have an life of 400 years. In all case EEC (Electron Extraction Circuit) is needed for reach the soft ionization.

Some peoples can ask: why Meyer have changed method from hho gas to water injection?

That is an good question but have an simple answer..

Meyer during experiments found that this mixture (new fuel source) is very reactive if used on pressure with HHO because can burn spontaneously without an activation energy (ignition), for safety reason have changed method using pre-treatment water (reactive water) but at 1983 Meyer don't have the right technology for create an working electric discharge injector. During my experiments I have found that, processed air put inside to an plastic tank (that support 5bar) to 1 bar of pressure and very little amount of HHO he blew the cap of the plastic tank.(See my photo attached)

The special design of my Gas Processor associated to the right diagram for brown gas generation create an safety device, these needed informations are contained inside Gas Processor Kit.

My Gas Processor is working and complicate device that contain high cost components and isn't magic as some peoples think.

Some peoples think that gas processor is magic but what appear really?

Gas Processor use ONLY air creating positive ions. Both, oxygen and nitrogen, are processed into positive ions!
As you know Brown gas or just HHO is very reactive gas, when Brown gas is injected to pressure from an calibrated hole inside gas processor the mixture (processed air/HHO) is mixed togheter forming immediately an new fuel source and you can use that with an burner or with your engine. In fact brown gas "block" positive ions process.

What appear in fact?

Gas Processor released positive ions, when brown gas burn, previoulsy mixed togheter with processed air, releasing negative ions (free electrons) and these interacts with positive ions of air releasing the thermal energy asked from Stan Meyer.

After these explainations probably your mind can focalized that.. at today our engine use NORMAL AIR and FUEL, tomorrow you can use REACTIVE AIR and HHO (lower amount) reaching the same result.

What is the best way to hide something? Always have that thing in front of our eyes, in this case around to us....

[vrand]

What is the best way to hide something? Always have that thing in front of our eyes, in this case around to us....

Hi Tut,
Thank you for describing your technology.

Any estimate on when your unit will be available for purchase? Sometime this month? Cost estimate?

Cheers Mike

[tutanka]

Hi Tut,
Thank you for describing your technology.

Any estimate on when your unit will be available for purchase? Sometime this month? Cost estimate?

Cheers Mike

Next monday on web site http://www.air4gas.com you can found all informations