Fuel-less combustion of AIR !!!

[charly2]

Hi tutanka, nice and compact unit you have built.
Do you have news?, price?

[vrand]

Next monday on web site http://www.air4gas.com you can found all informations

Hi Tut,
Any update on when your device will for sale?
I checked your website and have not seen any new info. these past Mondays.
Also, will you post a video of running an engine on your device?
Cheers Mike

[gsmsslsb]

Hi Tut,
Any update on when your device will for sale?
I checked your website and have not seen any new info. these past Mondays.
Also, will you post a video of running an engine on your device?
Cheers Mike

I tried too
I can only get one page.
OK graphics but no info at all.
However from what i can gather it may have some similarities to William R Lyne's Atomic hydrogen furnace.
Discussed here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-cop-21-a.html

[tutanka]

Hi Tut,
Any update on when your device will for sale?
I checked your website and have not seen any new info. these past Mondays.
Also, will you post a video of running an engine on your device?
Cheers Mike

Im sorry for delay but I'm working hard for finish my water stone stove and I don't have some time for update the web site.. the gas processor is ready to go (I attach photo of gas processor mounted inside stove).
Probably to your eyes this gas processor appear like an fake but isn't! That is very special technology with compact design; the new gas processor use strong magnets and catalyst like platinum inside obtaining same result of meyer gas processor. No electric power is needed. Please wait an little time. Regards

[Faisca]

In some web sites you can found these words:

"Since Meyer says he used the 4th energy level or lower lets look at that reaction.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol.
Can you see the reaction now? In the reaction just shown the energy to break the bonds of the water molecule has been subtracted(1836kJ/mol) from the energy content of the ionized oxygen atoms. These are energy content calculations, and it is good to note that gasoline has an energy content of only 495kJ/mol. This is how Stanley Meyer was able to run an 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.. The energy content is far greater than that of gasoline, more than 13 times greater."

Only in part that explaination is correct because you need to transform also nitrogen into positive ions. Gas Processor is the device that create positive ions from air trought an "soft ionization" as I call. There are two methods for reach the soft ionization , Meyer have used electromagnetic method (not HV) and photons (for nitrogen ionization), my device use JUST natural and precious components and have an life of 400 years. In all case EEC (Electron Extraction Circuit) is needed for reach the soft ionization.

Some peoples can ask: why Meyer have changed method from hho gas to water injection?

That is an good question but have an simple answer..

Meyer during experiments found that this mixture (new fuel source) is very reactive if used on pressure with HHO because can burn spontaneously without an activation energy (ignition), for safety reason have changed method using pre-treatment water (reactive water) but at 1983 Meyer don't have the right technology for create an working electric discharge injector. During my experiments I have found that, processed air put inside to an plastic tank (that support 5bar) to 1 bar of pressure and very little amount of HHO he blew the cap of the plastic tank.(See my photo attached)

The special design of my Gas Processor associated to the right diagram for brown gas generation create an safety device, these needed informations are contained inside Gas Processor Kit.

My Gas Processor is working and complicate device that contain high cost components and isn't magic as some peoples think.

Some peoples think that gas processor is magic but what appear really?

Gas Processor use ONLY air creating positive ions. Both, oxygen and nitrogen, are processed into positive ions!
As you know Brown gas or just HHO is very reactive gas, when Brown gas is injected to pressure from an calibrated hole inside gas processor the mixture (processed air/HHO) is mixed togheter forming immediately an new fuel source and you can use that with an burner or with your engine. In fact brown gas "block" positive ions process.

What appear in fact?

Gas Processor released positive ions, when brown gas burn, previoulsy mixed togheter with processed air, releasing negative ions (free electrons) and these interacts with positive ions of air releasing the thermal energy asked from Stan Meyer.

After these explainations probably your mind can focalized that.. at today our engine use NORMAL AIR and FUEL, tomorrow you can use REACTIVE AIR and HHO (lower amount) reaching the same result.

What is the best way to hide something? Always have that thing in front of our eyes, in this case around to us....

Very cool Tutanka, I am following, but I think I lost a part: HHO 7LPM ... which cost volt / amp?
Here speaks as if the question of electrolysis was already solved in efficiency. I understand that HHO is just a catalyst of the process. But how are producing HHO? is tap water, or electrolyte? pulses or direct current?
Thank you for your attention.

[tutanka]

Very cool Tutanka, I am following, but I think I lost a part: HHO 7LPM ... which cost volt / amp?
Here speaks as if the question of electrolysis was already solved in efficiency. I understand that HHO is just a catalyst of the process. But how are producing HHO? is tap water, or electrolyte? pulses or direct current?
Thank you for your attention.

Sorry but you no need 7LPM probabbly you refer to the meyer docs. You can buy or use an normal electrolizer that produce 1-1,5LPM of watergas.

[vrand]

Im sorry for delay but I'm working hard for finish my water stone stove and I don't have some time for update the web site.. the gas processor is ready to go (I attach photo of gas processor mounted inside stove).
Probably to your eyes this gas processor appear like an fake but isn't! That is very special technology with compact design; the new gas processor use strong magnets and catalyst like platinum inside obtaining same result of meyer gas processor. No electric power is needed. Please wait an little time. Regards

Hi Tut,
Thank you for the update, the photo looks good,
Also looking forward to seeing it in operation.

Keep up the good work!
Cheers Mike

[tutanka]

Hi Tut,
Thank you for the update, the photo looks good,
Also looking forward to seeing it in operation.

Keep up the good work!
Cheers Mike

My gas processor is based on autothermia of Prof. Andreev.. here attach informations about that new technology, as you can see is very similar to Stan Meyer water systems.. too similar

[gsmsslsb]

Autothermia article very interesting.
It sounds very similar to joseph cater running engine on moist air in his books.

[natone_m]

Catalyst?

What is the catalyst that he refers to. He says that the easiest way to get a car running is to coat thet engine cylinders with a catalyst. Is this the same catalyst that is used in the air-fuel mixing chamber?

[tutanka]

What is the catalyst that he refers to. He says that the easiest way to get a car running is to coat thet engine cylinders with a catalyst. Is this the same catalyst that is used in the air-fuel mixing chamber?

Th catalyst used is Platinum

[natone_m]

???

I don't understand the importantce of the catalyst. What does it do? The air comes in, is ionized by the magnetic field (knocks off electrons) and is exposed to a fuel source that is an electron source... right?

[tutanka]

I don't understand the importantce of the catalyst. What does it do? The air comes in, is ionized by the magnetic field (knocks off electrons) and is exposed to a fuel source that is an electron source... right?

Catalyst is needed for ionize nitrogen.. nitrogen in fact is the screen of oxygen, protect oxygen.. you need to ionize not only oxygen but also nitrogen if you want that reaction appear and only magnets don't are sufficient for that.. regards

[tutanka]

Meyer Gas Processor

That new gas processor is very similar in functionality to that of Meyer, Meyer use medium voltage amplitude NOT HIGH VOLTAGE for not obtain ozone and NOx and positioned that field in IN and OUT, in middle him use photons NOT UV for ionize nitrogen because oxygen is been ionized. In new gas processor appear the same but medium voltage is substitute from permanent strong magnets in IN and OUT et catalyst , in the middle, ionizes the nitrogen. I call that process "soft ionization" because the energy to the molecules is released gradually and far enough to get the reaction. If you want replicated the gas processor of Meyer isn't difficult, for energize the coils IN/OUT you can use variac to tune these, as photons you must use 391,4nm, for that you can find simply power leds on that wavelenght. The only difference from new and old gas processor is that you do not need to apply an electric energy and the EEC is just the platinum catalyst connected to the ground. Regards

[tutanka]

anyone who knows how to do this please personal message me asap

Depend what gas processor you want.. old or new?