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  • Hoax.

    Lol this one is a true "April Fools" joke, which was supposed to be on us i guess

    This site below is perpetrating a hoax, by showing a fake movie poster claiming to be an Oliver Stone movie based on the life of Stanley Meyer.

    Convert Your Car to Run on Water?

    Here is the fake movie poster:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1238620272

    This site has no provenance at all, and the article is without any author name. It is apparently a blog-creation site anyone can sign up for and setup to look like a real site. I couldn't find any other web locations for that movie poster. But apparently if it can be believed at all, that blog site has been there since 2006 ... Several of the other articles i saw there (always without authors), are questionable in nature and accuracy: They could be subtle attempts at dis'ing the subjects they supposedly are "for".

    At the bottom, the article asks a "Poll" question, if people who own SUV's, including tradesmen who need them to carry their tools in, should pay higher taxes, then says: "Hell Yes!"... Which of course would instantly anger many (such a tax would never be touted by environmental proponents with half a brain lol); serving to turn peeps off to the concepts talked about there by use of political division and lies. And using the very Liberal Oliver Stone and Tim Robbins in the movie poster was also clever; as they engender much controversy on their own (thus linking the subject of F-E to "liberal" political causes, which is clearly false).

    Even the linked article there by the "Columbus Dispatch", although it appears authentic, is a clever use of more disinfo, as several of the things stated in that news article have some mild negative spin (...the link was supposedly to support the validity of the poster, but is just a news report on Meyer from last year and has nothing about the supposed "movie".)

    Out of all the drawings they could have posted there of Meyer's Patent illustrations, the one that was shown was an interesting choice as well; the most obscure and useless one of the lot .

    I searched & found an Oliver Stone fan site and posted the link there so his people could do something legally to get it off.

    This appears to be a fairly sophisticated attempt at disinformation. The question would be, who did it, and why?
    Last edited by jibbguy; 04-01-2009, 10:56 PM.

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    I think youtube bas been pullin a April 1 gag. Today when I logged on to my account, First thing I see was, all the Headers and captions were upside down. The video previews were right side up. In right side up were the words. "How do you like our new page view" or something. Anyway there was a big button with small lettering that say, switch to original view. I clicked the button and the screen displays normal. But ever time I went on youtube the same thing happens.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfjs6gM8M6Q
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQvf...eature=related

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    • #3
      Well i have some ideas on who did it but of course no proof... Only proof that someone cared enough about this subject that they went to all the bother to spread disinformation on it

      Any ideas, folks? And remember, it's a fact that: "Even paranoids have enemies", hehehe

      1. "C.I.A" (or similar agency). ... To discredit anyone who fell for it, to help dis the subject of Meyer and hydroxy / F-E, put a "chill" on the subject to scare peeps, and to help generally with continued suppression. As paranoid as it may sound, this is not beyond the realm of possibility: Government-sanctioned Intel services have been long suspected of running similar disinfo scams in the political blogging world and the media, and there is some evidence for it there and whistle-blowers have come forward in the past (but no evidence here in this case of course, just speculation).

      2. Energy Cartels .... For the same reasons as above, but with no legal leg to stand on if ever caught... "Patriot Act" doesn't go THAT far yet, lol. And make no mistake: If a corporate entity was found to be doing this, those behind it and their minions who perpetrated it could go to jail... And even worse to them lol, the stock prices of the companies involved could head down the toilet

      3. Auto makers/ auto industry .. Again, similar reasons; but their main goal would be to keep the current status quo going in the manufacturing market as long as possible, just to hold on to their current market positions.

      4. Some "copper-topped" individual person who hates F-E, is very good with "Photoshop", knows professional-quality disinfo techniques, and was highly frustrated from losing debates when they try to argue against it in forums lol (hey, anything's possible).

      5. Some kid out for a laugh... This one would seem unlikely (since most hoaxers are too lazy to go to this much trouble, and to maintain such a site for at least 2 years and writing so many bogus articles there would seem excessive just as a gag).

      6. Someone trying to somehow discredit Oliver Stone or Tim Robbins? .. These guys certainly have enough enemies in the political world, so who knows, although it was more likely just an "added bonus" to use them, lol.

      7. Another perpetrator / reason not yet mentioned... ?

      The thing about these techniques is (assuming it was #1, #2, or #3 behind it); they really can't hide that they did them... And the fact that they did do them at all, helps to show that the things they are attacking are "valid" and a "danger" to their cause...Otherwise why take the risk of exposure?

      In this respect, it is much like the U.S. corporate-owned mainstream media: They can refuse to report on certain stories (such as "Sibel Edmonds".. Google her if you don't know that one yet... And many others). But then, by definition... It becomes IMPOSSIBLE for them to hide the fact that they did suppress them. They must then rely on continued ignorance to keep from being exposed... And that lends for some sleepless nights i bet

      So bringing these things out into the light whenever found, and spreading the news about them widely, is the best answer to them.
      Last edited by jibbguy; 04-02-2009, 07:45 PM.

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