Magnet motor attempted suppression

[Ted Ewert]

There is an article about the attempted suppression of Mylow's "Johnson magnetic motor" replication at PES.
Mylow's lawyer brings MIB guy who takes his motor and papers
Apparently his lawyer showed up with a goon and they took his motor and told him to forget all about it.
What Mylow did right was to squawk about it to Sterling. As soon as the word started getting out about the attempted suppression, the goon brought the motor back!
You can see how somebody who keeps their invention quiet can get picked off rather easily. As long as what we do is open and public, the goons have a much harder time shutting things down.
They will try and intimidate the pants off of anyone who comes up with a self runner, in the hopes it all quietly goes away. The only safety we have is in numbers.
I'm going to email the story of Mylow to everyone on my email list, as well as my representatives in government. The more people who hear about every one of these instances, the better chance we have of suppressing the goons.
The best defense is a good offense, and we should be as offensive as we can be to the goons.

Ted

P.S. If I was Mylow, I'd get a lawyer with a spine (if there is such a thing).

[cody]

I still cant help but remain skeptical about this one. I have not been able to get it to work yet and neither has anyone else. It is possible that the videos are fake, so we must use our brains here. Is he just looking for attention? Why? Mylow says he is working on an instruction manual to build it, I wonder if he will be charging money for it, if you know what i mean. Ill remain skeptical until some one else gets it to work.

[Inquorate]

Replication

I've seen a replication of Mylow's work on youtube. Sorry, didn't keep the link

[cody]

Inquorate,
I have seen several replications on youtube as well, and i have made a replication myself. The point is however, none of these replications work. They go through a couple sets and stop. Thats what you saw right? Didnt see it go all the way around, thats the huge difference here. So why is no one posting videos of their replications going all the way around, because no one has gotten it to work, neither have I. Im telling you guys, I have experimented with this setup myself, and its just not working and neither is anyone elses. Could i have set it up wrong? Yes. Could everyone else have set it up wrong? Yes. Could mylows videos be rigged and fake? Yes. While its important to keep an open mind, its also important not to lose your mind in the process I encourage everyone to make the wheel themselves so we can have an educated conversation about this topic. I really dont like to sound negative but I can not allow definite facts and truth to go unchecked. There is a lot of hype about mylows wheel, mostly all from people who have not built it yet.

[Ted Ewert]

I still cant help but remain skeptical about this one. I have not been able to get it to work yet and neither has anyone else. It is possible that the videos are fake, so we must use our brains here. Is he just looking for attention? Why? Mylow says he is working on an instruction manual to build it, I wonder if he will be charging money for it, if you know what i mean. Ill remain skeptical until some one else gets it to work.

I have a lot of faith in Howard Johnson and think his theories are well founded. There's no reason a motor based on his ideas couldn't work. Nevertheless, it could indeed be a steaming pile, wouldn't be the first time.
Good story though, got me all wound up this morning.

Cheers,

Ted

[Inquorate]

Replication attempts

It is true the replication I saw was only an eighth of a wheel of magnets but it seems plausible that if the wheel was completed with magnets, the principle would still hold. But I do agree that it would be good to see a complete one driving a generator on a glass table.

[Iotayodi]

If you check out his last video you will see what seems to be a coil and not a magnet. It sets back quite a distance. A total change from before. Something is wrong with that picture.

[jibbguy]

Criteria for proper replications would be key here

I think from wading through all the vids and 170 pages and counting of mostly garbage lol, that for a Replication to have a chance of success (assuming the entire thing was not a fraud), it would need to have:

A) A fairly large & heavy rotor disk for flywheel effect (and lol hopefully "F-W" is not the only effect seen ).

B) Rotor mags in the "C" or "channel" shape. According to Howard Johnson's work this "focuses" the flux vortex in a desired way.

C) A Stator Mag also "C" shaped, but it must be as wide as the distance spanned by two adjacent rotor mags plus one "space" (so if the rotor mag was 1 cm in width, with a space of 1 cm between, then the stator should be "4 cm".. the width of 2 mags and 2 spaces). If the effect works at all, this would be needed to get by the "SMOT gate" effect (the "1cm" figures is not recommended, just used to keep the math easy ).

D) The wider distances between the "Groups" of rotor mags may have a large effect as well, relative to the specific width of the Stator mag.

E) There should be a difference in Gauss strength between the rotor mags and stator mag. Neo's would appear to not be the desired type for this design, and if this thing is to be believed at all, it appears a comparatively weak Stator Mag may be needed.

e) Of course, the polarity of the mags would be crucial. Although there has been inexplicably contradicting info on this... It appears the stator mag needs to be magnetized "front to back" (so both open arms of the "C" are "North"). At least that is how MYLOW's original iron mag apparently was (until it reportedly "ran down" and lost Gauss). But MYLOW also said some confusing and conflicting things about this.

So far from what i've seen, none of the replications have all of these criteria yet.

I think it is highly important that this design be replicated and tested in a scientific way... If only to answer some 30-year old mysteries about Howard Johnson's work. People who have a desire to, should not let some nameless person on an internet forum talk them out of it

I would also state, that no one is claiming that the SMOT effect itself is a "fraud"... And no one claims that a rotor with mags on it cannot be made to spin indefinitely using the "hand waving" method (...as long as the hand moves the stator mag in and out to avoid the "sticky spot"). I submit that the "hand wave" technique is solid proof of the possibility and existence of magnet motors. If it can be done that way; it can be done another.

[cody]

jibbguy,
I hope you are not referring to me when you say

"People who have a desire to, should not let some nameless person on an internet forum talk them out of it"

Here is a direct quote from my statements above.

"I encourage everyone to make the wheel themselves so we can have an educated conversation about this topic".

My big issue here is that everyone wants to claim its real. None of these people have built it yet and none of these people have any proof of anything they are talking about, that is not science. Its a purely emotional response to something we all desire to be real. I honestly support and encourage you to go and prove if your criteria will work by building it yourself.

Then i would have someone to talk to about it, because i dont think anyone else on the forum has been playing with the device yet.

[Xenomorph]

I hope some people download Mylows videos, before he or youtube deletes them.
He should sue his own lawyer for betraying him.

[jibbguy]

Nope

@Cody: No i wasn't talking about you m8. But i can point to several posts on that other thread/forum that do just that. Personally, i find it odd that some would do so, but that's just me

This MYLOW thing is about a lot more than what we see on the surface, imo.

I think the only way to defeat the Open Source model from eventually gaining success (short of open totalitarianism, lol); is to get us to defeat ourselves.

[boguslaw]

Well,we need something much simpler. Not everyone have tools to create sophisticated motor , that need a good tools like lathe, drill and experience in working with them. This won't change the world...

[Guest]

Does the guy look like the typical fraud??:..

Well, he spent 30 years on it and he is old and is not particularly good at expressing himself or selling himself btw. I say chances are good his motor works(unless he got senile or something) and the copycats will need more time and instructions to get it right. People(and engineers) usually are no fools and the Johnson engine never was replicated, maybe for a reason.

[cody]

thanks jibbguy!

Boguslaw,
The basic function of what me and others have replicated does not at all require the exact setup of expensive materials. You dont even need horseshoe mags on the rotor to get it to go through a few sets, and the stator mag can be two magnets on a common piece of steal. So far, ive seen it preforming just as well with single magnets on the rotor as horseshoe magnets do. The only thing i would really recomend is some very good bearings because we are dealing with weak magnets here and if you want to see some results, it has to be free to move. I do understand the importance of replicating with the exact materials, but i know for a fact that you can get results with a simple setup. There are people spending lots of money to replicate it exactly and thier setups so far are preforming just as poorly as more simple setups. Here is some of the better ones ive seen.



YouTube - Clanzers Mylow HJ Replication Part3

YouTube - Mylow HJ motor part 2

YouTube - Mylow HJ motor part 3

YouTube - MMylow HJ motor part 4

YouTube - Mylow part5

YouTube - MyLOW's Magnet Wheel Replication 1: Layout and Early Testing

[ashtweth]

Ted thanks for posting this.

After a few years of being involved in talking to open source engineers who have run into this problem we created the best avenue for grant support and security we knew how to .(So far has helped 3 people).
(Please refresh the page) News Letter

Yes even open source energy engineering can get interference if its not set up accordingly. We have witnessed over the years that Open source R and D is one part of the puzzle but to complete all the pieces you need the security also. This is why we said (6 years ago now) that you cannot just be open source but ALSO it is objective to have an R and D center IN THE PUBLIC EYE specifically to create security.
And to conceptualize this, it must be done not just by creating a public land mark - This should be considered done by taking certain demos/devices (like what we are doing this year) to the public to educate them as to WHY the center has/needs to be created and to WHAT goes on there.

And that is R and D for FREE ENERGY(Yup OPEN SOURCE too), security for technology which has political and economic conditions associated with them. We really must create a way through this so all eyes are on them/center and so they will incriminate themselves if they come and interfere with this PUBLIC land mark. (or if they come after any engineers registered with doing this work overseas and watched by the center staff etc zx s Mylow would have been). Then they prove the cases. They can only operate in the shadows don't forget that.

Mylows case is going to help this effort now. So i think it was a good move MIB's. They really screwed up this time. We have Mylow and his wife and sterling as witnesses.The main thing you have from the creation of this center from public demos is half the social reform can be done this way (by the public knowing and watching). The next one is the DEVICE DISCLOSURE. Mean time they will try and stop R and D on these devices, even if its open source (to slow progress), ask Ravi, Engineer in India ask Chad, Ask Brian. Energy Suppression

Even if there is a bunch of engineers set up that do an open source project collectively and the results are coordinated with a min of 5 engineers who all simultaneously have the device done. They can still interfere.They cannot do suppression here Research and Development (R and D center - please always refresh pages at panacea they change almost daily)

This is why we have produced the most demos we can for this PUBLIC task this year. If there is only one advice that people take from Panacea - Please take that one, that's all i(Ash) ask. (R and D center in the public eye specifically for suppressed energy). Orion(Greer), Decker, Bill Alek they all have SOME idea for this, but you need the missing pieces Panacea described to create (to capacity) the security and social reform, not just help grants etc. We can do a lot with the subject matter produced on the panacea site,(so please use it) it can open and awaken people to a lot of pertinent issues, i think when we get the window we must utilize our chance for social reform. Mylow is very brave to do what he did and i support hm 100%. Will drop him a supporting email now. Thanks again Ted for posting.

Ash