Wha is possible, He wants more money????

[patmac]

How can Bill Gates patents a plasma injector is inadmisible, this man works for JP Morgan too....

We need stop them.


Bill Gates Patents Plasma Injector, for Your Car - Tom's Hardware

[jibbguy]

Don't pre-judge this.

I would not be so sure about that. I've spend much time this weekend researching this and it is quite strange, for several reasons. An interesting pattern is emerging here, imo... That could possibly be good news.

> This has gotten very minimal press coverage... There is really only 1 article that all the others link back to.... Checking again this morning, still the same... No mention in the national corporate-owned mainstream media of this. The original art. is in an obscure small blog (although the provenance does check out, its not a fake site anyway lol). Usually, a "celebrity" like Gates will trigger all kinds of automated responses to the news wire orgs whenever something comes up in general... However, not this time: Is this due to suppression, because it mentions a "F-E" magnet powered system? Or is it because they (I.V.) doesn't want any press?

> Understand that I.V (Intellectual Ventures) is the entity really doing this... Not MS . This Group that Bill Gates, Nathan Myhrvold, and several others formed back in 2000 is really quite unique in the electronics/technology industry in their methods and model... They buy patents and inventions, get them re-registered or patented, then form well-funded independent "Start Ups" to realize them (doing the R&D then marketing them). So far, they have been doing software, medical, and some Physics related devices /technologies... This one and the 2 related Patents / Applications appear to be the only "electro-mechanical" ones... Out of several hundred they have submitted for Application or re-register.

> I.V. has been constantly and unfairly attacked several times in the industry rags by what i would call "shills" over the last few years for being "Patent Trolls" ( meaning a company that collects patents just so they can sue over them)... But there is no evidence at all that this is their plan, since they haven't sued anyone, and they do form these start-ups and appear to be legitimately working towards getting the devices R & D'ed and built. It is interesting that they are being constantly attacked with no evidence.

> They also have in-house R&D and claim to be doing their own inventions, too. How much of this is "original" work, or realizing Patents or unpatented ideas they bought, is unknown.

> In the last few months, they have been on a "buying spree" with Nathan Myhrvold (former MS head of research) traveling around to Singapore, China, Korea, India, and other countries buying up patents and making deals with Universities to do research and give them funding in return. Also, they recently acquired the patent portfolio of another Group, which gave them over 100 patents in a fell swoop (which those particular ones appear to be mainly software or personal computer hardware related).

> Myhrvold, and even Gates to a lesser extent, have been giving many interviews in the last year, touting I.V. and their method & model. In the 100,000's of words in these articles, no mention of this device has been made, EVER. There is nothing about on their website. Lol, this made me think the news could have been a hoax at first, but the Patent Application appears genuine (cross checked with different viewers).

Myhrvold has been to Korea: Did they acquire the Shineon Magforce idea??? Or is this related to one of hundreds of other magnetic / pulse motor ideas...? Who knows... I have contacted them for more info and request for interview from someone there but i doubt they will reply with anything useful.

But my point is this: These guys would appear to be now "off the reservation"... Meaning they are NOT working with / for the "status quo" on this. And it may make sense when you understand:

"What can you give the man who has everything?"

Meaning when you are at the top (... Already the most successful technology entrepreneur in History), what is left to achieve? One thing is to work on your legacy, how History will view you... Imagine how alluring it would be to be remembered as: "The man who gave the world free energy".... Lol talk about a vanity gift

But who cares if they can get it done......

This Application needs to be watched carefully: If it is "secretized" within a short time, it will disappear from the Application Viewer pages. One would think, with the army of lawyers I.V. already has (and they are now advertising to hire even more), the endlessly deep pockets of these guys, and their prestige and many connections.. That they would not even bother filing if they did not expect it to fly through. We shall see

But there is definitely more than meets the eye here... What it all means, is yet unclear.

[patmac]

This confuses me, What is to be good person and What is to be bad person

Bill Gates Uses 10,000 Times The Energy Of The Average American, MIT Says - Tom's Hardware

This man uses 10000 times more energy than MIT, is noticeable that uses systems create by JP Morgan and Edison, this people invents the actual word philosophy of life:

1) Time is gold, so you've work 12-14 hours per day if you don't get suffcient money the work 18 hours. Gates works 12 hours? hahahahahahah. But you can destroy and contaminate our planet you have not sufficient time to repair it. Time is gold.

2) 99% sacrifice and 1% ideas?, ok, this gives them right to steal sharp ideas from good people that wants help to others. Then you need only work but like a SLAVE??? 12-18 hours only to survive? to pay doubts? Meanwhile bad people like that, steal ideas making big fortunes.

3) Free Energy is a conspiration, looks MythBusters... Oops there is a short relation between Discovery Channel - > David Zaslav -> NBC - > Microsoft and General Electric - > JP Morgan -> DEVIL?

This very thin relation is strange:
Discovery Appoints New Chief - washingtonpost.com

[amigo]

If you think that this venture, or any other, is NOT working for the status quo you got another thing coming at ya.

Do you honestly believe that Gates, or anyone else, would be permitted to distrub the geo/socio political and economical structure of the World, and live to see the next day?

When you have everything, your next move is always to have more, whatever that is. You play the game and you'll be part of the "club" getting cut of the loot.

So, in this example, the next 30 years will see a move to Hydrogen powered vehicles. We are already seeing hybrid ones but they will phase out in a decade or so and be replaced with pure Hydrogen cells.

The "Industry" has been gearing up for this move since the 70s probably, making sure that when they are ready to switch, everything is in place and there's no interruption in profit flow.

Then you have the silly HHO and accompanying "movements" that have surfaced in the past few years, with seemingly thousands of people working on various "cells" and other similar devices. Why do you all think that is?

I propose that this is not a coincidence and that it is done by the very same "Industry" mentioned above, as a precursor to their transition to Hydrogen. They are preparing general public for it and who better to be used as a vessel but the fringe energy "researchers" who think they are onto something new and radical and will do the PR for free. It's laughable...if it wasn't so sad.

[jibbguy]

evidence of negative bias in the press?

Every time i see a photo of Gates in the press, it is an unflattering pose or expression. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is probably the largest ever of it's kind, and does much good work: But rarely gets any positive press. These, including that article on his energy use, are signs of negative bias by the press (whether this is because of a specific reason, or it's because the press knows people hate him and does it for maximum exposure is yet unknown).

And in America's corporate owned mainstream media.. A good sign of who is "in" the status quo, and who is outside of it, is who gets the positive-spun press and who doesn't. LOL does anyone here believe that G.E.'s, G.M.'s, or Exxon Mobile's top executives (or the international bankers behind them) have "green" carbon footprints?

Now MS does has an interest in the cable news channel "MSNBC", partnering with General Electric who outright-owns the NBC network. But what most don't know is that MS has no editorial input or clout at all there, while G.E. does, and often uses this clout to get certain stories suppressed or "spun". MSNBC has so far made no mention of this device/patent application either; and have never said anything flattering about Gates that i've been able to find. And i've been watching the the U.S. MSM for years (... For evidence to get their owners put behind bars someday hehehe).

Yes, i've been cursing Gate's name too since 1983 for his damned "blue screen wallpaper" .... And for charging us over $100 for a new OS that is basically Class A bug fixes on the last one He is the person we all love to hate lol.

But i also wonder given the same opportunities for decisions that he made over the years, which of us would have done differently, and if they had, would they still be around and still on top of the most innovative industry in history?

But what does all that have to do with this invention?... Unknown. Gates is a "equal partner" with at least 10 other people in Intellectual Ventures. Nathan Myhrvold is the CEO ... And he appears to be a very independent person who devised this business plan and signed-up all the Partners.


What it adds up to is that this could be highly significant.

[patmac]

Bill Gates help to others? : YES

Yes, Gates help to others people but he can obtain profits on long time for examplë:

Here in Colombia he helps to the governement to build computers rooms to schools, this is good buttt. This Computers uses Windows then this children learn to use Windows and this children when grow to adult age and go to the University and graduated use windows, so companies in Colombia invest in TI on Windows systems, because laboral market was defined from root.

This is not gift or help really...

[future pather]

Hard to see how he could profit from the donations he makes to improve word health such as : BBC News | YOUR MONEY | Bill Gates' $5bn donation

(Well I guess you COULD say, the more people living, the more may purchase his good, but imo that's stretching things a bit.)

That article mentions Carnegie, as in Carnegie Hall. Carnegie lived in Pittsburgh and was known to be a very harsh business man during the beginning of his career.

Towards the end he became very philanthropic in real ways. For example, we need no city libraries in Pittsburgh because he donated so many.

Perhaps Gates' life is following a similar pattern. Ruthless in the beginning and giving later on(?)

Jessica

[h20power]

I too have been following this, but only because I wanted to know what they where up too. I know a lot of little turths of Billl Gates, like the very large donation to Africa was to cut the population not to help anyone as it all went to planned parenthood focusing on steralizations.

That why I thank God for what Stanley Meyer did for us all, he got the needed patents so if we stay within 14% of them we can be protected under Stanley Meyer's hard work of patenting everything. But I too notice that the big hho push seem to push down any ideas that come from Boyce, Dr. Dingel, Stanley Meyer, and many others with ideas of energy independence. Albert Bowes water for fuel system also works but can be much improoved apon using Stanley Meyer patents. Just think of it, Dr. Dingel finally got an automotive company to pay him any attention and within the next few weeks he is jailed for life, for 20 years to life at the age of 82 is a life sentence. They want to switch over to hydrgen use but one in which they control and doesn't interupt there profits. The Genepax invetion should have swept the globe by now, but there is no news from them. They know the days of fossile fuel burning are coming to an end, but are not willing to lift there stronge hold of control of the worlds population through the control of all of the energy markets.

The last thing they want is people becoming energy independent even though that makes the nation super strong. Think about it this way, if you wanted to cut the power to large sections of the US how would you go about doing it? Now try and do the same thing when everyone is creating his/her own energy at the source what must you do to accomplish the same mission? Answer is go door to door and cut the power one by one, not something that can be done very easily. Now that is some food for thought


h2opower.

[future pather]

I know a lot of little turths of Billl Gates, like the very large donation to Africa was to cut the population not to help anyone as it all went to planned parenthood focusing on steralizations.

I'm not pro or anti Gates, I really don't know anything from the inside.

But I have a hard time equating Planned Parenthood with sterilization. Usually that organization is about providing options, but I don't know about this particular situation.

Also consider, there is a very real overpopulation problem in many less affluent countries. That would in no way justify imposed sterilization, but it does make a case for providing options to people that they might not otherwise have.


Jessica

[h20power]

I'm not pro or anti Gates, I really don't know anything from the inside.

But I have a hard time equating Planned Parenthood with sterilization. Usually that organization is about providing options, but I don't know about this particular situation.

Also consider, there is a very real overpopulation problem in many less affluent countries. That would in no way justify imposed sterilization, but it does make a case for providing options to people that they might not otherwise have.


Jessica

It is apart of their Eugenics program:
Eugenics - Google Video
Eugenics - Google Video Eugenics - Google Video
It's hard to swallow I know, but it is the truth of what they are doing. I have seen it first hand being praticed. Right now there is so much going on to control the minds of the masses that most have no concept of what is going on around them. Example, global warming. Did you know that all of the planets in our solar system are also heating up? Ask yourself why is that? Look up Edward Bernays, "The Century of the Self, " The Century Of The Self - Part 1 of 4 - By Adam Curtis for once you learn those mind control methods your eyes should open up to what is going on around you. For right now you are wittnessing one of their plans going into effect, and that is these ecconomic problems. What they are trying to do is create the North American Union, doing away with our Constitution, and the medi is controled by them so what you see on the news is more or less just for enterainment purposes with no real news content in it. What does it mean to be a citizen?
medical front: In Lies We Trust
and the list goes on and on.

I find that most people I run into have never read the Consitution or Bill of Rights, and most people don't know the differance between a Democracy and a Republic. Our media sells us Democracy all the time, in movies, and so on. Our founding fathers never put the word Democracy in for a reason, for Democracies don't work. YouTube - Real America 2 0f 4

Your learning has just begun


h2opower.

[patmac]

Yes H2Opower

You're right democracy don't work Latin America is the proof of this, our countries are losers, high social classes differences, poorness, corruption, in-jailed between Lefts & Rights, between Capitalist & Communist when try some new then implement socialist and then seems to be a Feudalism...

You can proved on Mexico, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Guatemala, Haiti, El Salvador, Uruguay and anthers. All this countries shows poor results when seems get better is only one step to fail again, again & again.

Brazil apparently is on the way with good development industrial internal, maybe his system with a Powerful Congress limiting the Presidential power is giving them good results. I admirate the United States system, is a good system the power is perfectly divided between White House and Governors, Majors etc.

If yours North-American people wants modify the system, I think that Parlamentary System like Italy can works. President is eliminated the system is directed by First Minister but strong discussion must be approved by the parlament this avoid and blocks a possible dictatorman.

[h20power]

Yes H2Opower

If yours North-American people wants modify the system, I think that Parlamentary System like Italy can works. President is eliminated the system is directed by First Minister but strong discussion must be approved by the parlament this avoid and blocks a possible dictatorman.

As far as I can tell they are not planning on giving the people anything but fear and more fear. They have set up these prisons all over the country and those prisons are ment for us, "We The People," as we fight back. Even after watching all of the video's of Edward Bernays they sometimes are still able to pull the wool over my eye's though not for a long prieod of time. But none of the propaganda and/or commershales work on me anymore.

One thing I worry about this patent is they might be stepping on the toes of Dr. Lindemann's works, for he is working his butt off on the technology, and they seem to want to just come in and take it and shelve it. I hope they don't try it for their sake .


h2opower.

[aljhoa]

As far as I can tell they are not planning on giving the people anything but fear and more fear. They have set up these prisons all over the country and those prisons are ment for us, "We The People," as we fight back. Even after watching all of the video's of Edward Bernays they sometimes are still able to pull the wool over my eye's though not for a long prieod of time. But none of the propaganda and/or commershales work on me anymore.

One thing I worry about this patent is they might be stepping on the toes of Dr. Lindemann's works, for he is working his butt off on the technology, and they seem to want to just come in and take it and shelve it. I hope they don't try it for their sake .


h2opower.

The Constitutionalized Republic is being slowly reinstated.
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[Aaron]

State Sovereignty

Thanks Aljoha,

Here are both parts 1 and 2 of the Texas bill speech.

YouTube - Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment - Part 1
YouTube - Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment - Part 2

[Mavrick23]

Gates is a wild card

Bill Gates is truely a wild card at this time and I will wait to see what time will tell. He was recently snubbed at a recent meeting of the rich and powerfull and I heard he did not take that well. There is also the anti trust case against MS that probably also had an effect on him. You have to remember that the biggest issue was his OS software was so cheap that other companies could not compete and part of the agreement with the group of state attorney generals was to raise the prices. Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of MS but for reasons within the software not based on competition and what I saw of the anti trust issue was a sham on the parts of the greedy states involved. So with all that has happened in the last years I would not be too quick to try to judge his motives for the future regardless of what one may think of his past.

Michael L