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[sucahyo]

In here, there are people who will abandon doctor order for something that sounds good. There is danger of killing this people family by suggesting that colloid silver can kill virus. I can't imagine what happen if they decide to use silver colloid to try to cure H1N1 or H5N1 virus with silver colloid.

Anyone can guarantee that the swine virus, pig virus, mad cow virus patient would not die the next day after using silver colloid?

Are there proof that silver colloid can cure or protect us from this kind of virus?


I think until there are proof silver colloid can kill virus, pursuing smaller particle size is not worth it.

But if this is not explored yet, I think they should do this experiment right away.

[Aaron]

silver effectiveness

Sucahyo,

There is ample proof of this if you do the research and it goes back a LONG time.

Even good quality elderberry extract will kill virus - Sambucol brand is probably the best and the Israeli virologists already proved that it kills bird flu.

I wouldn't recommend anyone go against their own doctor's orders. I just know what I'm taking and it will consist of silver, elderberry, oregano (oregenol brand) and a few other things.

[Vortex]

I have a question.
In the worst possible case, when people are getting infected by a virus all around you...

Would not any quality silver colloid from any quality silver be better than no silver colloid at all?

Other than turning BLUE, what are the bad effects of using
lower quality silver in case you had NOTHING else.

I do have high quality silver, but say it is lost or stolen..

[mrbreau]

Some videos

Here are some videos to check out.

Dailymotion dot com on how silver colloids works. There are at least three videos here explaining the PROCESS silver colloids uses to kill pathogens.

silver colloid videos on Dailymotion

Bob Beck
This is probably the easiest and cheapest way to make silver colloids.

Link; YouTube - Colloidal Silver: Dr Bob Beck PROTOCOL [ 3 ]

Ozonated water

Besides harboring parasites we also collect toxins. Here is a way to get rid of those toxins.

YouTube - Ozonated Water: Dr Bob Beck PROTOCOL [ 4 ]

FWIW
Warren
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[Aaron]

worst case

I have a question.
In the worst possible case, when people are getting infected by a virus all around you...

Would not any quality silver colloid from any quality silver be better than no silver colloid at all?

Other than turning BLUE, what are the bad effects of using
lower quality silver in case you had NOTHING else.

I do have high quality silver, but say it is lost or stolen..

At minimum, use one that is perfectly clear. Regardless of particle size, at least you can rule out a number of impurities.

[mrbreau]

More interesting videos

These come from John Bedini's icehouse from his work on Royal Rife.

Link; My Work on Rife

If you read the specs for these "killer" waves you'll note they are exactly the same as Bob Beck uses in his blood purifier....or very, very nearly.

Again, FWIW

Warren
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[Vortex]

Liberty Dollar
.999 Pure silver.
Saw about it on this video posted one month ago:
Liberty Dollar makes local currency push in New Hampshire

[Aaron]

silver source

Liberty dollar is a great concept. There are many independent "currencies" sprouting up around the United States.

For pure silver, I think it is cheaper to just get silver coins at a gold/silver/coin shop...not currency of any $ value but just simple bullion...tangible precious metal.

Silver spot right now is about $14 USD per ounce so it will cost $14.50 to $16.00 depending on the markup of the shop you get it at and it will be .999 pure once troy ounce.

Most people use fine silver wire - probably from a jewelry supply or something but I don't see why you can't put a one ounce coin for each electrode.

[mrbreau]

My post #36 is wrong

DRAT!!! I seem to eat more crow on this forum.

I stated, "If you read the specs for these "killer" waves you'll note they are exactly the same as Bob Beck uses in his blood purifier....or very, very nearly. "

Well, that is pure wrong!!!! The Beck device works at one-half earth frequency of 7.83Hz. John's device is set up to run at 4.1MHz!! There is a big, big difference between the two.

Warren
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[Vortex]

DRAT!!! I seem to eat more crow on this forum.

I stated, "If you read the specs for these "killer" waves you'll note they are exactly the same as Bob Beck uses in his blood purifier....or very, very nearly. "

Well, that is pure wrong!!!! The Beck device works at one-half earth frequency of 7.83Hz. John's device is set up to run at 4.1MHz!! There is a big, big difference between the two.

Warren
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That's ok, mrbreau. you're getting info out there.
I have a semi-follow up on Bob Beck's combo device. No diagram, I've seen one before, somewhere on this combo device.

These guys have a ton of stuff they do but don't document much publicly, it seems.
This is just a quick knock off of Beck's combo device and it scopes out as advertised, which is good to know.
Now, if we could find out what diagram they used to build what they show in the video...

Video:
PANDEMIC defense colloidal silver maker and Bob Beck Pulser

description of video:
phone 604 - 512 - 9567
backup 604 - 980 - 7197

Folks from the Vancouver Amatuer Inventors and Gadgeteers show how two Bob Beck devices can be put into a single board, and how it works, with an oscilloscope. Might come in handy should the bird flu H5N1 mutate into a human virus and a pandemic happens. Let's hope not! The Bob Beck Protocol Pulser is a supposed health cure-device, perhaps like Hulda Clark's.

They can be search for by the phase (aka): Vancouver Gadgeteers
This is about as close to a web site the group has that I've found so far:
VANCOUVER GADGETEERS
another link
Health Advances by Vancouver Gadgeteers


Randy

[mrbreau]

That's ok, mrbreau. you're getting info out there.
I have a semi-follow up on Bob Beck's combo device. No diagram, I've seen one before, somewhere on this combo device.
Randy

Randy? If you go back to post ten on this thread you'll see where I posted the schematic for this device as an attachment. It is an easy enough do. If I can do it anyone can.

I don't know what the guys in your video are talking about with the 555 unless it is the real old schematic which was updated in the late `90s, I think, to the LM358.

Here is the schematic again as an attachment.

Warren
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[sucahyo]

Sucahyo,

There is ample proof of this if you do the research and it goes back a LONG time.

Are you aware that virus has only been found in around 1900? There should be no record on silver can kill virus before it.

Virus can not be killed, since it is not a living organism, it is not considered one in high school education here. It do not even have cell. The way virus mutated the cell it's infected is different from how a pathogen bactery infect a healthy cell.

I agree that silver can kill one cell bacteries but I never read a book that explain experiment with virus. Silver can kill pathogen bactery do not means it can kill virus. Even current drug for flues do not meant to kill the flues virus but to increase stamina so our body can stop the virus from infecting.


So a link for experiment result or an illustration of how colloid silver disable virus would help a lot. It should be different from the way silver kills pathogen bactery. I think it would also show at least an electron microscope picture too, otherwise how do we now that the virus is gone/destroyed and not just sleep?

About size, do 1 gram of silver can be converted to 1 ml of colloid silver? since if we mix it to 1000ml of water, can 1/1000 silver can kill 1000 virus in 1000ml of water if the virus need to be touched by the silver?

Would not any quality silver colloid from any quality silver be better than no silver colloid at all?

Other than turning BLUE, what are the bad effects of using
lower quality silver in case you had NOTHING else.

I rather worried with the water that contain the silver. Healthy water supposed to be fresh and sweet, but from some post about colloid silver here it is not the case, not fresh not sweet. I conclude that colloid silver has good anti bacterial factor but the water contain killing energy. It is not something I would give to dying man. Unless anyone here has colloid silver that taste fresh and sweet?

[amigo]

sucahyo,

Unfortunately we do not have the resources or the necessary equipment to perform any tests beyond what we have already done. Those who do aren't doing it because it is not in their interest.

But it still stays on the record that this kind of Silver does something good to people as so many have atested to all over the Web. Whether it is a placebo effect or not should not really matter at the end, if the result is well being.

I am of an opinion that it is not a placebo effect but have no sufficient data to factually substantiate it. Even the medical scientistist do not exactly know what is going on in the body at any moment, as the monitoring technology of that kind is presently beyond our grasp.

So I guess we'll just have to do with what we have right now and continue to study and learn new things.

[Aaron]

silver method of action

Sucahyo,

I believe a virus is a living organism that lives when it has a host cell. It certainly isn't dead and this could be a matter of semantics. I believe there is an obvious intelligence that these creatures have and are very much alive. I believe they take guidance from morphic fields as any "living" entity does from the cellular level on up.

The healthy properties of silver go back thousands of years and many cultures, no pun intended, were very well aware of microscopic critters. Some cultures sweep the floor before walking on it so they don't kill them. How do they know they exist? Maybe enlightened beings from another world that helped guide our kind over the years educated us about sanitation or something. Point is, there has been many beliefs in microscopic things that go way, way back.

Silverware was silver for a reason and had been associated with good health. Those associations are usually possible through long term observation. Anytime we use real silverware and put them in our mouth, we are ingesting silver.

There are stories of farmers that would put silver coins in milk jugs to preserve the freshness.

Here is how silver kills virus and bacteria as a matter of 100% scientific fact. The silver destroys the enzymes that the virus and bacteria need for respiration. So the silver essentially suffocates them.

This is why silver can and does destroy virus and bacteria...AND...one of the greatest benefits of this method is that virus and bacteria cannot develop any resistance against it.

[Vortex]

sucahyo's requested research

sucahyo said: "Healthy water supposed to be fresh and sweet".
If you put lemon juice in the water, it is no longer sweet..
Does it mean it is no longer healthy?
You can not equate taste to healthy.
Home pesticides smell sweet do they not?
Many extremely toxic things are tasteless or have no smell..
You must examine the facts and not use your taste buds.

link below covers the many uses of silver and research studies.
Silver Research
Silver-based water purification units for the home have been in use in Europe for more than 50 years.

It prevents the growth of a wide array of bacteria, as well as yeast, on the damaged skin. Silver sulfadiazine is typically delivered in a 1% solution suspended in a water-soluble base.
Silver sulfadiazine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A Silver Coating in the Fight Against Microbes: Scientific American
Scienceline » A Silver Coating in the Fight Against Microbes

Silver as a Residual Disinfectant To Prevent Biofilm Formation in Water Distribution Systems -- Silvestry-Rodriguez et al. 74 (5): 1639 -- Applied and Environmental Microbiology

Enjoy
Randy