Bloch wall shifting generator

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Bruce thanks for the update, nice work so far. I stalled a bit here, caught an illness but starting to feel better. Anyway, just before i got sick, i was testing it out with just the 2 tin plates on 1 side of the record and got an led to blink dimly off 1 diode from the series coils with bolt cores. Not much, but a start i guess. till next time.
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Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Bruce or anyone, It seems Smith says neodymium powder would work well sprinkled at spots onto the rotor, my question is, can i take a couple of neo magnets i have and pulverize them into powder. Will this be the equivalent of what he's speaking of or will it have to be heated to demagnetize it. A little arduous task, but just wondering. Anyway, it seems that mu-metal and terfenol-D has very high electrical resistance, i'm assuming it's similar to nichrome wire in that respect. Since I'm feeling better, I'm going to put more tin/steel plates on this rotor. Though i did hook a camera flash cap up to the fwb and i got 3 volts fairly quickly and if i added another 2 on other side that should double to 6 volts and if i had 8 tin/steel plates per side that would be 48 volts roughly. If I can't get this to work as Smith claims, then otherwise, this would make a heck of a cap pulser add on for a bedini motor to charge batteries and maybe keep it running longer and longer, you get the idea. Let me know what you think.
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Tyson

[Brownsville]

bismuth

Hi all,

I found a source for bismuth powder -"ESPI Metals" <sales@espimetals.com>

It is Bismuth Powder -200 Mesh, 2N5 Purity:

5 Grams @ $0.32/gram = $1.60

Availability: Stock Domestic Handling Fee: $8.00

I am pretty sure that Don used this or mentioned it somewhere. I also saw a video that showed this type of set up based on Don's using a stainless steel rotor with notches cut in it. I have been trying to find it again but having no luck. I am pretty sure it was linked through either this forum or the overunity forum and was in one of the discussions of Don's work.

I am going to order some 1" X 3" neo cylinders and give this a go.

Good luck on this project.

Brownsville

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Brownsville, thanks for the information. A web site says this about bismuth

Bismuth will behave similarly with another of its major metals, copper.

and i recall in a video on metcafe, that they used a diamagnetic material. Thing is with copper, aluminum or bismuth, maybe bismuth will create a much greater lentz effect and aluminum or copper would to a lesser extent. I wonder how this would effect the rotor as far as causing drag. I think bismuth might have a major effect in generating voltage/current. Thanks, let me know how it goes for you. In the meantime maybe ill see what effects aluminum has.
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Tyson

[Brownsville]

cable

Hi SkyWatcher,

I forgot to mention that I picked up some #4 welding cable from a local shop. It has 538 strands of 30 awg wires in it, similar to what Don uses and most welding supply places carry it. It was a little more expensive than on the web, but there was no waiting and no shipping and handling charges so about the same price.

There was some #6 that had 640 + / - strands of 34 awg on the web that was interesting also - welding cable.

I will do some more research regarding the bismuth. I thought I read that Smith had used this on his recored album or stated that this would work.

Good luck and great build!

Brownsville

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Brownsville, yes the thick gauge wire would be closer to what he did i assume. resonance is suppose to be in operation in the device so that means we could have all the right parts and until we hit resonance will never see anything spectacular. I tried aluminum and no results. As i was making some tests, i noticed something and it got me thinking. With my neo magnet stack at the back of a steel bolt, and if i bring another magnet stack close to other end, repulsion oriented, of the steel bolt it repels a little bit then attracts to the bolt quickly. Now if we rotated this steel bolt, with magnet stack attached, past a coil/core, it seems that up to a certain threshold that lentz effect would be much less of a nuisance since any lentz magnetic field emitted from the coil/core as the magnetized steel bolt approaches would be absorbed by the bolt since it is not completely saturated and would attract it in and give a much more efficient generator. I'd like to hear your thoughts about this or anyone reading.
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Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi again, one more thought to add based on my last post. I did build a generator in the past where i used bolt cores and when i turned the coil/core around so that the thread part of the bolt was exposed to the rotating neo magnets, this meant that there was at least 2 inches of steel bolt to absorb some of the lentz field generated and the input amp meters were showing that when the coils were loaded and even down to shorted that no added input current was used when this was done. That is just a little experimental evidence possibly for what i am talking about.
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Tyson

[Brownsville]

bolt core generator

Hi SkyWatcher,

I saw your pics of the bolt core generator. I was wondering if adding some soft iron rod at each end of the magnets would help. I was thinking of 1" X 1 1/2" rod at each end of the 1" X 3" magnets.

Bruce, what size are the magnets you are using that fit inside the 1" pvc?

Regarding the grinding up of magnets, I would think it would work. The site for the bismuth also has powdered neodymium, foil and sheet.

Brownsville

[Bruce_TPU]

Hi SkyWatcher,

I saw your pics of the bolt core generator. I was wondering if adding some soft iron rod at each end of the magnets would help. I was thinking of 1" X 1 1/2" rod at each end of the 1" X 3" magnets.

Bruce, what size are the magnets you are using that fit inside the 1" pvc?

Regarding the grinding up of magnets, I would think it would work. The site for the bismuth also has powdered neodymium, foil and sheet.

Brownsville

I am using 1" magnets inside of the 1" pvc Cap. They fit perfectly.

I think the use of cores may indeed be needed. I am changing my thought on this as I was starting to experiment. I also need different coils, with thinner awg wire, perhaps 20 or 22 awg. But will not wind them until I move and set up my new lab!

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Brownsville, yes that probably would help adding some ferro material to back of magnets. As far as different materials to use for the rotor shield pieces, i just dont see it making a huge difference. What i think might make a big difference would be a solid rotor with slots cut in it. What do you guys think of my idea about mounting neo magnets on a ferromagnetic rotor with the magnets mounted centrally away from the periphery where the coils would be. I have this notion that if enough ferro material is between the magnets and coil that when the lentz field of the coil is generated it has that buffer of ferro material to absorb the flux and create attraction instead of repulsion on approach. Here is a simple cad pic of what i'm getting at. Let me know what you folks think.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3065/hybridgen.jpg

peace love light
Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, ok i have this nagging thought that when i built the other device with the 16 rotor bolts and when i did try the bucking neo magnet configuration that i dont think i ever wired the coils like i have them wired now to repel each other, sounds crazy that i would not have tried that, but i dont think i did and based on the results these little tin plates are showing i think with the bolts the output would increase at least 4 times or more as this newer model shows. My mistake before i think was that when i oriented the magnets with same poles facing rotor that as i said, did not change wiring and got practically nothing which is the same with this model. So i plan on rebuilding that other design, just see if indeed i overlooked that aspect.
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Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I made some quick modifications to the other device and it seems the results with a rotating bolt are different from a smaller gap tin plate setup. With the bolt setup it still generates ok with same neo magnet poles facing rotor as long as coils are wired to repel, however just as before with the old setup with coils wired in series to attract and magnets oriented with opposite poles facing rotor, this one shown in the pic only has 2 bolts on the rotor and with a flick of the shaft with a couple of fingers generates .5 volts off the full wave bridge rectifier and i don't even have the gaps tight. Much better results in my opinion, let me know what you folks think.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/818...ferencegen.jpg
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Tyson

[Brownsville]

Hi SkyWatcher,

I need to do some more research and look at your previous posts on this page again before making comment.

Have you seen this -LENZLESS GENERATOR invented by DAN QUALE -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE9V90d6eNA

This is similar to and perhaps even inspired by Smith, but not what Smith was doing. This is also not the video that I have been looking for that was a Smith design but used a stainless steel rotor similar to an iron cross. It may have been removed but I will keep looking.

I think that Smith's model, having the rotor with a diamagnetic coating on both sides is part of the key. It should reflect the magnetic lines of force back to the magnet until the opening and this makes for a violent reaction in the lines of force, which should induce a large electrical vibration in the coil. Bismuth is a diamagnetic and a coating of this material on both sides of the rotor should reflect the magnetic lines back to the magnet.

Bruce, thanks for the info.

Brownsville

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Brownsville, thanks for the information. If what you say is what was used in Smth's setup then i'm assuming aluminum or copper is not diamagnetic enough to do the job and something like bismuth is needed. Now the neodymium powder, would that be similar since it would take on the same field and reflect it back possibly. At any rate, i made the gap closer on the latest model shown in the pic and can fill a flash cap to 7.5 volts with a quick turn of shaft with fingers and just by pushing the rotor past the coils fairly slowly flashes an led to full brightness. Quale's device is a nice low drag design and i have seen his videos.
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Tyson

[Brownsville]

Hi SkyWatcher,

I just wanted to let you know that I had been watching your other thread "Real Deal" generator and tried that set up. I used a couple of 3/4 X 3/4 diametrically magnetized cylinders. I couldn't get them to act independently since I only had a 4" rotor and they locked in. I used a 5/8" round magnet inside a 3/4"pvc tube and put 175 wraps of 17 awg wire on it. I tested this using one of the 3/4 X 3/4 mags on a drill and got .65 vdc running it through a rectifier. I got this idea from Lidmotor and the JonnyDavro no bearing Bedini motor project that I had built.

I may still try that motor setup with the large welding wire on the drive coil as a pick up. The problem with this setup is the high revs.

I seem to recall that Smith had mentioned or stated that Stainless Steel could or probably would be used since it was cheaper and more readily available.

I wonder if using the powdered neo if there needs to be an orientation of the material so that each side is in repelling mode with the corresponding magnets?

Your last build looks nice. What is the blue rotor made out of?

I did a lot of research on the Adams Motor at one time and it was suggested by a very knowledgeable builder that cement anchor sleeves made the best cores since they were an alloy and slotted, which helped reduce eddy currents. They are readily available at most hardware and home improvement stores. They have a sleeve with a nut and bolt, with just the sleeve being used as a core material. Maybe they would work better than the bolts in your setup.

Brownsville