Free energy generation wiki

[theremart]

Wiki...

What it would be great for is definition of terms.

For example you could have the definition of terms of Tesla, what he meant by what he said. Take the patents and put them to english...

Or have a definition of symbols for Teslas schematics...

[Guest]

Wiki idea

It sounds like a great idea, possibly a diamond in the rough

Since all our opinions differ and we might not all agree on the same 'facts', how about an experimenter's journal/wiki hybrid where each user gets their own page. Information, setups, results, videos and photos can be published with ease and collaboration can be taken to a new level.

I do some php and general web programming and id be glad to help so feel free to contact me.

[jibbguy]

Yes it is a good idea. And i agree that one of the main problems with controversy will NOT be with the "knee-jerk deniers" , or even with legitimate skeptics.. But between outspoken researchers who are dedicated to F-E

For instance: We have seen that if you put 3 Hydroxy researchers in a room and ask them: "How did Stanley Meyer do it?"

... You will get 4 different answers

But this is not insurmountable. There could certainly be multiple explanations listed, each given equal weight, in these situations... People can examine them all, maybe even rate them and / or comment on them. In an interesting way; it could help spur the debates and research that ultimately answer these questions.

And such an independent entity such as this can be of benefit to the whole genre.... There would presumably be no "favorites" played; and no site owners need feel slighted. It will be a "neutral" resource that people could feel proud to contribute to; and use for best effect in their own research.

It is a worthy endeavor: Like the movement to build "Public Libraries" was in the end of the 19th Century... It is a means of raising the bar of public knowledge and education... For these subjects that are deliberately ignored, and even suppressed, by the mainstream scientific community.

Every time we move ahead with more documented research, every new project that is well-done and accurately recorded (whatever the actual result)... Is another move towards ultimate acceptance at large. If we "steal" their favorite complaint and excuse from them... That we are naive and "unscientific"... We open the door to be taken more seriously, and help increase Public Awareness.

[Guest]

Exactly!
Each setup's rating should be entirely merit based

We really need something like this to concisely document all the findings that get lost in the piles of archives over time, only for them to be rediscovered at a later stage.

Imho this will speed up our progress tremendously and encourage more practical experimenting amongst the community.

[Nick]

Hi theremart

Great suggestion! I would find A definition of terms/symbols very helpful. It's something I find difficult when studying F.E. I'm sure others will agree.

We could connect any established terms up to the corresponding Wikipedia page. It would allow us to define a common ground. This would be a very important part of the overall aim!


Hi ParAd0X, jibbguy

Another great idea... Having any number of experimenters with individual project pages could produce huge amounts of constructive, replicable results. The resource would grow and mature with each experimenter into what I would imagine is a solid foundation of understanding.

It sounds like your suggesting a running blog of results (videos, pictures, schematics etc...) with centralised wiki documentation linked in and specific to the experiments? If so, I completely agree.

It may also be a good idea to avoid references to F.E, OU or COP>1 as this just seems to force unnecessary, age old debates with misinformed opinions. If the results suggest COP>1, let the reader decide what that means by browsing impartial Wiki pages. And if the general feel of the site could be something like – “this project aims to find the most efficient way of producing electromechanical energy” instead of “This project aims to produce a COP>1 machine”, we would already have gone a long way to dispel controversy.

As you say, A rating system could be introduced. It would add some interaction and direction based on many differing opinions.

ParAd0X, thank you for your offer! when the idea has matured enough, I would appreciate any help I can get.

Nick

[Guest]

Future Experimenter's Wiki

Yes you've summed it up pretty well!

An experiment blog's format could look similar to the following:
The Asymmetrical Plasma Electrolysis (APE) experiment by JL Naudin

, organised into a content management system similar to that of Wikipedia
Main Page - PESWiki

, creating a scalable experimenters repository.

We then integrate some form of manageable objective documentation (hard work!) into the site creating a one-stop site for any practical researcher. In my opinion this will really separate the talkers from the real experimenters and create a great research environment.

And if the results indicate COP > 1 then skeptics are either going to have to try it for themselves or just deal with it.

[Nick]

Hehe, you're right, its a lot of work and will take a lot of planning!

The Asymmetrical Plasma Electrolysis (APE) experiment by JL Naudin is exactly the type of page needed. The wiki documentation could appear to the right of the experiment content. Known words and symbols in reaserch text could be linked to explanations. If done right, this could turn out to be a very good resource!

My first job is to find a suitable server and have a bit of a play with the technologies involved. I'll keep you informaed as to how it's progressing.

If you'd like to do a little research into all this then I'd appreciate some insight on DB integration. For instance, the researcher specific wiki docs... how best to achive this? How easy can we make it for people to add rich content?

I'm sure your pretty busy with other things like I am, so no worries if you can't find the time. I'll be stretching this project out over a long period. so not to rush anything.

[Guest]

Im going to have some free time on my hands soon, so Ill work on drafting up a site plan and experiment with some avaliable software.

If we modified MediaWiki, a free PHP based wiki package, it could probably easily fulfill our needs and it already has an interactive database backend so nothing too hard to do.

As far as server technology goes it would be preferable to use Linux Apache MYSQL PHP (LAMP), and we should consider the viability of donations to fund the site's running costs.

[h20power]

I have to agree with Dr. Lindemann for on the one thread I made on this forum I tried my best to get people to think for themselves. I also tried to get people motivated to start building their own units with an engineering/builders chalange and I got mostly people just wanting me to show what I was doing so they could copy it without understanding what was put out in thread. Some have started building but the vast majority want to see a video before they will get off their butts and try anything. I even posted a summary of Stanley Meyer's work to make it easy for people to understand the basic concepts but not even that seems to have worked out all the well. I posted a pic of how his injectors break down the water molecule that even a child could understand and even that seems to have failed.

But I don't give up hope that one day people will start building and thinking for themselves and that the gift of energy independance is realized throughout the world. So on that note keep hope alive! For energy independence is the right of everyone on this planet.


h2opower.
P.S. The thread is called, "Stanley Meyer Explained."