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  • Excellent work as per usual GOTO

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    • Einstein was critisized and derided by mainstream scientists until that famous experiment was done to prove gravity bent light. Now his theories are "conventional".

      So I ask you this, hypothetically, what if there is not a conventional explanation? Because it is an effect that has not been explained yet and we need a new principle to do so?

      David

      P.S. I'm not saying this is the case, only inquiring as to if you are open to this possibility.



      Originally posted by poynt99 View Post
      You'll need the ultimate battery-swapper for your next test to prove the energy gain I guess. If that's what you want to do.

      I don't yet understand why the drain would be less while direct to the battery, but I'm sure there is a conventional explanation.

      I'll get back to you. Until then, full ahead

      .99

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      • Hello Luc

        I was wondering if you would the route of doing that 'battery swapper' that .99 recommended. If so, and if the results persist then - in my opinion - you've got conclusive proof of returning energy.

        I wondered if you would also go the route of checking your battery draw down against an equivalent energy from the source as a control. This would be very interesting indeed.

        Luc well done indeed. You've got a knack of making a very clear argument. Can't wait to hear more.

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        • Hi Luc,

          can I say again, brilliant as ever.

          If you look at my circuit of my industrial size set up, I think you will agree it is the same all be it we were using 230v at 50Hz and duty at 30% and we were getting a near 40% reduction in consumption for the equivalent heat up of the water!

          Mike

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          • Updated

            Hi everyone,

            I just deleted test 15 an 16 video as I have found an error in my calculations and only just noticed it now when testing my new meter. It appears that there is a .25 Volts drop at Capacitor No. 2 then what is actually at the batteries and if we do the calculations we will quickly see that it come to the same difference I measured yesterday at 75.877 with cap circuit to 76.12 direct from batteries.

            So I'm sorry to say but I was wrong and need to withdraw my conclusions.

            I will let you know if I find anything more.

            Luc
            Last edited by gotoluc; 08-20-2009, 11:21 PM.

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            • Hi Luc,


              The video link that you posted Does'nt appear to be working for me anyways.Keep up the good work though and Thx for all the previous vids.


              -Gary

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              • Hi all,

                here is the status at this time in a video update.

                Link to Video:YouTube - Effect of Recirculating BEMF to Coil test 15

                Luc

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                • Hi Luc. Re video 15 updated - still enjoy your arguments. As elegant as ever. The fact that there was an error - so what? That's the grinding discipline of experimentalists and it hones character and intellect - never a bad thing. And with the copious supply of both evident in all your work - quite frankly - you're still my role model.

                  EDIT Indeed. I'm more than satisfied that there will be much more en route. Have you tried the resistor coil in series with the power supply and the flyback in parallel? Or would that not move in the general direction of your thesis?

                  2nd edit. I got the message. Can't wait to see the next step.
                  Last edited by witsend; 08-22-2009, 05:41 PM.

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                    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...eyer-true.html

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                    • Hi Luc, were all allowed to make mistakes in the hope we learn from them. Your doing fine work with all your experiments.
                      What I was hoping someone could help explain, even though i have an idea what the reason is, is why a higher ohm or higher gauge coil of wire has trouble being looped back upon itself as in the circuit Luc is showing here, without the input draw increasing. My thought is that it takes longer for the coil to discharge its flyback, therefore when the coil is pulsed again it may be confronting the coils flyback and causing the input to increase. Have you noticed this with higher ohm or higher gauge coils Luc. Thanks.
                      peace love light
                      Tyson

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                      • Hi Tyson,

                        thanks for the encouraging words

                        I have noticed exactly what you have in high resistance (thin wire) coils.

                        If we have a small diameter hose and a larger one side by side and each are 1,000 feet long and both are attached to a valve which has water pressured at 70 pounds, which one of the two hose do you think the water would get to the end first?

                        I think the larger diameter one would win. I don't know if we can apply this analogy directly to our coils but it is an interesting one. So if the thin hose takes more time to fill (coil switch on) it will also takes more time to release its pressure (switch off and diode reversal)

                        I'm no expert! I just experiment and learn from the results and sometimes the hard way

                        I would like to also here about this from the more knowledgeable in this area.

                        Too bad zero resistance supper conductive wire is not available with it I'm quite sure over unity could be proven.

                        Luc

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                        • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                          Hi Luc. Re video 15 updated - still enjoy your arguments. As elegant as ever. The fact that there was an error - so what? That's the grinding discipline of experimentalists and it hones character and intellect - never a bad thing. And with the copious supply of both evident in all your work - quite frankly - you're still my role model.
                          Thanks Rosemary for the encouraging words

                          I'm far from being done with coil experiments ... still so many things to try

                          We will get there in time.

                          Luc

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                          • Hi folks, Hi Luc. It seems that we can recirculate the flyback from a higher ohm, higher gauge coil back through itself. This time I used an air-core coil of 30 gauge wire at 125ohm and using the diode recirculation heating a resistor without input draw increasing while doing so. My thought is that when using a core, it slows down the collapse enough to cause increased draw or something.
                            peace love light
                            Tyson

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                            • Hi Tyson,

                              since the beginning of this topic I've been using only Air Core Coils.

                              Sorry if you missed that.

                              As a matter of fact, using my heavy wire (low resistance 10lbs. coil) I can show a energy consumption drop when I recirculate the flyback with the 22 Ohm resistor heating.

                              You may not notice that with a hi resistance coil however you should notice your coil getting warm.

                              and

                              Luc

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                              • Hi Luc, thanks for info. and yes I also get the slight input reduction and this high resistance coil does heat up slowly. And yes I did notice you have been using air-core coils which I think are superior.

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