Electret experiments

[Bodkins]

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what you lot think about this??

what is the shape of the wave?
Cymatics Video – 5min.com

imhotep fans make a hearable wave,inprint the wax with the shape?
put salt(maybe sugar?) on a sheet of foil, cut out the shape. the size with be the right wave size,

if we use this way of working it will be easy!
think about it if the 90degree LAW is applyed and the correct shape is used.

ps ex,hes looking at you honey

[Bodkins]

YouTube - Electret experiments 1

Now back to work!

[Inquorate]

to clarify current divider

nice work getting the thread back on track bodkins

about a current divider; the resistor has to be in paralell to the electret; if it's in series, it will serve as a voltage divider..

Current divider circuits : DIVIDER CIRCUITS AND KIRCHHOFF'S LAWS

i should have my 555 timer driven flyback transformer up and running by the weekend, and will do a video of that, and more electret experiments when i can


(p.s.) is that a motorbike i saw in the vid? if it's yours, we'll go for a ride together one day..

[ourbobby]

hi ourbobby
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dont get my started
with the internal coils i was understanding that you need pure amps not volt like the electrets?
the electret is a proof of concept that make the prime mover is possible, i think the wax is on the outside of the sphere and in the middle of the spherecoil? i was thinking algea but i dont now if that right now, from my research it looking like some black matter, think about the earth!
I see volts as light energy and amps as dark/shadow
the raindow holds the world together (and you, chakra)

with electrets you need a postive and negative so if you wish to try it you will need a middle wire in the 6mm copper.

anyway this is my electret YouTube - Atenna Electret
YouTube - Electret(thank Branden)

Hi there Bodkins,
Have re read the Davson book several times now. I think that MI5 or was it MI6 then had been talking to cyril? Cyril - lets be nice to this fellow - I think had to rewrite his text and conceal the true nature of the Schappeller device. I notice that amongst the proof reader for this book was a Doctor of Law: either this was a friend or a legal advisor! There are many clues separated by obfuscated language and many pages. By surreptitiously going through and notating the "good" facts, one gets a clearer picture.

Anyway, I have worried over the copper coils and the essence of where the sublimate goes myself. I think that it has to be within the centre of the coils. I also think that the coils were encased in a Bakerlite composition. The centre casing for protection would have been a refractory castable, which is cast wet and does not need to be fired up. To obtain a good refractory surface mix in very fine saw dust. As the Castable heats up the saw dust will burn out and leave a hollow which is good for insulation. The Coils serve three purposes. From what I can see at present. There is IMHO, a range of outer casing that could be used to influence the outcome of the "Quality of Electricity"

The coils have to be counter wound in my opinion - although I am open to suggestion on this. The two alikes have to be in stress to enable the neutral zone. Important is the rotor and the constant offset of the magnetic fields whilst rotating to provide a constant HV DC bias: back to the stator. Also, when thinking of coil winding think of Kinraide Coils.

This way the three rules can easily be met! Although I find it hard to calculate the 7 multiple distance for the feed back from the Rotor to the Stator. Will have to suck it and see on that one!

I think that the special ingredients for the sublimate are, Carnuabra, Ozokerlite(ceresin), perhaps some fine metallic filler - grinding particle- to assist with mobility. Will try some tests before the real thing!

I have ordered some 6metre straight length. of 6.25 copper tube - $29 each delivered here, and have an engineering friend who will help me make up a Dolly for winding the coils. Feeding the sublimate and wire in together is going to be the hard part.

If you have anything to add, I would appreciate the input.

I think Ozokerlite was quarried in Germany before the WW2

Regards
Rob

[Inquorate]

Update

After several days learning about what doesn't work re flyback transformers, I've reverted to trusty old style aka tesla-esque methods.. Simple and effective. Visually pleasing with a xenon flash tube, here's the setup..

YouTube - how to make a wax Electret 101

Love and light

[ourbobby]

After several days learning about what doesn't work re flyback transformers, I've reverted to trusty old style aka tesla-esque methods.. Simple and effective. Visually pleasing with a xenon flash tube, here's the setup..

YouTube - how to make a wax Electret 101

Love and light

Hi Buddy,
From the last video looks like you need a simple pulse circuit for the lopt.

What frequency are you going to run the LOPT at? If its less than 50hz then I shall post an extraordinarily simple circuit for you to drive the LOPT through a cap and relay and 12 volt battery - self oscillating

Regards
Rob

[ourbobby]

Hi Inquorate,
Here is the circuit anyway. I use this set-up all the time for setting up tests on coils. Enjoy as you are a Tesla fan!
A 20uf cap should get you around 50hz for a 20 amp automotive relay. Experiment! Use the primary of the LOPT for the output of the cap. Use the winding of the relay to charge the cap.

Regards again
Rob

[gyula]

Hi Rob,

May I learn what is the title of the book and who wrote it, please?

Thanks, Gyula

[Bodkins]

Hi there Bodkins,
Have re read the Davson book several times now. I think that MI5 or was it MI6 then had been talking to cyril? Cyril - lets be nice to this fellow - I think had to rewrite his text and conceal the true nature of the Schappeller device. I notice that amongst the proof reader for this book was a Doctor of Law: either this was a friend or a legal advisor! There are many clues separated by obfuscated language and many pages. By surreptitiously going through and notating the "good" facts, one gets a clearer picture.

Anyway, I have worried over the copper coils and the essence of where the sublimate goes myself. I think that it has to be within the centre of the coils. I also think that the coils were encased in a Bakerlite composition. The centre casing for protection would have been a refractory castable, which is cast wet and does not need to be fired up. To obtain a good refractory surface mix in very fine saw dust. As the Castable heats up the saw dust will burn out and leave a hollow which is good for insulation. The Coils serve three purposes. From what I can see at present. There is IMHO, a range of outer casing that could be used to influence the outcome of the "Quality of Electricity"

The coils have to be counter wound in my opinion - although I am open to suggestion on this. The two alikes have to be in stress to enable the neutral zone. Important is the rotor and the constant offset of the magnetic fields whilst rotating to provide a constant HV DC bias: back to the stator. Also, when thinking of coil winding think of Kinraide Coils.

This way the three rules can easily be met! Although I find it hard to calculate the 7 multiple distance for the feed back from the Rotor to the Stator. Will have to suck it and see on that one!

I think that the special ingredients for the sublimate are, Carnuabra, Ozokerlite(ceresin), perhaps some fine metallic filler - grinding particle- to assist with mobility. Will try some tests before the real thing!

I have ordered some 6metre straight length. of 6.25 copper tube - $29 each delivered here, and have an engineering friend who will help me make up a Dolly for winding the coils. Feeding the sublimate and wire in together is going to be the hard part.

If you have anything to add, I would appreciate the input.

I think Ozokerlite was quarried in Germany before the WW2

Regards
Rob

Hi Rob
great work on ozokerlite, very interesting that its a nature earth product i live in england and was in northhumberland last month wish i new what i was looking for, you may have something with idea of Kinraide Coils,
I do think the surface of the sphere may need a electret, like the earth has a atmosphere maybe different polarity matched to the coils? and the black stuff being the coal and oil(Ozokerlite?)in the coils.
its on the same way im thinking, coal and oil we are digging out not for the co2 problem but the carbon resistor that its makes.
keeping the stressfields of this planet apart the sun and the core? dupping alot of carbon on the surface every thousand/millions of years?
she maybe trying it again soon.
take care
Bod

[ourbobby]

Hi Rob,

May I learn what is the title of the book and who wrote it, please?

Thanks, Gyula

Here is the link to google archive:-
View DJVU Document

Enjoy

Rob

[ourbobby]

Hi Rob
great work on ozokerlite, very interesting that its a nature earth product i live in england and was in northhumberland last month wish i new what i was looking for, you may have something with idea of Kinraide Coils,
I do think the surface of the sphere may need a electret, like the earth has a atmosphere maybe different polarity matched to the coils? and the black stuff being the coal and oil(Ozokerlite?)in the coils.
its on the same way im thinking, coal and oil we are digging out not for the co2 problem but the carbon resistor that its makes.
keeping the stressfields of this planet apart the sun and the core? dupping alot of carbon on the surface every thousand/millions of years?
she maybe trying it again soon.
take care
Bod

Hi Bodkins,
Personally, I think that the outer shell of the sphere is what he uses for the "Quality of Energy". Reference the experiments by an unnamed professor and the different particle sizes. IMHO, as far as I can see, this is a Red Herring for the production of "Power" electricity. Karl gives it importance for the quality of energy for medical work.

Yes, I thought the Ozokerlite was an interesting discovery. Especially as it is essentially a carbohydrate. CHO. The three elements Karl keeps referring to.
As the neutral zone of the sphere is supposed to be empty , except for the latent ether => Carbon membrane, this might be a way in to the release of C particles into the "Combustion Chamber" so to speak. As the copper tubes, IMHO, are the source of the electrons through irradiation and conductivity, the electret is acting as a dual catalyst. I) is PD the other, 2) is Transpiration.

I also think that the Nazis didn't used the device because of the inherent flaws of the electret material on the day. It is documented that Wax based electrets were used extensively in communications by the military during the WW2. However, due to their poor stability under heat stress and ultimate breakdown, the wax based electrets fell into a sort of disrepute - unreliable. Which, is why, Karl spent so much effort on putting a heat shield into his sphere. He knew the limitation of the electret on the day.

Now, as Karl notes a range of temperatures for the centre of the sphere 50 to 300 degrees C, I am thinking he allowed for a change in frequency across the coils. A higher frequency should offer a lower heat dissipation and a lower frequency a higher heat dissipation. Lower and higher current flows. Also, at higher current flows, it is likely that the wax's would lose their charge - especially at the surface contact with the copper tube. The rotor would offer the opportunity to utilise the change in frequency through the use of higher pulsed voltages; thereby maintaining the power factor equations. Also, indicating that he was familiar with the amplification and irradiation effects of the Kinraide Coil => centripetal force => "Entropy"!

There are a few issues with this device that have to be addressed to make it work continuously and whilst under stress.

I do not doubt that Cyril actually witnessed this device working.

Regards
Rob

[Inquorate]

recommended reading

YouTube - research on epoxy and salt based electrets, and self moving wheels

Article about epoxy and lithium salt electrets, self moving wheels and Electret generators

Love and light

[ourbobby]

Hi Rob

I do think the surface of the sphere may need a electret, like the earth has a atmosphere maybe different polarity matched to the coils? and the black stuff being the coal and oil(Ozokerlite?)in the coils.
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Bod

OK, Two options have sprung to mind. Coal Tar and Pitchblende. If its pitchblende - used to be mined in Germany - we might be buggered. Trying to get that could be tough work.

How did you arrive at Coal and oil? And how did you deduce a dark shadow from the book? I have just been through the book again - speed read - and have not been able to pinpoint your dark hypothesis. Check this link for some interesting info on coal tar + oil and resistivity:-

HOT APPLIED COAL TAR COATINGS - Industrial & Engineering Chemistry (ACS Publications)

Regards
Rob

[Inquorate]

Almost cooked

I reduced the temperature over 4 hours, the amps are now less than 0.05 milliamps at just under 40 degrees.

YouTube - Electret 202 - almost done, about time to wrap it up

Almost time to wrap it up

[Bodkins]

OK, Two options have sprung to mind. Coal Tar and Pitchblende. If its pitchblende - used to be mined in Germany - we might be buggered. Trying to get that could be tough work.

How did you arrive at Coal and oil? And how did you deduce a dark shadow from the book? I have just been through the book again - speed read - and have not been able to pinpoint your dark hypothesis. Check this link for some interesting info on coal tar + oil and resistivity:-

HOT APPLIED COAL TAR COATINGS - Industrial & Engineering Chemistry (ACS Publications)

Regards
Rob

all matter is in a state of change at all time from the light to the dark H to O.
O is living matter like limestone is old life. also zinc if you age it, it will turn into Calcium, The alkaline earth metals are silver colored and this is what the negative of electric IS
burn Magnesium what do you get pure light and light is life!
Magnesium is the 11th most abundant element by mass in the human body; its ions are essential to all living cells, where they play a major role in manipulating important biological polyphosphate compounds like ATP, DNA, and RNA,
the wax we are using is pulling the so called static energy which is us energy out of the atmosphere. static is just HV with no amps
but the body is carbon too, and we need hydrogen energy which i call female because its hot
see how i get to it now?