Electret experiments

[ourbobby]

all matter is in a state of change at all time from the light to the dark H to O.
O is living matter like limestone is old life. also zinc if you age it, it will turn into Calcium, The alkaline earth metals are silver colored and this is what the negative of electric IS
burn Magnesium what do you get pure light and light is life!
Magnesium is the 11th most abundant element by mass in the human body; its ions are essential to all living cells, where they play a major role in manipulating important biological polyphosphate compounds like ATP, DNA, and RNA,
the wax we are using is pulling the so called static energy which is us energy out of the atmosphere. static is just HV with no amps
but the body is carbon too, and we need hydrogen energy which i call female because its hot
see how i get to it now?

Thanks for the insight. I can see that you have spent a lot of time on Schappeller's philosophy of physics. I find his concepts interesting, though, the fact that Cyril has to use Tesla's notion of high frequency pulsing as a counter argument in support of Schappeller is a little disappointing. Where in fact, Tesla was using electrets and cascading corona discharging to obtain his massive power factors at the turn of the century. I do get it with the polarities and H and O. So did Tesla. Schappeller's rotor almost seems to be straight out of a Tesla patent.

Its also possible that Schappeller was influenced by the Gestault - holistic - view of nature and the totality of the environment. Very popular in the nineteen thirties. Not a bad perspective on life either.

Anyway, I have found Schappeller's method of physics engaging.

Off to bed now, regards

Rob

[gyula]

Here is the link to google archive:-
View DJVU Document

Enjoy

Rob

Hi Rob, many thanks!

Gyula

[Inquorate]

How many volts is a 1 cm spark?

That's how many I can get.. Anyhow, another attempt, best setup yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gyzd_-lE0

Love and light

[ourbobby]

the wax we are using is pulling the so called static energy which is us energy out of the atmosphere.

I am looking at changing my position on the importance of an electret in Schappeller's Sphere. There is something curious about the description on pp 216 -217 regarding the sublimate. The obvious assumption seems to be that we fill the copper tube with a sublimate that will replicate the features of the electret, but, provide a different solution that becomes self replicating. Most likely, any assumption based on an electret formulation would be wrong. I originally fell into the trap of assuming that a charged electret would offer a HV static charge up to the polar nodes - maintain the charge for the generation of "glowing magnetism". If one reads carefully the circuit description, you will notice that there is a constant high impedance charge sitting on the coils, so why would one need an electret? Unless it was to maintain a charge on the electret due to the problems associated with heat and the deterioration of the charged electret.

I now have choices about the electret!

Quite possible, his sublimate is radio active. Radium chloride perhaps, or some other matter. Remeber, this stuff was a lot easier to get in those days when no-one understood the effects of radiation poisoning.

Regards
Rob

To Inquorate, the link isn't working for me for your demonstration.

[Inquorate]

The above link;
YouTube - Electret lab notes

And the latest
YouTube - at long last, things went according to plan

If this round of experiments bears no fruit, I think I'll put it to the background for a bit.

Love and light

[Inquorate]

Voltage

Ps about 20kv or 30kv, Jochen's High Voltage Page : Measuring high voltages by spark length

[ourbobby]

Ps about 20kv or 30kv, Jochen's High Voltage Page : Measuring high voltages by spark length

Hi Inquorate,
I got a 40kv probe from Auctalot.com.au Online Auctions. It was a Beckman hv 211. I got it for $35. Made an offer. I seem to remember that there was a couple on the site. "make an offer" workes!!!

Its a 20 meg probe but, will work with a 10meg meter input impedance. Worth looking at if you intend doing lots of HV stuff. With an adapter will work on a Scope too! Rated at 1000:1 attenuation.

Regards
Rob

[ourbobby]

The above link;
YouTube - Electret lab notes


Love and light

Hi there Inquorate,
sorry about not pointing out about some of the Resins out there being wrongly described.( Chalk in electret on video) I did see the chalk ones when looking around which is why I checked with the supplier regarding the gum based resins.

What caps are you using in the circuit?

Regards
Rob

[Inquorate]

Caps

They're 20kv 680pf doorbell caps; found them on ebay

[ourbobby]

They're 20kv 680pf doorbell caps; found them on ebay

Thanks for that. I have been thinking about the settlement of the metal particles in one of your samples. These have been used in many different coil configurations in waxes as a paste. Perhaps, your solution was too hot? I'm waiting for some rosin to arrive and I shall be making a couple of test electrets for my Hubbard coil experiment. I remember eading that his central/primary coil contained a wax solution containing fine metal particles. This would have ulitmately gotten hot and resulted in the particles settling, thus making them less effective.

Maybe, a small percentage of stearic acid ( 1-3% maybe) (available from your local essences an oils shoppe) might thicken up the mixture and keep the metal in a colloidal suspension while "curing". At the present time, a magnetised electret with a simultaneous charge is the only safe way I can see of providing a "live" coil for my Schappeller experiment.

Regards
Rob

[Inquorate]

You could try this

SpringerLink - Journal Article

http://www.springerlink.com/content/...p/fulltext.pdf

[ourbobby]

What charge do you get?

Hi Inquorate,
If you are putting in 20kv to the electret, what charge is the electret showing?

Regards
Rob

[Bodkins]

SpringerLink - Journal Article

http://www.springerlink.com/content/...p/fulltext.pdf

david star in the visuals
Table 1 Properties of Epikote resin 862
and
Table 2 Properties of Heloxy Modifier 67
niceone INQ
also the carbon fibres on the HV create a sucting force as the wax gets harder like a second ground, a center for the two forces trying to find the cardon static membrane.

been thinking and gardening! my potatos got a (potato blightfungus) all the leaves drop off and your yeld is down, so i starting reading up and the best thing for this is copper sulfide and lime sprayed on, at the right time
you see the right time is when the weather drops to below 10 and the humidaty is high, this it the time the single cell fungus just how do we put it,,,
jumps out of nowwhere and starts eating my plants(killing tomates too)

now this is what i see happening,
the copper is the conduct and the lime is the organic, the single cell is atracted to the conducter and dies in a ball of flames because of the light in the lime,

anyway i was reading about copper sulfide and i find this
Covellite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"This indigo blue mineral was the first discovered natural superconductor"
and in my book thats special,with it being indigo blue aswell to me the colour of the Aether or astral and all that goes with it,
or did the single cell form and returned to the Aether(spirit) in the sulfur with the energy from the lime?
sorry ben had no where to write this
X

[Inquorate]

Nowhere to write

Lol, don't mind bodkins. You know I'm pretty lax with thread rules.

@Ourbobby - no idea what kind of charge will develop, I've got my eye out for a fet transistor to build this;

Build this simple "electronic electroscope," a FET electrometer

Any ideas on how to measure the homopolar charge if and when it appears?

Love and light

[morpher44]

measuring homopolar charge

Any ideas on how to measure the homopolar charge if and when it appears?

Do what Ben Franklin did...
Get a bunch of guys to hold the wires for you. :-)

From "Electrical Experiments and Electrocution" by Benjiman Franklin.

"Let the experiments be made...
The knocking down of the six men was performed with two of my large
jarrs not fully charged. I laid his hand on the head of the second;
the second his hand on the head of the third, and so to the last, who
held, in his hand, the chain that was connected with the outside
of the jarrs. When they were thus placed, I applied the other end
of my rod to the prime-conductor, and they all dropt together.
When they got up, they all declared they had not felt any stroke, and
wondered how they came to fall; nor did any of them either hear the
crack, or see the light of it."

Ben was so cool!!!