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  • #46
    Just as a quick note here regarding the Faraday Cage.

    Professor Lewin at MIT carefully tuned his AM radio to a strong nearby station and then carrying the radio he stepped into the Faraday Cage, which looked a lot like a bird cage. The radio lost reception - he stuck it outside the cage, then back in, back and forth, very clear that the cage stopped reception. The whole time during the demonstration he explained in detail by spoken words exactly what was happening. Standing inside the cage he stopped and paused and then said, "I know what you are thinking". He was wearing a wireless microphone, and inside the cage it worked fine. So he explained briefly that it had to do with the amplitude of the wave form and his microphone's waves could fit through the holes in the cage.

    There are transverse waves, longitudinal waves and ... perhaps Scaler Waves. If scaler waves exist, they will pass through matter unfettered. However, if they pass through an EM box (electric field in the horizontal and magnetic field in the vertical or vice versa) then the fields in the box will change relative to the passing wave. The E field can be made from a large capacitor and the M field can be made from a Helmholtz coil. Detectors in the field will monitor the changes that the field experiences. A Scaler wave will effect both in simultaneity and will appear as a compression and decompression along the trajectory path of the wave. Maybe.

    "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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    • #47
      Lewin

      Originally posted by Harvey View Post
      Professor Lewin at MIT carefully tuned his AM radio to a strong nearby station and then carrying the radio he stepped into the Faraday Cage, which looked a lot like a bird cage.
      I've watched many of Lewin's videos but somehow missed this one.
      Thanks for pointing it out. Very cool.

      YouTube - Faraday Cage

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      • #48
        transmission via induction

        Interesting demonstration:

        "Two 120-turn coils are placed facing each other on the lecture table. One coil is connected to radio or other audio source and the other is connected to a speaker. The speaker will play audio from the radio when the coils are aligned."

        http://scripts.mit.edu/~tsg/www/demo...=H%2031&show=0

        Since magnetism - mutual-inductance will be attenuated only
        slightly by aluminum shielding, I would expect this to function
        just fine if the speaker and coil are placed in a Faraday cage.

        You can clearly see the inverse square-law occurring, however, so this is NOT scalar waves.

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        • #49
          I think that the existance of scalar waves has been proven by Eric Dollard. Here's a link to the PESWiki page about him:

          PowerPedia:Eric Dollard - PESWiki

          There are links to his two videos on that page, and they are well worth watching. Even though the video quality is terrible, the information contained in them is terrific.

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          • #50
            proof?

            Originally posted by Shamus View Post
            I think that the existance of scalar waves has been proven by Eric Dollard. ...
            Even though the video quality is terrible, the information contained in them is terrific.
            I've seen these and I agree these are excellent videos.
            These old videos remind me of the DARMA Initiative in the TV series Lost.

            The do many Tesla experiments yes ... but they don't necessarily
            get to the bottom of the scalar wave phenomenon.

            There appear to be very little in the way of actual demonstrations
            of scalar wave phenomenon ... which is surprising.

            Some ideas for scalar wave demos include:

            [] transmission of energy or intelligence THRU Faraday cage (as mentioned
            above)
            [] reception of more power than was transmitted (COP > 1.0)
            Bearden's notion of conservation of energy in 4-space.
            [] creation of interference patterns and there effects on matter
            and or gravity (aka Hutchison effect).
            [] scalar antenna demonstration (assuming you have scalar detector first).
            From
            Scalar field theory (pseudoscience) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            "The goal of a scalar broadcast antenna is to create powerful
            repulsion/attraction between two magnetic fields, to create large
            scalar bubbles/voids. This is done by using a broadcast antenna
            with two opposing electromagnetic coils that effectively cancel
            out as much of each other's magnetic field as possible. An ideal
            scalar broadcast antenna will emit no electromagnetic field (or as
            little as possible), since all power is being focused into the
            repulsion/attraction between the two opposing magnetic fields.
            Normal electromagnetic theory suggests that since such a device
            emits no measurable electromagnetic field, it is useless and will only
            heat up. For a scalar broadcast antenna, any normal RF emission is
            wasted energy."

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            • #51
              Actually, in the second video they show a couple of very good demonstrations of longitudinal wave (scalar) vs. transverse wave effects, and they show circuit diagrams. BTW, I love how Wikipedia labels scalar field theory as "pseudoscience".

              Now I know you can't just run down to your local Fry's and buy a multipactor tube, but still.

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              • #52
                Faraday cage failure

                I can't get even a dual Faraday cage to stop the hertzian waves from penetrating to the Oscilloscope probes.

                Also, the Ren and Inquorate scalar wave hairpin attempt bore little fruit.

                So, some setbacks.. More pondering imminent.
                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                • #53
                  Inq,
                  This is just a suggestion and mightn't work however I remember last year in year 10 we had to do an experiment of our choice. I decided I would experiment what were the best methods for stopping EM to cell phones. A very simple way of blocking it is wrapping the cell phone in Al foil. Perhaps simply wrapping the probes in Al foil will do the job?

                  My 2 cents.

                  PS: I admire you're contributions to this topic
                  - Raui
                  Scribd account; http://www.scribd.com/raui

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                  • #54
                    Faraday cage

                    Ok, so here's where I'm stuck. If one is to make a scalar wave, one must use electrons in a circuit which makes hertzian waves??

                    If one wishes to determine if scalar waves were created, one needs to do two things:

                    1) detect scalar waves

                    2) not detect hertzian waves

                    So far, I can't verify if I've done 1, and I know I'm not doing 2.

                    Perhaps my next step will be lead shielding, or a more exotic detector of scalar waves which simply fails to register RF radiations.

                    I'm thinking lead shielding, unless anyone can imagine up something else??

                    YouTube - Faraday cage fails to screen RF radiations from detection by Oscilloscope probe

                    @raui - my pleasure, and reporting failures as well as successes can possibly help the group; I won't let go of this project until I or someone else achieves a viable & reproducible method of making a detector

                    love and light
                    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                    • #55
                      shielding

                      Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                      I can't get even a dual Faraday cage to stop the hertzian waves from penetrating to the Oscilloscope probes.
                      The scope probes must be shielded as well.

                      Further, it might be true that the scope itself should LIVE in
                      a faraday cage too and be powered by a supply quite
                      separate from your circuit.

                      The common-ground between your circuit and the scope
                      presents a problem-challenge.

                      Companies like Tektronix sell all sorts of wild & crazy & expensive
                      probes for scopes -- operative word here being "expensive".

                      You might be able to "convert" signals to light with opto-electronics,
                      rather inexpensively, and have a fibre cable over to your scope.
                      Let the scope be on the receiving side of the light beam, converting
                      back to voltage. This is probably a cheaper way to go and the
                      oscilloscope can probably live OUTSIDE a faraday cage.
                      Fibre cable may be easier to sheild electro-statically.
                      Last edited by morpher44; 08-25-2009, 10:32 PM.

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                      • #56
                        can you made the audible detector to make sound when there is rf detected?

                        How about putting portable radio inside faraday cage and electrocute it with your HV ?

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                        • #57
                          scalar wave detector article

                          Magnetic Scalar Waves

                          This was an interesting statement from the above article:

                          "I have been watching solar x-ray data and comparing it to gamma ray burst (GRB) data for several years. Not all GRBs can be detected by our satellites, but more often than not, the strong spikes in the solar x-ray data appear hours or days before GRBs arrive. This has proved to be a dilemma for NASA scientists, because the arrival of gravity waves in advance of gamma ray bursts suggest that Einstein's General Relativity theory is not entirely correct. Even worse (for Standard Model physicists), the arrival of gravity waves before the gamma ray photons implies the existence of Aether. There is no other reasonable alternative theory."
                          Last edited by morpher44; 08-26-2009, 03:49 AM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by morpher44 View Post
                            Magnetic Scalar Waves

                            This was an interesting statement from the above article:

                            "I have been watching solar x-ray data and comparing it to gamma ray burst (GRB) data for several years. Not all GRBs can be detected by our satellites, but more often than not, the strong spikes in the solar x-ray data appear hours or days before GRBs arrive. This has proved to be a dilemma for NASA scientists, because the arrival of gravity waves in advance of gamma ray bursts suggest that Einstein's General Relativity theory is not entirely correct. Even worse (for Standard Model physicists), the arrival of gravity waves before the gamma ray photons implies the existence of Aether. There is no other reasonable alternative theory."
                            That there is poetry
                            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                            • #59
                              Aether proved years ago, covered up

                              Here is link I recently found to the fact that Michelson-Morley was flawed and disproved years ago. A better scientist named Miller with better equipment and better experiments proved the existence of the aether.

                              Dayton Miller's Ether-Drift Experiments

                              Good article on the politics of science from the past. You can't believe anything written in textbooks because of hidden agendas.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                                can you made the audible detector to make sound when there is rf detected?

                                How about putting portable radio inside faraday cage and electrocute it with your HV ?
                                I have been thinking of making it indicate audibly when it detects a wave; possibly not use the scope at all..

                                We'll see
                                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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