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    We need go foward, now we have devices able work low consuption and high efficient but OU is complicated yet. In my case for example my earlier solid states devices charges a 1Farad capacitor using only milliamps <50ma. Charging X 3 times faster the cap with the devices than connecting the cap directly. Like Bearden states, we can charge capacitors without entropy. Normally to charge caps we loose half energy that we put on it, but controlling potentials and current we can charge capacitors on >95% efficiency.

    But what about OU?, it's hard get OU charging capacitors without a source OU, obiously if we have a devices COP 1.5 for example and going to charge a capacitor my circuit loose half of the energy and OU walk away, but we charge the cap efficiently we can transform the energy without looses and elevate the voltage (DC - DC converter) and put the energy to the source for example.

    In my case for example only need < 1 Watts continuos to charge the 1 Farad capacitor from 0 volts to 5 volts in 8 seconds. and is possible charge it to 20 volts wasting more time obviously. Energy useable is energy with some potential and some current, is hard make work a device with very low voltage or low current capacity, my circuit works with low voltage or low current so if we would get a power source with 24 volts and low current <50 ma, I would try charge the cap and get high current source.

    Ideas come and go, and we can use a earth battery for example, antenna or well my mind told me what about crystals? Bedini seems use crystals on his devices. If we use crystals on a devices COP 0.8, maybe is easier get OU using crystals, we can use them to feed the devices or to help the battery charge, I've investigating about crystal and here in Colombia near to Bogota seems very easy get Galena stones, this stones seems a lead acid battery plates that explains how Bedini Negative process work, my first question:

    1) Bedini Negative resistance on batteries is possible when battery forms crystals in theirs plates?

    2) Galena stone is >80% NaCl and PbS (Lead sulfurous. Contains cadmium, bismuth, copper and others) is like battery plate, then this rock can works likes negative resistance?

    (This stones is a semiconductor and can replace a diode, was used to radio stantions and receptors)

    3) Stone showed by bedini on EFTV 12 is really Galena stone? Somebody can confirm this?

    On the net I've found a interesting page about battery crystals cells and are really powerfull gives low amperage by high time rates, with many cells we can transfor this energy with devices like joule thief and charge capacitors really fast and get OU transforming energy.

    Marcus Reid -- Crystal battery

    In that pages speaks about Sodiummetasilikat Na2SiO3 to form crystals, is incredible this compuond is some like ALUM (but this is not alkaline?) used by Bedini in his battery reconditionning process, this is called LIQUID GLASS wow like a chip liquid? hhahahah.

    I need hear ideas about this...
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

    Steve Jobs. Apple CEO

  • #2
    Isn't diode, transistor or MOSFET made of crystal? and the first prototype of transistor is two crystal stacked together just like mentioned/showed by Dr Henry Moray and in separate places Dr Robert Adams.

    If the crystal used by Dr Henry Moray can be identified, tapping ether may be easier. some document mention it as:
    Bismuth, ZINC SULFIDE, Pure geranium metal, 99.97% GE, 0.03% ZnS. active bismuth activator,-tribolurninescent zinc.

    Accoding to Aromaz, this is a recipee for tapping energy from radioactive material.

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    • #3
      sucahyo

      My father has studyed his high school in a Catholic Shool managed by Catholic Church Roman in Bogota, there priest teach to build old galena radios (very simple) obviously because this rocks are common there in Bogota montains, this rocks was used like the Diode Detector in moderns radios more info:
      Radio a galena - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

      On that page explains that diode can be replaced by Cat's-whisker detector, this seems built with galena crystal or pirita.

      Bedini show us a rock in his DVD #12, many people in this modern age says energy extracted with this rock is from radio signals but Bedini seems explains better this phenomenom and seems really this stone can extract energy from the vacuum and can works like negative resistor.

      Supressed technology is evident in this times on that High Schools like my father studyed they do not teach nothing about this old and easy to build tech in this times. Wold is harder every day we can see info about Kron for example but only is like a Catalogs Ads for sell this technology don't explains nothing nothing about this tech works and how can be built.

      I want to try some, I've some quartz pulverized and I would like to try use it, with some water and putting two electrodes like copper and graphite. it can be works.
      Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

      Steve Jobs. Apple CEO

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      • #4
        Old Galena diodes have 0,1 volts of voltage drop and some extrange properties like amplification of the signal.

        I believe in the work of Henry Moray. Eternal lanterns must exist.

        Bedini page:

        ETERNAL LANTERNS

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        • #5
          Thanks for the answer patmac . Interesting info on Eternal Lantern darkwizard .

          I forget that crystal may also be rock:
          Directory:Petravoltaic -- Electricity from Rocks - PESWiki
          John Hutchison -- "The Hutchison Effect" -- Antigravity & disruption effects -- articles & movies
          The Hutchison Effect
          Last edited by sucahyo; 08-06-2009, 03:17 AM.

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          • #6
            Piezoelectric Capacitor?

            It may make sense to build a device that is a combination
            Piezoelectric crystal and capacitor ... with plates like a capacitor
            but piezoelectric crystals between the plates.

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            • #7
              sucahyo

              I made a little test with a PCB virgin with a little powered quartz and graphite pencil, Tester read 0.2 volts, Copper PCB like negative electrode and graphite positive.
              Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

              Steve Jobs. Apple CEO

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              • #8
                Originally posted by patmac View Post
                sucahyo

                I made a little test with a PCB virgin with a little powered quartz and graphite pencil, Tester read 0.2 volts, Copper PCB like negative electrode and graphite positive.
                Is that eternal?

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                • #9
                  I'm not sure, but the point is that graphite, cooper is not being oxidaded because theres no electrolyte
                  Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                  Steve Jobs. Apple CEO

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by patmac View Post
                    I'm not sure, but the point is that graphite, cooper is not being oxidaded because theres no electrolyte
                    I see, thanks, seems easy.

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                    • #11
                      I noticed the other Marcus Reid link was no longer available.
                      here is a different link.

                      Marcus Reid -- Crystal battery

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                      • #12
                        If I remember correctly, QUARTZ has the highest Q factor of ANYTHING. This is what ancient technology used. Picture Tesla coil engineering, but with quartz resonators.

                        You know the Gray tube? The Imris's optical electrostatic generator? Hiddink's spherical capacity charger? All variations of the ancient crystal power generation variety. The ark of the covenant too, if the stone tablets were in fact piezoelectric.


                        This is the way scepters, magic wands, crystal balls, etc. worked. VERY VERY SIMPLE TECHNOLOGY which is understood today in science, but not put into practice.

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                        • #13
                          On the topic of crystals

                          I've been thinking an awful lot about crystals, and how to grow them and use them in circuts.

                          I've been thinking about this like crazy, especially since JB released his "rock battery" that he's using for the GT3. Calcite crystals are used in that one.

                          Now, I've been thinking about these crystals so intensely (How they work, what they are, how they "gate" energy out of the VPF), particularly because I recently watched these two EFTV DVD's:
                          EFTV DVD 12
                          - Petrovoltaics might be useful for you .

                          John shows how he mesures ores for their electrical properties. While I'm not familiar with the type of stones you mentioned -- this might help you get some information about what you are looking for when measuring, or modifying stones or crystals.

                          EFTV 18 is transmutation -- It was this video which got me the most interested in crystals. Like it tells you on the "Sales page" of DVD 18 -- hell, I'll quote it

                          In this DVD, following on from the introduction he gave us in the DVD "Petrovoltaics," John Bedini step by step retraces the application of Russell's knowledge to his production of his unique "power crystals." These Tom Bearden refers to as Prigogine crystals, after the late Nobelist physicist Ilya Prigogine, who was comfortable with the concept of extraction of energy from the vacuum.
                          If I understood correctly, these crystals were used to amplify the "energy" input -- gaining extra energy from the vacuum.

                          What does this sound like? A crystal amplifier?

                          I'm personally waiting on my toes, as I hope to be one of the first to watch the "Out of the fire" DVD. John has gone out of his way to leave behind his secrets. I think it's a matter for us to pick up the cookie crumbs.

                          MANUFACTURING AND TESTING A PRIGOGINE CRYSTAL
                          (OUT OF THE FIRE)
                          Dialogues with John Bedini
                          (45 mins.)
                          Does anyone else have any information about crystal amps, or Prigogine Crystals?

                          Excited,

                          ==Romo

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
                            I noticed the other Marcus Reid link was no longer available.
                            here is a different link.

                            Marcus Reid -- Crystal battery
                            Hi mikrovolt,

                            what is the username and password for that link?

                            Thanks,
                            Ovidonster.

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                            • #15
                              From: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-crystals.html

                              Quartz

                              Although quartz is not conductive (meaning it doesn't carry electricity like most metals such as copper), it has certain electrical properties that make it very useful for certain electronics. In particular, it is piezoelectric. "Piezoelectricity" is a word derived from the Greek word "piez" or "piezein", meaning "to press"; Piezoelectric materials are non-conductive materials which generate electricity when you subject them to pressure, and vice-versa: They undergo physical deformation when you run electricity through them. If you compressed a pice of quartz using a pair of pliers or a vise, it would generate a very small electrical charge, and if you connected a piece of quartz to either end of a battery, the crystal would bend or warp slightly. These effects are too small to be visible to the human eye; You won't actually see the crystal bending or shaking, and you won't notice sparks coming from it, but there will be very tiny effects, and these can be detected and used by electronic circuits.
                              Information on electronic quartz crystals

                              Quartz resonators consist of a piece of piezoelectric material precisely dimensioned
                              and orientated with respect to the crystallographic axes. This wafer has one or more
                              pairs of conductive electrodes, formed by vacuum evaporation. When an electric field is
                              applied between the electrodes the piezoelectric effect excites the wafer into mechanical
                              vibration. Many different substances have been investigated as possible resonators, but
                              for many years quartz has been the preferred medium for satisfying the needs for
                              precise frequency generation. Compared to other resonators e.g. LC circuits, mechanical
                              resonators, ceramic resonators and single crystal materials, the quartz resonator has
                              proved to be superior by having a unique combination of properties. The material
                              properties of quartz crystal are both extremely stable and highly repeatable. The
                              acoustic loss or internal fraction of quartz is particularly low, which results in a quartz
                              resonator having an extremely high Q-factor.
                              The intrinsic Q of quartz is 107 at 1 MHz.
                              Mounted resonators typically have Q factors ranging from tens of thousands to several
                              hundred thousands, orders of magnitude better than the best LC circuits. The second key
                              property is its frequency stability with respect to temperature variations....
                              ...Modes of vibration, cuts and
                              frequency ranges
                              The AT-cut resonator uses the thickness shear mode of vibration (fig.3). A standing
                              wave is set up in the crystal blank by the reflection at both major surfaces of traverse
                              waves travelling in the thickness direction. The major mechanical displacement is in the
                              plane of the crystal at right angles to the direction of wave propagation. At resonance
                              an odd number of half wave lengths are contained in the thickness plane of the crystal
                              blank
                              . Therefore the thickness is the primary frequency determining dimension.
                              http://www.scapro.se/text/jauchkristallara.pdf

                              also from tesla-coil-builder.com

                              Quartz Crystals
                              Electron Tubes by John Morecroft, 1933 starting page 334...
                              Fixing Frequency by Piezo-electric Crystal


                              Quartz Crystals



                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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