Marko Rodin

[Cloxxki]

David,
After your question I've been thinking on that. Logic does lend your idea merit, it seems.
By lack of deeper understanding of electrics, I am coming up with a (pretty obvious to do something with) Vortex. An in, through and out shape, all but touches the Rodin Coil. Ideal geometry I suppose would be current and circuit dependent, but any attempt, of this shape is valid, would be "close", especially near the centre.

But as you said, Marko's own insights in this would likely set you on a path closer to the ideal situation, I'd be super interested to hear his take. There may be numerical geometry mirroring the 3-6-9 series, like gear drives.

Now that Jamie has a coil that can hold a spinning magnet levitated, what winding and pulsing might allow for a true thrusting action, as Marko envisons? Just more current? Or taking away some inherent flux balance of the particular setup?

Just a telegraph style summary of Marko's mind falshes on such and related topics should, coming from him, offer merit of more specific explorations by experimenters.

Following this thread with huge interest,

J

[DavidE]

COMMUNICATIONS

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The ultimate application of Rodin coils to the field of antenna design is in the field of the human brain which is, in essence, an antenna. Rodin coils actually pick up and transmit "spirit" – that which animates and is present in all creation.

[spiritualresults]

Jamie,

Thanks for the help,

will rig up my stero & sig gen today after work ( 6 am here now ), 1 small question, do you use any diodes etc to protect the stero/ soundcard from flyback voltage at all?

Do you have any thoughts/comments to my comment about constructing a special "pickup coil" to go in the centre of the Rodin coil, at the moment im using a simple coil from a shaded-pole motor, it seems any coil will do, but my thought was since the Rodin coil achieves its performance simply from its "geometry" which in turn comes directly from the "Math" behind it.....the same should apply to a pickup coil in the middle.... therefore....any thoughts on what the shape / winding should be of an optimum pickup coil?

I don't have any protection for my amplifier as it is already built into it. As far as a pick up coil design, I can't comment on that as I have a friend who shared with me his design in confidence about this and I can't break that trust. One thing I can share is that if you have a bifilar coil the pick up coil will need to be bifilar as well. Of course, you probably already knew that.

Sorry I can't be more help than that.

Jamie

[rave154]

Thanks for all the replies,

Jamie, no probs re:- your friends pickup coil design.

One thing i might ask you though, i already understand a fair chunk of the maths ( from watching all 44 & 20 episodes about 6-7 times each )....and.of course understand how the coil is wound, what im not quite clear on though is how did the coil design come from the maths.....in other words....

what pattern in the math does the design of the coil follow? i already understand that it has two windings and a phantom 3rd winding (for the 3,6,9)...but why divide the circle into 12 sets of 30 degrees for example? why "that" particular shape of spire.....i cant quite "see" where in the math this came from? Hope you can shed some light or point me in a good direction.

David. D

[rave154]

With regard to protecting my stereo from the back-EMF from the coil.....would the attatched circuit with diodes shown do the trick of protecting it?

David. D

[morpher44]

protecting your stereo

With regard to protecting my stereo from the back-EMF from the coil.....would the attatched circuit with diodes shown do the trick of protecting it?
David. D

If you use diodes like that, you'll end up with half-wave pules to the coil.
The protection from back EMF won't be that good because
large voltages can easily cross the diode and the diode
has a breakdown voltage.

I'm no electronics guru ... but perhaps what you could use
are power transistors ... two 2n3055 transistors ... one for each channel.
Have the coils wired one side +12v, the other side to collector.
Let emitter be grounded. You can current limit with a 15ohm as well
if the transistors get too hot.

Feeding in to the base of the transistor would be
the signal from your stereo ... with appropriate valued
pull up and pull down resistors to impedance match
with your stereo.
You can read up on amplifier circuits and get an idea
of how to wire up the transistor.

Let your signal generator feeding the stereo control
the waveform ... let your amplifier reproduce that signal accurately.

[rave154]

Hi all,

i tried rigging up my stereo ( hand-carry ghetto blaster type )....to the coil, first i tried an LED but it only lit at about 80% volume on the stereo so i think it maybe isnt a powerful enough amplifier.

[spiritualresults]

Coil Design and the Math

what pattern in the math does the design of the coil follow? i already understand that it has two windings and a phantom 3rd winding (for the 3,6,9)...but why divide the circle into 12 sets of 30 degrees for example? why "that" particular shape of spire.....i cant quite "see" where in the math this came from? Hope you can shed some light or point me in a good direction.

David. D

Marko came up with the Rodin 36 coil (actually, he didn't come up with that. It was somebody else who told Marko that his enneagram or Fingerprint of God was a coil.) out of ease of building it. He did the 36-150/2 coil out of simplicity because if he drafted a Rodin 360 coil the page would have been all black ink. (The Rodin 36-150/2 coil is the typical Bill Ramsey designed coil. the 150 degrees from spire to spire gives you 12 turns before you get back to the starting point. My 123 degree design, or a Rodin 360-123/2, allows you to go 120 times around the toroid before getting back to the starting point. The degree of offset determines the number of turns.)

As you all may know I spent a week and a half with Marko before, during, and after the energy conference in Albuquerque. I asked him on several occasions about the dimensions or ratios of the three diameters of the toroid. Those three dimensions are the outer diameter, inner diameter, and the poloidal diameter (a section cut through the donut itself). He was not able to give me an answer. My feeling is we should use the Phi ratio to determine that. For example, if we had a 2" inner diameter hole then the poloidal diameter would be 3.2" and the outer diameter would be 5.12" This is just a guess. And these dimensions might not even be equal circles. They could be ellipses of some sort.

I have seen all 44 videos myself and have had many one on ones with Marko as we had over 20 hours in the car sitting next to each other. I haven't really gotten into the math that much as I'm trying to keep my mind out of it!!

Jamie

[rave154]

Hi all,

i perservered with the stereo-amp and finally got a diametrically magentised cylinder magnet to rotate ( mounted on a little DC motor actually acting as a generator )....interesting to move it around as its rotating. As i moved it from the centre ( of the rodin) to the circumference the rotation continued at the same REV's but the vibration i felt while in the centre vanished....(possibilities for mounting lots of rotating NEO's mounted on DC-Gens placed around the circumference of a LARGE rodin here?, with pickup coils mounted over the NEO's too i might add, to catch the rotating field of the NEO).

its a bugger to get started though unlike your spherical neo jamie which seemed to start really easy by dropping it in there.

i tried a little spherical 8mm diameter neo....but i dont think it has enough mass to carry itself around for the next "kick" so to speak, all it did was sort of semi rotate + jump.

Jamie, have you experimented with two different frequencys at all?

I had a little play with this while holding the magnet(mounted on the DC motor )...even a 1Hz difference makes a surprising change in the rotation/vibration(especially near the centre of the Rodin) etc.

one thing, the higher the frequency i used ( both A & B same frequency ).....the harder it was to get the magnet started to rotate.

Ive checked around in the UK for 1 inch sphere NEO's...theres as rare as hens teeth, rang a place i got my others from, hes going to ask the factory if they can make me some as a special order......heres hoping.

One last thought, its seems ( though i could be wrong )...that, if you want a rotating magnet....then its AC into the Rodin (180 degrees out of phase ).........if you want to generate with a coil in the middle of the Rodin coil then its pulsed DC to give results. It 'seems' that what is good for the goose in this case is not good for the gander.

Hope this helps,

David. D

[rave154]

Jamie, i was just about to go to bed, but i just caught your last post, so i will reply,

Ive been looking at the enneagram, and..what stands out for SURE, is that the it is not symmetrical from top to bottom, yes....from side to side...it is......but.not from top-to-bottom.....so your comment about the section of the donut needing to be a sort of elipse....i agree with......and as for Phi....well.....seems nassim has nailed this one already by pulling phi out of the enneagram without it even seeming to be IN there in the first place.

Im thinking of a donut....with a cross section that matches (bases on Phi ) the same proportions that Marko's enneagram has....and wind the wire around that......it would sort of be a regular donut.....with a skinny -saggy bottom..if that makes sense? just like the enneagram sort of "narrows" as you get to the bottom , as opposed to the top where it is short & stubby looking.

One other idea i had, and im just throwing this out just "in case" theres a guy with a CNC milling machine out there somewhwere.....

... based on the fact that all our rodin coils are actually pretty poor approximations to the ACTUAL toirodal map of Markos......couldnt we.......take the ACTUAL toroidal map......feed it into a CNC milling machine......and get it to grind lil channels 1mm wide or so, exactly as per the Rodin map.......then......wind the copper wire around (into the channels )......then you would have a coil that would be pretty close to 99% perfect.

ok, my head hurts, bedtime.

David. D

[Cloxxki]

Thank you Jamie for mentioning a Phi ratio, I didn't dare mention it before in my ramblings. I came up with the same, mostly just from eyeballing the nicest math mapped toroid images. With phi showing up in the enneagram as Nassim Haramein pointed out, it seemed like the most ligical thing to guess for. Might well be worth using, when making a custom toroid anyway.

It seems there will be trade off for each toroid diameter ratio, with some ratios that are the hotspot for a given desired property.

[morpher44]

NIKOLA TESLA'S "EGG OF COLUMBUS" with Rodin coil?

One last thought, its seems ( though i could be wrong )...that, if you want a rotating magnet....then its AC into the Rodin (180 degrees out of phase ).........if you want to generate with a coil in the middle of the Rodin coil then its pulsed DC to give results. It 'seems' that what is good for the goose in this case is not good for the gander.

@Rave154

How about egg shaped magnets?

An interesting demonstration would be to attempt to
re-create Tesla's "Egg of Columbus" using a Rodin coil.

Nikola Tesla's "Egg of Columbus"

[rave154]

Hi All,

I am going to build a Rodin 360 coil as per Jamies,

so, jamie, can you confirm that the wiring diagram you used for your 360 coil in your video is the diagram at the top of the page at...

Buturff 360-123/2 Rodin Coil Winding Series | Energy Research

if it is, then i'll get winding pronto as i think there is a considerable difference between the "standard" Rodin coil ( which i have at the moment )....and the 360 one.

Thanks,

David. D

[rave154]

While im "winding" away the hours

ok ok, that pun was VERY MUCH intended

does a circuit such as the following exist or is possible to construct?

A circuit, controlled by a 555 pulse, where in the normal case this might control the switching of say a mosfet or a transistor to a fixed power supply ( as my & others circuits have done many times ).......but in this case....the following

the first pulse from the 555(or whatever is used )..connects (by a mosfet or whatever )....a voltage of "1" volt to the "Load".......the next pulse connects a voltage of "2" volts to the load, the next pulse connects "4" volts......then "8" volts, then "7" volts then "5" volts......and back to the start of the sequence....

i realise that such a circuit would probbaly have to be controlled at least in some part by software, but imagine what "might" happen....

if we connected one such circuit to winding "A" of the rodin coil......and another such circuit to winding "B" of the Rodin but this one is feeding the sequence backwards....to get the "shear"...and let the 3,6, & 9 take care of itself inbetween the windings.

Thoughts Jamie & others (especially the circuit WizzKids ), ps i am a programmer so the software part would be no problem, its the interface that you guys would have to come up with.

David. D

[morpher44]

digital electronics solve this...

ok ok, that pun was VERY MUCH intended

does a circuit such as the following exist or is possible to construct?

A circuit, controlled by a 555 pulse, where in the normal case this might control the switching of say a mosfet or a transistor to a fixed power supply ( as my & others circuits have done many times ).......but in this case....the following

the first pulse from the 555(or whatever is used )..connects (by a mosfet or whatever )....a voltage of "1" volt to the "Load".......the next pulse connects a voltage of "2" volts to the load, the next pulse connects "4" volts......then "8" volts, then "7" volts then "5" volts......and back to the start of the sequence....

i realise that such a circuit would probbaly have to be controlled at least in some part by software, but imagine what "might" happen....

if we connected one such circuit to winding "A" of the rodin coil......and another such circuit to winding "B" of the Rodin but this one is feeding the sequence backwards....to get the "shear"...and let the 3,6, & 9 take care of itself inbetween the windings.

Thoughts Jamie & others (especially the circuit WizzKids ), ps i am a programmer so the software part would be no problem, its the interface that you guys would have to come up with.

David. D

The 555 timer can serve as a clock to a binary counter.
Output from that counter is some width of bits ... say 4 or 8 bits.
That vector of wires can be wired to a decoder.
The decoder will active a certain line depending upon
the binary pattern on the vector. So for example, when
you have a binary "2", the wire out from the decoder
associated with "2" will be given power, while all others
from the decoder will not.
Next, have a transistor on each of these decoder outputs ...
feeding into their respective base -- with resisters.
Output from each transistor, you can control the "voltage"
via the resisters on the emitter or collector, etc.

There are lots of cool things like this that you
can do with digital electronics ...
So I think what you are after here is a "binary counter"
and a "binary decoder".

PS> I'm a software engineer too ... so if you don't use a counter, but instead have a parallel port,
under software control, hooked up to the decoder... you can control the binary pattern
via software.