Marko Rodin

[rave154]

MARXIST,

1) raising the frequency tends to make the neo vibrate/wobble as opposed to spin, it seems that due to the mass/weight of the neo it cant "react" quick enough to the higher frequencys, 20Hz or so seems to be the right match between frequency & weight.

2) yes, it vibrates/wobbles with the occasional erratic semi-spin.

3) yes, same answer as per 1)

The inability of the neo to "react" to the higher freqencies is what makes me think that we need a pickup coil in the middle of the rodin coil, rather than a magnet, a pickup coil with the wires in the "right places" which would automatically (due to its construction) pickup what the rodin is throwing out.

[Dogood]

Frequency and power

It's my observation that higher frequencies can be applied when the power is increased as well. Same power, higher freq will stop the spinning. Stronger current will keep the neo sphere spinning nicely.
I was thinking at first that the rpm's increased as well but i'm not sure now. The rodin coil acts like a speaker so it might just be the increased sound frequency i was mistaking for rpm's...

[rave154]

Hi all,

using the circuit attached ( i wil explain where i found it if anybody is interested )...

the coil is my rodin coil setup as if it were one big winding with a centre-tap.

the cap is 1000uF, 63V.

the bulb is a 24V, 3 Watt

pulsing the two transistors using my 555 ( which includes an extra output which is inverted ).
The inputs to the two transistors are Q ...and......bar-Q.

i measure 30.1 VDC across the bulb which is FULLY lit, drawing 0.8A from the source (12V ) battery.

i can also get a 240V 20 watt bulb to glow a nice orange drawing 0.75A from the source battery and measuring 38VDC across the bulb.

the transistors get very hot, frequency of pulsing is about 15KHz, not sure about the duty cycle as of yet.

also had my neo 1 inch sphere inside the rodin while doing this, noticed it jumping quite a bit as i turned the pot to certain positions.

Im not sure what ive got here ( if anything ! )

David. D

[Aromaz]

Added perspective

I will probably be shot, cursed or banned, but I feel it is time for me to throw an apple in the medicine here.

First time I learned about the Rodin coil it intrigued me – not because of the interest it generated here; but it is similar to a coil I made and had very interesting smooth effects with. It was pure out of boredom in this past month that I stumbled across Marko Rodin. At first I ignored it because I have done the same numerology in school; we actually infuriated my school teacher with it since numerology was more interesting than maths - and everytime we got him going on numerology; he forget the whole 30 minutes class time about maths!

I always loved numerology and geometry, but I hated algebra (mathematics). The complete method of 124875 – 369 is everyday practiced in Asia. Even majority of Singapore city is build, constructed and designed around the three sets of three numbers: 147-285-369 (extensively used in Feng Shui); so here in Asia it is nothing strange or new. Interesting enough, me and Marko Rodin are of same age and both seems to have a lung problem?

All now waiting for this long delayed new lab building to be finished. Everything is packed else I could have shown photos. This is the last active project I was working and experimenting with.

Back to the Rodin coil;
– Please Marko Rodin and Jamie Buturff – I am not attacking.
I am sharing info with you and make some suggestions. These are my findings and my observations; but my experiments are not completed or even presentable video yet.

Because there are lots of similarities and even on the original numerology there is 90% correspondence. The 10% we differ is the ZERO. The ZERO is there; maybe you just do not see it.

Back to the coil for now:
Why you have some excellent effects, such can be enhanced by interpreting the numerology in a different way. I do not say mine is perfect, and I did not wound the Rodin coil for comparisons – yet.

1) Your coil is resonating; thus it will never create a vortex.
Because you pulsing with AC power through Bridge Rectifier what happen is that you pulse on wire #1 with positive from outside to inside, then you pulse on wire #2 with negative from inside to outside.
Remember the RIGHT HAND rule in conductors?

2) The same right hand rule does have an increased FLUX strength – because the wires next to each other are COUNTER rotating – egg beater style. The FLUX waves does not cancel each other out.

3) You do not need the space between the two sets of wires, placing them right adjacent will increase your flux by xxx%. By having the wires counter rotating and pulsing alternatively you keep excitement going up – I suspect at high frequencies you might reach a melting point, since three neighbouring wires will always be ‘active’ - but only one is carrying a current, the flux field keeps the neihbouring two wires activated.

I would still like this to be measured since each alternating wire will have double effect on the wire between them.

4) The same wire should not be wound together – it should always be #1 - #2 - #1 - #2, as you did in your later coils.

5) The wires should never cross each other, that is something we should work out how to do. The only way we can overcome this in cheap method is by bi-winding a cylinder - DNA linear/spiral style. The other more complicated option is to cut copper strips and lay them on a disk to form the spiral for the vortex.

I will post more exact details when I have my lab and camera’s back up working in about 3 weeks. I have these spiral stips cut by lazer in Bangkok some three months ago, but has not been there to collect yet.

For now back to the numerology and coil winding.
Someone with instruments can try this please – or wait for 3 more weeks till my things are ready again - hopefully.

Toroid – numbers 1 to 8 in equal 60 degree intervals. Bifilar winding then to pins 1 > 4 > 7 >2 > 5 > 8 > 3 > 6 >>> 1….. or out. Each set of winding should be flat, not crossing over another, in the center where you have no option, try to place them so that they are alternating even on layers. You can in fact wind any number of windings, but I would suspect an multiplication of 6 might yield slightly better results.

Pulse wires with alternating current through bridge rectifier; + to one wire, - to other wire, enter same point neighbouring. You will need signal generator and you will need scope to observe peaks.

So where is the 0 and 9? I will explain in a full PDF document later. However in relation to this coil;

*-* 1+1=2+1=3…8+1=9+1=10 – which is 1 PLUS ZERO. But the zero does not represent anything else than nothing. So in the coil 9=1, when winding you can not have a distance between 9 and 1 like you have between any other numbers. 9 occupies the same position as 1. Position #1 is the entry point, and #9 is the exit point, but to complete the geometry they must be in same position. So when you wind a single winding it is IN-147258369-EXIT, or in multiple windings IN-1-4-7-2-5-8-3-6-901-4-7-2-5-8-3-6-901-4,,,,,-9-EXIT. Notice here that there is a piece of conductor between each number, but a NOTHING/ZERO between 9 and 1 when you go around for second set of windings.

*-* That is geometric for the coil winding, but in reality the 9 is right in the center, 1+4+7 = 9, 2+5+8=9, 3+6+0(1)=9, All numbers added together = 9, Center of all three triangles is 9 (Oh yes, you have three triangles) and you also have Nassim Haramein’s tetrahedron with three equal sides; and it ends up as the Star of David.

*-* The ZERO is at the beginning and at the end, it is where nothing becomes something and ends up as nothing. But it is also the whole universe – as the complete shape of the item you have in your hand is one BIG ZERO, not only that but the complete shape of the toroid represents a galaxy, nuclear fusion, cosmic body …

- Yes, Marko Rodin is right, the 9 is the center of all, the spirit. I have a number of other tables to show the same (Which Marko did not present anywhere). But there can not be a center if there is nothing else and all the other numbers does not from a specific pattern around the center. There is only one digit that does have a center – ZERO.

Samarians – Tables of planers, planet-X, Nibiru; most of you will know what I am talking about. It seems never to have occurred to any person that the God was teaching mankind about 10 digits, not 10 planets?

TESLA 369 – I wonder?
- the June 1944 case number 369 that Tesla filed against Marconi.
- “If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe”
HELP - I am trying to find out the date when these words were said – was it before or after the case against Marconi was opened?

John Keely, wrote that the vibrations of "thirds, sixths, and ninths, were extraordinarily powerful."

[jtstatic]

Some good points there Aromaz. Regarding planets etc. I think all the answers are there in the nature / universe in ourselves if we care to take look. It is a learning ground after all for us to develop.. And yes I also like to think that sun is the zero, the ultimate source of all energy.

I'll leave the coil experiments aside though, as at the moment I don't have the knowledge or equipment to build these things. I'm trying to learn and observe though..

Now regarding numerology, you have to remember that especially in western schools it is not really discussed, so you have to excuse the enthusiasm of some (including myself). We are just learning the game and like you said, it can be more fun than math itself. Anyway I always hated numbers before, but I think after rodin I've learned more about numbers and their properties than I ever learned in school for example. Btw, I always liked geometry too, the other stuff was just too much "man made" and complicated

Now regarding asian culture etc. I think there is a good reason you know more about these things as the information is quite old. Oldest traces go back to india where arabs were said to borrow maths & numbers. Now in Vedic math there are different sutras, one of them being reduction to digital roots, something rodin has been teaching us. Yet the information being there for thousands of years most of us needed a white man to tell us this thing existed..

As a pattern recognition tool reduction to digital roots for example is quite valuable.. Why there is no mention anywhere in the maintsream knowledge (unless you do a specific search) that there is pattern in something like fibonacci numbers? Now that I know of it, it seems almost insignificant because it is so apparent, yet there is no mention of it in wikipedia for example.

Like how you get the same 124875 pattern if you start by counting any imaginable two digits together in similar fashion of: a + b + a ...

This also creating the ratio which can be find everywhere in the nature..

Here's some discussion that has been going on about the subject:

The Vortex Maths - Marko Rodin Thread - Page 48 - David Icke's Official Forums

PS. I like how you describe the 3 triangles, it's like putting three forces together to create a fourth unseen force (there are actually 4 sides in a tetrahedron, yet the fourth is created as a byproduct of connecting 3) Something I've been wondering since I read about 3 / 4 forces of nature and 9 / 10 planets in thiaoouba prophecy. In this book it was specifically described as the underlying structure of everything, and the more I look about it it would seem like so..

[Aromaz]

I like how you describe the 3 triangles, it's like putting three forces together to create a fourth unseen force (there are actually 4 sides in a tetrahedron, yet the fourth is created as a byproduct of connecting 3) Something I've been wondering since I read about 3 / 4 forces of nature and 9 / 10 planets in thiaoouba prophecy. In this book it was specifically described as the underlying structure of everything, and the more I look about it it would seem like so..

Thanks, regarding the fourth panel of the tetrahedron: That is where things really gets interesting - and this I never mentioned before; The toroid is a 3-dimentional item, so when we look on paper we only see the two dimentions - 3 points. The fourth point is also there - it is on theother side of the toroid - Like bottom. So what that tells us is the toroid coil should NOT be a cylinderical object - it should be deeper; To say it in other words: The 'thickness' should be the same as the 'wideness' of your coil.

Try and explain this in words when I am rather a video/photo man!

[Cloxxki]

Thanks, regarding the fourth panel of the tetrahedron: That is where things really gets interesting - and this I never mentioned before; The toroid is a 3-dimentional item, so when we look on paper we only see the two dimentions - 3 points. The fourth point is also there - it is on theother side of the toroid - Like bottom. So what that tells us is the toroid coil should NOT be a cylinderical object - it should be deeper; To say it in other words: The 'thickness' should be the same as the 'wideness' of your coil.

Try and explain this in words when I am rather a video/photo man!

Do you mean like 2 or 3 cylindrical toroids stacked together and then morphed in place? Closer to the shape of a jet engine's outer surface?

[jtstatic]

Thanks, regarding the fourth panel of the tetrahedron: That is where things really gets interesting - and this I never mentioned before; The toroid is a 3-dimentional item, so when we look on paper we only see the two dimentions - 3 points. The fourth point is also there - it is on theother side of the toroid - Like bottom. So what that tells us is the toroid coil should NOT be a cylinderical object - it should be deeper; To say it in other words: The 'thickness' should be the same as the 'wideness' of your coil.

Try and explain this in words when I am rather a video/photo man!

I'd like to think the ultimate perfect shape to aim at is a sphere. Although other shapes between could work as well. Ever wonder why we have all this (supposedly faked) material about these spherical objects hovering around our planet?

Anyway that might be a bit difficult to imagine at this point, so maybe something in between?

In thiaoouba prophecy it was claimed it would be actually possible to travel several times speed of light, now of course we can't verify this but think about it. Never mention of worm holes, warp or anything like that, travel to the outer edge of the system and then full speed ahead captain, and even then they have to use "antimatter system" to get rid of the space debris to be safe to travel those speeds...

Ayway getting back from fantasyland (well, sort of), I'd like to think the star tetrahedron is just the dynamics behind it. It's a bit like in Ed Leedskalnin's book describing a ball magnet in comparison to earth.

Check page 4 - 5 in this book for example:

Ed Leedskalnin - Magnetic Current (Illustrated)

We might even drop the word magnet, as it's a bit confusing, we just start to think about metal attracting metal, but it seems to be there's much more..

Anyway, that's just the sum of my "crackpot armchair theorist" ideas at the moment, so treat it as such

[Aromaz]

Do you mean like 2 or 3 cylindrical toroids stacked together and then morphed in place? Closer to the shape of a jet engine's outer surface?

Nope, not cylinderical - though it is one possibility to explore for a different result. Forget what you knew and think about coils. There is a complete new dimention and concept to consider. I will tryt o put some short view in a .pdf and post here.

[Aromaz]

The 369 and Zero

If you are interested in my take on the 369 and 0 phenomenon,
see my posting # 175 on "Gravity - just pure GRAVITY - Page 6"

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post76700

[rave154]

Hi all,

using the circuit below from JL Naudin ( MEG ) which is a TL494CN PWM, i have managed to getit up and running..can adjust the frequency using the 22K pot...i also placed a pot in between pin-4 and ground thinking this would control duty cycle.....however this does not work...

Does anybody know where i have to put the pot in order to control the duty cycle?

Thanks,

David. D

[Jbignes5]

Hmmm

Nice proto!
Seems the wires will JUST clear the top of the pipe when passing through? I compared with your drawing 2 pages back, and it's TIGHT. Might not matter for the function of the thing, though.
Looking forward to more!

Yeah winding it is a real challenge. The materials are great though and mostly rigid. the center circle is actually a 12 cm cd blank that I used el natural. Then sized the whole thing based on the 12 cm. blank to get the other dimentions.
I have to get this thing wired up and start testing it but the challenge is to get a complete wind of the form. The only problem is that the inner diameter is soo small it is a challenge to wind the form.
Anything bigger and it will get easier to wind in a linear way. So this is the most challenging wind that I think I can get lol. Once I get it wound I'll post up a picture to show the final product.

[blackchisel97]

Hi all,

using the circuit below from JL Naudin ( MEG ) which is a TL494CN PWM, i have managed to get it up and running..can adjust the frequency using the 22K pot...i also placed a pot in between pin-4 and ground thinking this would control duty cycle.....however this does not work...

Does anybody know where i have to put the pot in order to control the duty cycle?

Thanks,

David. D

Hi David,

I think duty cycle can be adjusted by adjusting the voltage on the feedback pin(3). This is normally used for voltage regulation in a power supply. If I'm not mistaken, max d.c is 48% but it can be made to work up to 100% -


Vtech

[nvisser]

You can vary the duty cycle by applying from 0 to 3.3v to pin 4.
Use a 820 ohm resistor in series with a 3.6v zener to ground. Then put a 2k pot in parralel with the zener and take its wiper to pin 4. You will be able to adjust the voltage between 0 and 3.6v.
Just search the pdf on this cip. They give you some nice application

[rave154]

Nvisser, thanks, i managed to get it working without a zener until i get one using a pot as you suggested on pin4 taking the VRef from pin 14 and using the pot as a voltage divider.