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  • Hi Rosemary,
    I don't subscribe to any religion although the one Marko follows sure seems to be the one based on the most universal truths, and compassion rather than power and war. The Bahai faith seems very modest in it's self-promotion, but its followers are great people, each and every one of them. Bad people just don't care for their thing, nothing in it for them, it seems.

    Science then.
    I would not disrespect The Rodin Solution team to patent a wiring technique and application, if they found it before the others. They did the greatest amount of work in this field anyway (all Marko's life to begin with). If this new version of Jamie's is THE version as Marko mathemetically envisioned, why would thye not have the right to protect it? Money is not Marko's purpose anyway, at least he seems to express such in the video's. But having someone else run with their inventions, and do all the col research on it while they are stuck broke waiting for other's well-funded Youtube videos, and further patent applications... No, let them patent it so at least they can reserve the first right to further explore this with the team already assembled and working part-time pro-bono on this.
    Marko's books and educational materials need to be printed and distributed. A huge job for a bunch of part-timers.

    Did you researched reverend Buturff's resume? Not someone in desperate need for something to kill his time with, it seems. A multi-telented man with the right skills in the right place at the right time. Seems he questioned the popular winding method of the Rodin coil before he got to work with Marko? I may have the timing wrong. Anyway, I'd rather trust him and Marko himself with such research, let alone subsequent grants, than GM or Exxon.

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    • Rosemary,

      I am going to ( in the absense of my knowledge of being able to work with a 4013 at the moment { but im getting there } ) use my existing opto isolator circuit which i had wired as its input my signal generator going to a 3055 transistor which then will go to the first winding of the Rodin coil, i am going to build another of these and use channel B of the signal generator to power winding B of the Rodin coil...so i can have both windings of the coil being powered together in sync ( with controlable phase angle), both windings though will be powered in opposition to each other, ie :- current flowing in opposite directions to create the "shear".

      once its up and running, tomorrow hopefully, i will take a video of it.

      I agree Rosemary, the goal is to get the magnet spinning and then, hopefully, tap off of that rotating field with pickup coils as per jamies vids....i think the reason my magnet "jumped" so violently is that remember i was replicating by "hand" what my 2 channels of the signal generator will do automatically, so obviously my timing was probbaly off to say the least ( which raises an interesting area of experimentation , namely timing / phase / sequence, which hopefully when im up and running i can investigate ).

      what's kind of funny ( funny ironic, not funny ha ha ) is that Rodin has been saying all this stuff for years and years and years, and its only recently that people have paid attention......but imagine........if people like Tesla, Gray, Moray....etc etc.....had had a Rodin coil to play with....where would we be 'today'?

      Ahimsa,

      David. D

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      • David,
        In good FE fashion...would that violently jumping magnet not be the start of an OU gravity wheel? Magnet jumps, lands in funnel, directed to conveyor driving a generator, falls in coil, and repeat! :-)
        Or could the coil actually be a thruster for magnets, them sitting on a hubless wheel passing through the coil? Marko likes to call it a thrust engine of sorts?

        I have been wondering what it meant that the amperage of Jamie's Coil kept dropping as more pickups were added around it. Voltage was constant? Or was power? They were planning to stuff the who setup with pickup coils to try and close the loop (I seem to remember a video of Jamie at Tesla Tech saying he didn't think it possible). Should be educational to watch your experiments, I'm greatly looking forward to them.

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        • CLox,

          the more i watch the rodin videos ( yes ive watched all 44 parts about 6 timesa around now lol )....the more i get goosebumps, but when i saw that magnet jump like that.....it suddenly hit home like....."whao..theres something MAJOR going on in the middle of that coil...with the right timing etc etc "

          anyways........sleep time for me, maybe the dream Angels will give me some more ideas...


          Adios & Ahimsa for now,

          David

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          • David,
            The more I think of it...
            - concentration of magnetic push/pull in the centre...
            - reports of induction being a product of coil size...

            I cannot think of a higher priority than to create an smaller hole toroid, preferably quite big overall, to wind one to set new levels of precision. Wires will (if I'm visualising correctly) be TOUCHING the inner wall of the toroid, thus right on the Rodin geoemtry. Yes, it will be a crowd in there. The wires passing through the hole, due to their proximity, seem most vital in creating a properly shaped field. How they flutter around the outside of the toroid seems less essential, but that's easier to wind nicely anyway, I would expect.
            I've tried some research on making donuts today, but it seems to come down to making molds with stuff like wax, cast and I suppose heated liquid plastic. Unless someone can bend a thick PVC pipe with a radius barely greater than it's diameter, without losing it's cilindrical profile. Making 2 half molds seems relatively easy. A pot maker could come in handy, witht the turntable. Bring the potter a bunch of pipe cutouts, to help create the correct shape. Really you only need one half mold, if it can be re-used. All seems like a breeze compared to running a couple football fields of wire around a Fisherprice toy.

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            • Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
              The way Jamie decribes his new method seems to match the Rodin math nicely
              I have to agree - as some have noticed that Jamie's method follows my earlier method of winding,

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              • Hi Cloxxki. I think I offended you. I have nothing against Marko Rodin. He has an extraordinary discovery in that number sequence - and is self-evidently a really thoughtful and sincere guy. And that triumverate of Rodin Harieman and Buturff - WHAT TALENT. RHB - Really Heavy Batters, Red Hot Blokes. A winning combination all round. When you think of it - with Rodin's concepts - Harieman's physics and Buturff the experimentalist - there's a synergy and synchronicity that takes the breath away.

                But when it comes to patents - I tend to get impatient. I don't think we've got the time available to us to start insisting on ownership. And what earthly good is a return on a patent if the world economic market is collapsing under the strain of global weather disasters and pollution crises. We need that monopole and really the sooner the better. Maybe even get to the stage of reversing some of the abuse we've thrown at our beautiful mother earth. So. No. I can't forgive anyone trying to grow rich here. Our open source should definitely spread the word. And that - I believe - is the quickest route to development - understanding and applications.

                But I'm out on a limb here. And I realise that there is a really valid counter argument to this. But I'll respect that view - and trust that you'll indulge mine? How boring if we all agreed on everything.

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                • A tribute to the experimentalist

                  Hi Dave. Thanks for the update. Golly. I'm blown away at your skill. I have no idea how to wind a single coil let alone that number you're managing. Endless respect for the experimentalist. I like to think that I'm a theoretical experimentalist but my hands on days are over. The set up for the apparatus - the time needed for each experiment - the documenting and accounting and on and on. At least I'm not comfortably ensconced in my armchair. I'm sitting on a hard chair at the desk. But it's a lazy second best.

                  I think I was too dismissive of the 'jump' in that magnet. It's wonderful. It's just that I'm so anxious to see the generation of cheap current. Critical. The more so as it will possibly be immediately useable.

                  But I have a stream of questions and probably the most fundamental being - what would the effect of this if a single copper wire was threaded through the 'hole' in the middle of that toroid. If this generates a current - and if this does not result in a draw down but a reduction of the supply current - then that's got to be a good thing. It will also answer the 'pick up' effect from those juxtaposed motors that Jamie showed us. It's just so, so exciting.

                  Can't wait to see more on this Dave. I'm holding my breath here.

                  EDIT Another question. What if we simply had a single copper wire threaded through the inside of the toroid?
                  Last edited by witsend; 10-04-2009, 07:19 AM.

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                  • spinning magnetic tops near rodin

                    Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
                    I have been wondering what it meant that the amperage of Jamie's Coil kept dropping as more pickups were added around it. Voltage was constant? Or was power? They were planning to stuff the who setup with pickup coils to try and close the loop (I seem to remember a video of Jamie at Tesla Tech saying he didn't think it possible). Should be educational to watch your experiments, I'm greatly looking forward to them.
                    I wouldn't get too excited about this yet until more is known.
                    It is well known that as you add ferromagnetic material nearby or within a coil, that its inductance will change. The inductance becomes non-linear in the presence of ferro material.
                    When that occurs, the power levels can raise or drop depending upon
                    frequency as would occur per the LRC circuit.
                    So changes in power, be they up or down, can be accounted for by introducing ferromagnetic material into the presence of a coil.

                    Spinning magnetic TOPs nearby the coil, however, is a much more complex situation ... and there may be discoveries to be had in messing around with that.
                    Last edited by morpher44; 10-04-2009, 07:36 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                      Hi Cloxxki. I think I offended you.
                      Rosemary, I've got a thick skin and weak offence detector circuits. To offend me, you'll have to do better :-) Difference of opinion brings enlightenment. Glad to find people who beg to differ, and have good reasons to do so.

                      Morpher, thanks for the lesson! I do try not to jump to conclusions, but what Rosemary has with patents, I have for inconclusive experiments. If they can place 2 or three spinners around the coil within minutes, and intend to do 6 and tap electricity from them...I am really pumped. The uncertainly between hurray and bummer, not being able to build on it further just yet.

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                      • quick update

                        Quick update for Rosemary & others,

                        managed to put together the opto-driven 3055's each connected to channel A & B of my soundcard signal generator..and while it all "worked"....the signal from my soundcard is anything BUT square !..very fuzzy indeed...coupled with a little fuzziness from the opto's & 3055's = no sharpness....


                        soooo.....back to square one, idealy i want to use mosfets, so i think the inverter idea is next.

                        i DID however notice some slightly interesting effects regarding the frequencies of both channels....now i may be wrong here because it sounds back to front.....but...whatever "settings" you use to get maximum "magnet movement"...will not automatically translate into maximum voltage/current generation when you replace the magnet with a coil.

                        But, as i said, first things first, going to try the 555-->inverter--> two mosfets circuit.....wish me luck.

                        as a first stage i will simply drive two mosfets from the same 555 signal....ie....both mosfets will open & close at the same time ( hopefully )...and i will experiment with having winding B connected in opposition to winding A in order to create the 'shear' between both windings.

                        One idea that did spring to mind was.....dumping a CAP in a sharp burst into one winding while at the same time dumping a similar charged cap into the other winding in the other direction in order to try and re-create my "by hands battery terminal tapping thing".....any ideas on that circuit?..because im not to hot with caps and how to wire them etc with switches.

                        (would be a kind of Ed Gray meets Rodin i guess )

                        David. D

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                        • Good Luck Dave

                          Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
                          Rosemary, I've got a thick skin and weak offence detector circuits. To offend me, you'll have to do better :-) Difference of opinion brings enlightenment. Glad to find people who beg to differ, and have good reasons to do so.
                          Thanks Cloxxki.

                          I'm also unduly excited at the 'tapping off fields' around the coil. But I'm still trying to resolve that 'monopolar' effect at the centre. JUST SO INTRIGUING. We're all going to have to wait for Dave's results here I think.

                          Edit. Also, Dave. Thanks for the test update. I wish I could advise but am not sure where you're going with this. Still I'm happy to sit back and wait. And indeed GOOD LUCK.
                          Last edited by witsend; 10-04-2009, 04:39 PM.

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                          • a little advice

                            Hi all,

                            in my attempts to "pulse" the windings of a Rodin coil, can i ask is the attatched circuit correct in terms of what i think it will do.....

                            that is.... when the mosfet is open the Capacitor will get charged from the battery, when the mosfet closes the Capacitor will dump its charge into the coil pronto-fashion ? is this correct?

                            Thanks for all the help so far

                            David. D
                            Last edited by rave154; 03-16-2010, 04:14 PM.

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                            • Anybody help?

                              hi all,

                              Can anybody help with my trying to build the circuit i proposed.

                              Simply to use a 555 circuit ( which i already have ) to drive a switch ( mosfet/ transistor etc ) which when swithc is open allows a cap to be charged from the battery....and when closed... dumps the cap's charge into a coil ?

                              Any Help appreciated.

                              David. D

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                              • Patents

                                But when it comes to patents - I tend to get impatient. I don't think we've got the time available to us to start insisting on ownership. And what earthly good is a return on a patent if the world economic market is collapsing under the strain of global weather disasters and pollution crises. We need that monopole and really the sooner the better. Maybe even get to the stage of reversing some of the abuse we've thrown at our beautiful mother earth. So. No. I can't forgive anyone trying to grow rich here. Our open source should definitely spread the word. And that - I believe - is the quickest route to development - understanding and applications.
                                Hi everybody, It's Jamie. I finally got the ability to post here. I have been wanting to for some time now. It's good to see everybody talking about Rodin coils and their potential.

                                I wanted to address the above quote from witsend. My intention is not to "get rich" but help fund my, Marko's, and other's research. I have spent over $15,000 of personal money this year doing my research here in Sedona. I would love to be able to license some of the technology I have developed to commercial interests so more of us can contribute to this effort. A commercially used Rodin coil will do 2 things. It will bring in much needed funds to continue moving upward with the many designs I have in my head but cannot build them right now, and 2) it will put Marko's work in the public eye in a more legitimate way like never before. Of course, anything I develop is free to anybody who wants it for personal use which is one of the reasons why I publish on YouTube.

                                I'm here to help anybody any way I can. I designed a new coil configuration and a colleague of mine posted diagrams and tables on his site here --> Buturff 360-123/2 Rodin Coil Winding Series | Energy Research

                                The future holds nothing but hope and peace. If we do our work with these concepts in mind then that is what we will achieve.

                                Blessings

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