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  • Pick Up Coil and Neodymium Toroid

    Originally posted by rave154 View Post
    in other words.....what we need for "picking up" in the middle of the rodin...is a pickup coil that ALSO has been designed and built according to the math, so that the two coils fit hand-in-glove so to speak.

    Hope this makes sense and perhaps you Jamie can add to this thought with your own. ( could Marko himself give any thoughts to designing such a pickup coil ? ) David. D
    Here is a quote from Moray B. King's book titled Quest for Zero Point Energy Page 60:"Dual vortex action is required in order to induce a current on a series wound, bifilar coil." Further down that same paragraph,"No form of standard magnetic induction could induce this type of current flow. Sweet [This is the guy conducting the experiment with barium ferrite] is able to tap appreciable electric power (500 watts) from the bifilar coil, and in addition, the current from this coil is "cold", i.e. thin wires (No. 30) can conduct the power without being heated. The current does not appear to be standard electron conduction; instead the coil seems to be guiding vacuum energy displacement currents (King, 1984)."

    This would be the idea with the properly build Rodin coil. In the above quote, Sweet, used a block of loosely sintered barium ferrite and cracked the crystalline structure using one method of counter-rotating AC around the 6" x 4" barium ferrite block at 60Hz. Barium ferrite has a hexagonal crystalline structure. Next Sweet placed 2 counter rotating currents from coils placed on both sides of the 6" x 4" block and placed his bifilar, series wound coil just above the block and got his 500 watts of "cold" current. Moray King doesn't say what the input watts were but the fact that 500 watts was flowing through No. 30 wire and not over heating is something in itself.

    My point to all of this to to build a toroid out of Neodymium, which has a tetragonal crystalline structure and a lot more powerful that barium ferrite. Then magnetize this toroid by wrapping a heavy gauge wire in the 3, 6, and 9 spacing and energizing it just like a manufacturer would do. Remove that wire and wrap smaller gauge copper wire in the 1,7,4, and 2,8,5 spacing and see what that does when energized. Maybe we could get "mangetricity" out of the coil without having to put any energy in.

    Those are my thoughts.

    Jamie
    Last edited by spiritualresults; 10-09-2009, 08:34 PM.

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    • Rodin coil as energy shuttle device

      Bearden, in "The Final Secret of Free Energy"
      focuses mainly on the Fogul Semiconductor, but mentions
      another paper that discusses energy shuttling using
      "RIGID" capacitors. Regular capacitors may show
      an efficiency upwards to 1.0 when using
      ramp-up step-charging, he says,
      but they suffer from "sloppy movement of the plates
      and dielectric".

      Another idea I was toying with "mentally" is the idea
      of having a coil SPIN particles down into a capacitor --
      see "coilpacitor thread".

      Instead of placing a coil in the aperture area of the Rodin coil,
      a specially constructed capacitor could be placed there.
      Suppose that capacitor where spherical.
      When the Rodin coil is pulsed, I would predict that a potential
      difference would appear between the outer surface of that
      sphere and the inner surface -- like a Van de Graaff generator.
      If there is a vortex to be found in that area, there is a
      particle WIND creating an electrostatic anomaly on the surface
      of the sphere. Charges would move themselves inside of the hollow
      sphere.
      If a large potential can be created with very little input
      to the Rodin coil, you have the scenario described by Bearden
      were the input work is isolated from the energy shuttling
      to an output collector.

      So this is another possible path for experimentation.
      Last edited by morpher44; 10-09-2009, 11:24 PM.

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      • penut butter & chocolate experience

        I just had a "peanut butter & chocolate" experience with the
        Rodin coil.

        I hooked up my "Tuna Can" Rodin coil to my scope probes and was
        holding it.
        When holding it, if I applied pressure, providing better skin
        contact to the wires, a pretty large pulse would appear
        that was 20.8Khz (not a 60hz noise).
        I moved the Rodin around the room looking for the source
        of the energy, thinking it was from my oscilloscope.
        It wasn't.
        As I approached the wall next to the scope, the signal
        was more intense. Moving the coil into the next room
        behind that wall ... even more intense...
        Moving it down to the floor... very intense ... upwards to 2 volts now.
        Down on my floor, directly behind that wall
        was a negative ion generator.
        The pickup from that device is very large ... much larger
        than when I bring the coil near the oscilloscope screen --
        which has a high intensity cathode ray beam.

        In this thread:
        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gy-patent.html

        we had been discussing how Tesla may have charged
        his antenna with negative ions for better radiant pickup.
        Its possibly my negative ion generator just has a horrible
        EMF ... but I wonder.
        Last edited by morpher44; 10-10-2009, 07:47 AM.

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        • We Have LIFT OFF !

          Hi all,

          finally got my 555 --> inverter --> mosfets circuit going,(thanks BITS & morpher & everybody for the help, couldnt have done it without ya )

          and..... with a little string of neos ( 10mm diameter, 6mm thick ) a stack of 6 of them in the middle of thr Rodin coil...

          sending 555--->POS --> Winding A-1, NEG --> A-2 and also...

          sending 555-->INV --->POS --> winding B-2, NEG --> B-1

          (if the above doesnt make any sense ill do a shcematic)

          using around 50Hz and as close as i could get to 50% duty cycle, with the stack of magnets in the middle of the Rodin coil as i lifted the coil off the desk...the magnets came with up with it.

          They were dancing around quite a bit, and will fall off now & then, but then again they are not spherical...on this note..does anybody know where i can get the 1-inch spherical NEO from? ( preferably from UK if possible )

          More later as i play around with this thing ( oh What FUN !! )


          David. D

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          • 2 Quick videos

            not sure what this means ....but....

            YouTube - NEO 1

            YouTube - NEO 2

            also, Geminitric, i just checked your new video, awesome, though i do think the spherical
            magnet is the way to go, but..who knows?
            Last edited by rave154; 10-11-2009, 04:14 PM.

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            • schematic

              Hi all,

              heres the schematic ( messy cos im crap at drawing ) for my last 2 videos,

              A-1 = start of Winding-1 on Rodin

              A-2 = endof winding-1

              B-1 = start of winding-2

              B-2 = end of winding-2

              3 batterys in use, batt-1 powers the pwm, batt-2 powers the one mosfet and batt-3 powers the other mosfet, all 3 share a common ground.

              currently set to 36Hz @ 50% duty

              thoughts, comments, improvements?

              David. D
              Last edited by rave154; 03-18-2010, 06:39 PM.

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              • neo spheres

                Originally posted by rave154 View Post

                They were dancing around quite a bit, and will fall off now & then, but then again they are not spherical...on this note..does anybody know where i can get the 1-inch spherical NEO from? ( preferably from UK if possible )

                David. D
                Hi Dave.

                I use those suppliers:
                K&J Magnetics - Products

                cPath_14 | products_id_222 | 1 inch Diameter Sphere, Grade N42, Ni-Cu-Ni Coated, Rare Earth Neodymium NdFeB Magnets - Applied Magnets & WindMax Wind Turbines


                Vtech
                'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                General D.Eisenhower


                http://www.nvtronics.org

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                • chokes

                  Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                  thoughts, comments, improvements?
                  David. D
                  @ Rave154,
                  Nice circuit. I have just one suggestion.
                  The 555 timer part of the circuit is a digital electronics
                  circuit... and as such wants power that is dc only.
                  You can prevent ac from affecting it by putting
                  RF chokes between it and the power supply.
                  One choke for the positive ... and one for the negative.
                  High frequency AC will be attenuated by the chokes
                  if the inductance is say 100uH or greater.

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                  • thanks Morpher, got some chokes on order :-)

                    in the meantime, in an effort to replicate Jamies spining/levitating NEO using his signal generator-to-amplifier->coil...

                    does anybody have a simple circuit that i could feed in my two inputs from my signal generator (2 AC waves) and amplify it to give me the equivelent of Jamies amplifier?

                    Would the circuit shown in my attatchement work, it works when i feed in pulsed DC....but im not sure about feeding in an AC signal.


                    Thanks in advance,

                    David. D
                    Last edited by rave154; 03-18-2010, 06:39 PM.

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                    • 2-Channel Function Generator

                      Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                      ...in the meantime, in an effort to replicate Jamies spining/levitating NEO using his signal generator-to-amplifier->coil...

                      does anybody have a simple circuit that i could feed in my two inputs from my signal generator (2 AC waves) and amplify it to give me the equivelent of Jamies amplifier?

                      Would the circuit shown in my attatchement work, it works when i feed in pulsed DC....but im not sure about feeding in an AC signal.


                      Thanks in advance,

                      David. D
                      Hi David. You can get a Virtins software 2-channel signal generator for your computer. It is free for 21 days and you can just buy the function generator for $24 after that if you like it. Then all you need is a stereo with an MP3 input and hook up your headphones out of your computer to the stereo and you got it. You have to make sure you hook up the two coils opposite each other so current is flowing into the center on A and out from the center on B 180 degrees out of phase.

                      Jamie
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                      • Jamie, Thanks !!........i neevr even thought of using the headphones out of my stereo ! im such a putz sometimes ( always looking for the complicated solution ! )

                        i already downloaded the virtins trial after you mentioned it the other day, and will but the sig gen part for sure.

                        Thanks for the response :-)

                        David. D

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                        • Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                          Jamie, Thanks !!........i neevr even thought of using the headphones out of my stereo ! im such a putz sometimes ( always looking for the complicated solution ! )
                          Occam's Razor. And you're not a putz! What we are working on is going to take all of us together as we ALL have something valuable and pertinent to offer. That's what the up coming paradigm shift is going to be all about. Working together with love, honesty and integrity where greed and power no longer has a place.

                          Jamie

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                          • The Shroud

                            Originally posted by spiritualresults View Post
                            Occam's Razor. And you're not a putz! What we are working on is going to take all of us together as we ALL have something valuable and pertinent to offer. That's what the up coming paradigm shift is going to be all about. Working together with love, honesty and integrity where greed and power no longer has a place.
                            Jamie
                            I saw an interesting video this weekend on the Shroud of Turin.
                            There is some speculation that the images on both sides convey
                            some holographic information. When re-constructed, the 3D data
                            shows a man suspended in the air, with the shroud cloth flat
                            and taught above and below him ... and his body within
                            an event horizon.

                            This made me immediately think of the Rodin coil.

                            I wonder if you were to place some sort of photographic
                            plates above and below the coil -- like kirlian photography,
                            that you could capture an image of the Rodin coil event horizon --
                            in 3D.

                            Hey Jamie, I like your style.
                            Last edited by morpher44; 10-12-2009, 08:43 PM.

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                            • Worth a Look-See

                              Rodin Coil with Scope shots.
                              Video title: Kubik Coil (Second Coil) 002
                              Nicely done Rodin coil, until he put a 3 winding around it?
                              Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                              Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                              • Jamie,

                                Thanks for the help,

                                will rig up my stero & sig gen today after work ( 6 am here now ), 1 small question, do you use any diodes etc to protect the stero/ soundcard from flyback voltage at all?

                                Do you have any thoughts/comments to my comment about constructing a special "pickup coil" to go in the centre of the Rodin coil, at the moment im using a simple coil from a shaded-pole motor, it seems any coil will do, but my thought was since the Rodin coil achieves its performance simply from its "geometry" which in turn comes directly from the "Math" behind it.....the same should apply to a pickup coil in the middle.... therefore....any thoughts on what the shape / winding should be of an optimum pickup coil?

                                My analogy was of two gears, the first being the Rodin coil, and like gears are made to "FIT" together via their teethings, likewise the pickup coil should be wired to "FIT" with the field produced by the Rodin, therefore there should be a relationship between the "Math" and the shape/winding of the pickup coil...but my instinct is saying that the pickup will have to be somewhat of an "inverse" shape/winding to the rodin...much like the teeth of a pickup-gear are inverse to the driving gear (pointing in the other direction).

                                till later today,

                                Ahimsa,

                                David. D

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