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  • Hello everybody!

    I'm following you guys every step of the way since i came across Marko Rodins video clips of his enneagram and subsequent math. I'm a total beginner in electronics but have made my first coil and am waiting for my 1" neo spheres to arrive in a few days.

    I'm absolutely fascinated with the idea of a magnetic vortex and hope to create something like it with the help of Marko's insights and your video's.

    I found a clip on google video which seems to make the magnetic field visible in some kind of liquid (no idea what it is though);
    Magnetic vortex

    Maybe this can be used to study the field in a Rodin coil?

    Keep up the good work! I'm right behind ya!

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    • vortex visualization

      Originally posted by Dogood View Post
      Hello everybody!

      I'm following you guys every step of the way since i came across Marko Rodins video clips of his enneagram and subsequent math. I'm a total beginner in electronics but have made my first coil and am waiting for my 1" neo spheres to arrive in a few days.

      I'm absolutely fascinated with the idea of a magnetic vortex and hope to create something like it with the help of Marko's insights and your video's.

      I found a clip on google video which seems to make the magnetic field visible in some kind of liquid (no idea what it is though);
      Magnetic vortex

      Maybe this can be used to study the field in a Rodin coil?

      Keep up the good work! I'm right behind ya!
      Ah!! Very nice.
      That might actually just be water with
      bubbles forming due to electrolysis.
      Salt in the water may enhance things.
      I know that Stan Deyo used some sort of acid -- yikes!!!
      I prefer safer experiments ... perhaps vinegar.

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      • Well Bigness You where right..
        After getting a few winds on to see where the wires ran I saw
        what I had wrong in the 3d progy...
        using the 4.75 inch doughnut the center opening is smaller than
        the first coil I wound on the smaller doughnut.


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        • Originally posted by wwdotme View Post
          Well Bigness You where right..
          After getting a few winds on to see where the wires ran I saw
          what I had wrong in the 3d progy...
          using the 4.75 inch doughnut the center opening is smaller than
          the first coil I wound on the smaller doughnut.



          A thing of beauty isn't it? The center is shaped correctly now. That is what I was thinking it should look like.

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          • Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
            A thing of beauty isn't it? The center is shaped correctly now. That is what I was thinking it should look like.
            Big difference when winding one and using the program. I tried winding
            winding it the 123/2 way but ran out of pins. So I pined it for the 36 and
            did 1 complete wind. Getting some more pins and pinning the shape for
            the 123/2.

            will post pics of the coil I made soon as my batteries are charged

            ww

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            • pics

              Not pretty but first attempt will work for me.
              Going to add more pins for teh 123/2 winding..

              It can never be said enough Thank you to all the post and discuss ideas
              to share here it is a pleasure read and help advance your ideas....
              ww



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              • very nice.

                Nicely done... Good rough test. My original thoughts were tu use wood for the supporting structure only because having copper inside it will change the magnetic dynamics immensily. But what you have there is good enough to see the effects.

                I'm just about ready with my computations for the support dimentions so it will be interesting to compare our findings. The geometry has to be very very tight! No curves. And with your design it has the curve in it in the center circle. But like I said it will be interesting to see the difference.

                One thing I wanted to impress onto others is the dimentions of the device has to be carefully designed to correspond with the voltages and frequencies you are gonna be using. Like I said if they are based on half and quarter waves or the likes then it is very important to be exact on the dimentions.

                This all starts with what Mr. Rodin calls the name of god or how he pronounces the name of god as he calls it. In the video near the end of his original series of lectures to teach the teachers he talks about the sound and how to pronounce the name of god as his faith believes it is or sounds. I think I'm gonna take a spectrum analyzer and see what specific frequecies and harmonics are in that part of the video. I should then be able to design the Coil/Antenna<-Atom pulser to resonate at that frequency and facilitate the perfect cavity to try to create the needed vortexes and see if we get emmisions from the top and bottom of this coil.

                Also it should be mentioned that the original map to the torrus is this:



                I believe this is the map to the magnetic field created by the coil. I think it wasn't thought out correctly when they first attempted to make a coil from it. And then they modeled it as the coil. Also note the curves in the fields or paths. This we have to incorporate into our designs as well. I think the outside of the coil actually accelerates the swirls in the vortex. Like a propeller blade does with water. The Geometry between the upper and lower part of the field is angled when viewing it from the side. I believe the outer parts of the coils are the motive force to the vortex and the inner is the collection of the vortex energies. But if Marko is right there is extra energy being emited from both ends much like in the larger versions of the Black hole. And they range from gamma to x-ray so I would be very very careful when working with this design if it hits resonance. For safety reasons I would make sure the ends are not pointed at anything living. Just to be safe!
                Last edited by Jbignes5; 10-26-2009, 04:13 PM.

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                • I'm just about ready with my computations for the support dimentions so it will be interesting to compare our findings. The geometry has to be very very tight! No curves. And with your design it has the curve in it in the center circle. But like I said it will be interesting to see the difference.
                  Oh by using the toy in the center it adds curves to the wire.
                  It was the easiest way to add pins I could find.

                  I thought copper might be alright because its not magnetic.

                  Ok 2 tubes and a plate for the center. plastic bottles come in varies sizes
                  the center plate would be esy to cut from wood or plastic. A funnel for
                  the bottom loop so it is out of teh way of teh windings



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                  • WDot, great work constructing the 'new' schematic-coil there

                    Jbig, i had pretty much the same idea re :- snipping out the part where Marko intonates the name of god...and playing through my sound-card to my amp and into the coil....still havent done it yet, may do tonight...

                    also,,, im working on a coil that will pretty much match the torus map you showed almost exactly, i have scaled it down to match my actual donut, now simply to mark it out on the donut, cover the donut in semi-transparent double-sided sticky tape and lay the wires in the curves as per the torus-map.

                    Good stuff in this thread....

                    p.s dont know if Jamie has posted it in this thread yet but he has a new video whjere he has cut out the plastic donut from inside the wire, then flattened the wire in to a mess....and it still levitates & rotates the neo sphere.

                    p.p.s Wbig, your coil-frame is starting to look like the mother-ship at the end of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" ...heheh

                    David. D
                    Last edited by rave154; 10-26-2009, 04:55 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                      WDot, great work constructing the 'new' schematic-coil there

                      Jbig, i had pretty much the same idea re :- snipping out the part where Marko intonates the name of god...and playing through my sound-card to my amp and into the coil....still havent done it yet, may do tonight...

                      also,,, im working on a coil that will pretty much match the torus map you showed almost exactly, i have scaled it down to match my actual donut, now simply to mark it out on the donut, cover the donut in semi-transparent double-sided sticky tape and lay the wires in the curves as per the torus-map.

                      Good stuff in this thread....

                      p.s dont know if Jamie has posted it in this thread yet but he has a new video whjere he has cut out the plastic donut from inside the wire, then flattened the wire in to a mess....and it still levitates & rotates the neo sphere.

                      p.p.s Wbig, your coil-frame is starting to look like the mother-ship at the end of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" ...heheh

                      David. D
                      Well of course it looks like that. If what I suspect is true this might be the drive to that type of a ship. It would sure explain the sightings and the reported shape. My ultimate coils would be the of the design of flattened wire on the outside to keep the shear and gaps even. I suspect that this is why Rodin talks about it to a degree that the wires should be morphed flat on the out side and kept unmorphed on the inside. The geometry should be the same on the outside as in the inside and thats the trick to this geometry. The sheer and gap spaces should be the same all the way thru the coil. It has alot to do with resonance and antenna theories as well.

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                      • Perfect structure

                        Originally posted by wwdotme View Post
                        Oh by using the toy in the center it adds curves to the wire.
                        It was the easiest way to add pins I could find.

                        I thought copper might be alright because its not magnetic.

                        Ok 2 tubes and a plate for the center. plastic bottles come in varies sizes
                        the center plate would be esy to cut from wood or plastic. A funnel for
                        the bottom loop so it is out of teh way of teh windings



                        I think you out did me there. Thats a way better structure for the inside! Simple and complete solution.

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                        • copper

                          Originally posted by wwdotme View Post
                          I thought copper might be alright because its not magnetic.
                          It is diamagnetic with Xm = -2.1.

                          There may be weird Lenz law effects with copper.

                          Also, I've learned recently that copper inside a coil
                          actually reduces its inductance -- which I didn't know before.
                          I also didn't know that charges build up on copper (or aluminum)
                          if placed in a coil ... and so when you switch the sucker
                          off, be sure to ground out the copper before handling it.
                          There might be a left-over charge.

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                          • Stan Deyo vs Rodin

                            Stan Deyo's antigravity lecture discusses the
                            Lorentz-O!!

                            http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ar...avity_deyo.pdf


                            I wonder if the Rodin toroid winding could be utilized
                            in this sort of configuration ... wrapped around a "broken"
                            ferromagnetic toroid which doesn't have a round-trip
                            magnetic circuit?

                            The Rodin configuration may provide a better focusing
                            of the magnetic spin.

                            All that is needed to experiment with this is to
                            create a toroidal shape out of metal (or ferro) and
                            to cut a little slice out of it.

                            Any takers?

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                            • Hey JBig
                              Is this what you mean when talking about flattening the wire for the windings?
                              the inside of the winding would be the smallest dia.

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                              • Originally posted by wwdotme View Post
                                Hey JBig
                                Is this what you mean when talking about flattening the wire for the windings?
                                the inside of the winding would be the smallest dia.
                                Yes perfect! Thats exactly what i am talking about. Also Morpher has a point there about copper rigging inside of the coil. Be very careful handling that coil...

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