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  • There are many contributions.

    And there are many ways one could contribute. One might be a builder and one might be a thinker. Talent is a talent. And a contribution is a contribution. All is invited to share thier contributions. Weather they agree or not it is welcomed. I on the other hand will listen to any suggestions and even incorporate them into my experiments and hopefully others as well will do the same. Thats what gets the ball rolling. Thats what scientific progress is. We are all just students no matter what degree of your current skillset is. Like I said everything is welcomed. Even challenges to our designs and methods because it brings a better understanding to the outcome.

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    • circuit help

      Hi, all

      been way layed a bit due to a cold, so while im at home been trying to think of how to achieve the following ( see attatchment ) but am stuck.

      Basically a short ( around 10%) pules to the first winding, as this pulse is collapsing i want the other pulse of same duty ( 10% ) to start in the other widning therebyw creating an almost instanteous "shear" between the two windings.

      Anybody got any ideas on the circuit, i have 555's etc up the wazoo...i also have the dual 555 ( by that i mean two 555's wired together ) from Dave Lawtons "HHO" circuit where one 555 triggers the 2nd one...but is there a way to get the 2nd 555 to fire only 1 pulse then stop and wait to be re-triggered by the 1st 555 again?

      David. D
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      • You need a one-shot circuit

        I don't have the information with me at the moment but look for a circuit called a one-shot. I know a 555 can be wired to fire once and then wait for another pulse to fire again. Hope this helps, citfta
        Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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        • software

          I'm quite unfamiliar with electronics so i don't use any 555 or other circuit.
          Jamie used his amp and a software program to generate sine or square waves.
          I'm using this also and it works quite fine.

          Still i do have some programming experience and was thinking about making a tone generator custom made for the rodin coil's a and b windings.
          Is there in general something to say against using tone generators with the rodin coil? If not, a software solution to the pulse requirements would be ideal?
          I could incorporate a pulse delay for a 1,2,3 step or anything else.

          If many people here think it's a good idea I'll be ready sooner..
          Last edited by Dogood; 11-03-2009, 12:40 PM. Reason: typo

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          • CITFA,

            thanks, will check it out

            Dogwood,
            i think the tone-gen (+ AMP) is ideal if you can also find one that allows user-defined waveforms as it gives complete control over potential waveforms sent into the windings, skys the limit as far as experiments go. have to keep an eye on the quality of the waveform though, i noticed a severe degredation in the square wave being put out by my soundcard at higher freq's

            David. D

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            • hmmm

              I'm sure a computerized version would be an excelent source of the input just remember that we only need 1 real pulse then the second will come from the back emf of the first pulse. kinda hard to do that but maybe it might happen. Im sure the best method is to use a computer seeing that everything about the program can be modified so we can use a very cutomized signal. let me give you some ideas.

              The first pulse should be made square wave. the width should be changable. then we need two mark spaces so that the back emf can work from the first coil to the second. the last mark space should always be empty. and thats it i think. well all the marks should be able to have the changes made evenly. If you change the first it will change them all so they keep the same ratio across the full cycle. For future upgrades we could try making each portion adjustable in case there is a specific timing needed for each.

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              • Jbig,

                only 1 problem is that we cant really control the duration of the BEMF pulse, its virtually instantaneous...but would make an interesting exp for sure.

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                • Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                  Dogwood,
                  i think the tone-gen (+ AMP) is ideal if you can also find one that allows user-defined waveforms as it gives complete control over potential waveforms sent into the windings, skys the limit as far as experiments go. have to keep an eye on the quality of the waveform though, i noticed a severe degredation in the square wave being put out by my soundcard at higher freq's

                  David. D
                  I will test for this tonight. Do you remember at which freq this occured? In my rodin coil tests i didn't use any freq higher than maybe 150..

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                  • Dog,

                    if youre referring to Jamie & mines rodin NEO sphere rotation/levitation...that was @ 20Hz AC

                    ahh...you meant what freq did the degredation occur......pretty high up.at the lower freq's..500Hz or so....was a reasonable square wave shape....once i went to like 10Khz then it started to deteriorate
                    Last edited by rave154; 11-03-2009, 02:24 PM.

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                    • 555 timer circuits

                      hey Rave
                      I found this site on 555 timer circuits.
                      Should find some good stuff here or all those chips
                      LM555 Timer Circuits

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                      • WDOt,

                        good find there,

                        i found this for Jbig..

                        (see attatchment ) 3-stage timer......loooks like just the job for controlling a 3 stage output ( 3rd stage would not be connected to anything )
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                        • Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                          Jbig,

                          only 1 problem is that we cant really control the duration of the BEMF pulse, its virtually instantaneous...but would make an interesting exp for sure.
                          No need to control the bemf pulse. Just need to adhere to the timing setup from the first pulse. Then let it perk for the rest of the timing. But it is something we are gonna have to play with..

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                          • Pickup Coil Double Helix

                            Here is a link to a new design for a pickup coil. It is a double helix and thought a Rodin solution might work better. I thought I'd share.

                            Novel magnetic-field manipulation leads to unusual generator : Windpower Engineering – Design, Installation, Service, Policy and News for the Windpower Professional


                            Jamie

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                            • Jamie,

                              interesting design there.,and quite a saving using there figures of down to 65 tonnes from 500 tonnes ( damn thats a lot of copper ! )

                              Jamie, how do you see the best way to go about tapping the coils potential.......via a coil of some sort......or.....via magnets ( with pickup coils )....or....as a third option... using the coils magnetic properties as a way to control magnetic flux-direction.

                              David. D

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                              • Magnetic Toroid

                                Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                                Jamie, how do you see the best way to go about tapping the coils potential.......via a coil of some sort......or.....via magnets ( with pickup coils )....or....as a third option... using the coils magnetic properties as a way to control magnetic flux-direction.

                                David. D
                                We are still going about this Rodin coil thing with conventional thinking. I know I'm guilty of it but it's hard to break out of what we know and what has been ingrained in us. One of the ideas I had was to have a custom toroid made out of NdFeB and then wrapped this with high voltage wire in the 3, 6, and 9 space then magnetized the toroid with the same energy you would to make a N52 neodymium magnet. Then take off that wire and wrap the toroid with copper wire according to the best Rodin coil method in the 1,7,4 and 2,8,5 space to get "magnetricity".

                                This may not work at all but I know there's a way to use Marko's work to get pure and free energy without having to input anything other than intention and design! Scientists today scoff at the phrase "Perpetual Motion" but they are not looking around. Electrons are in perpetual motion around their nucleus as well as our planets and galaxies. Perpetual motion is everywhere. All we have to do is build a device that mimics the universe and we have it. Marko has provided the math. It's up to us to interpret it and be the New Builders.

                                Jamie

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