Marko Rodin

[marxist]

does it also work as a generator?

Hello Jamie, rave and all,

since the magnetic field created by your energized Rodin coils makes a magnet spin and levitate,
I was wondering whether one of you tried out the opposite effect?
That is:
is it possible to extract/measure an electrical signal at the coil's terminals, if you spin the magnet (with a motor or such like)?
In other words will the Rodin toroid pick up the field of a spinning magnet and transform it into electrical power (possibly very low voltage, but some current/amps)?

Thanks

[rave154]

Marxist & others,

i just placed 2 types of cylinder neo's onto the shaft of a small DC motor,

the cylinders are 1) 20mm D x 20mm height - diamgnetically magnetised

and 2) 23mm D x 20mm height - magnetised N & S on the top & bottom of the cylinder

using one winding of the Rodin coil, going to a 2000V microwave oven cap, then onto a 120 Ohm resistor and measuring the DC voltage across the resistor.

using a 12V 7Ah battery to power the motor and having the cylinder placed into the rodin while spinning gave the following

type 1) ZERO volts, fluctuating to perhaps 4 millivolts no matter where the magnet was placed

type 2) ZERO volts as above in type- 1)

however......

using type 1) and while it is spinning i am dipping the magnet/motor up and down into & outof the coil produced ZERO volts.....but doing the same using the type 2) gave...

while spinning & dipping - approx 60-70 milli volts

not spinning but only dipping - again about 60-70 millivolts

David. D

[rave154]

add on to my last post,

using the type 1) magnet ( diamagnetic ) with two 8mm spheres stuck on in "Lidmotor saturn motor" fashion... placing that in the middle of the rodin coil at an angle of about 45 degrees produced the best voltage which was about 1.8 VDC.

David. D

[redrichie]

Mostly the same thing here too. I tried Diam. Mag neos all around the Rodin coil. inside the rodin coil. On top below and any other preposition you can think of. Could get any pick-up from it. I was thinking more wraps. Each wrap quad-filar maybee? It can levitate a neo but cant produce the electricity from them. At least not in the VERY limited knowledge that I have.

[rave154]

Hi all,

this morning i have managed to configure my soundcard-signal generator to send the following signal to an "amp" which in turn goes to the windings of my rodin coil..

the signal sequence is ...

A ON, B OFF ( 33.333%)

A OFF, B ON ( 33.33%)

A OFF, B OFF ( 33.33%)

using the coil from a shaded pole motor connected to a FWBR in turn to a cap with a 120 Ohm resistor across it and measuring voltage i found that by sliding a ferrite core inside the coil gave a REDUCED voltage across the resistor... however...

i quickly fashioned a spiral/cone shaped coil, approx only 8 turns tapering to a point wound around a cone of cardboard... while measuring the voltage i found that by adding a piece of ferrite into the middle of the coil-cone the voltage increased...why the difference between the two pickup coils?

the measuements were only in the millivolt range as the cone-coil has such few windings of 26SWG copper on it.

Also, i tried adding a little bag of black iron oxide ( magnetite, FE304 ) into the middle of the cone....no change in voltage.

Not sure what all of this means ( if anything ), suggestions for further testing welcomed.

David. D

[marxist]

extraction

Hi rave154 and redrichie,
thank you for reporting about your pickup experiments using mechanically spun magnets.

I was looking forward to hear, that the 'Rodin coil plus magnet' would also work in reverse and could be used to pick up energy from an axially magnetized and axially spinning magnet.

But your experiments seem to show, that this does not work in straightforward fashion
(unless the magnets are oriented in a peculiar fashion as indicated in rave154's posting #408)

So I am thrown back to the point of departure:
the Rodin coil (or a motor) used AS A DRIVER for the 'normal axially magnetized spinner'.
I am sure it is possible to extract DC from such a magnetic spinner.
In a way kind of like this in reverse:
Homopolar motor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I am thinking:
With sliding contacts at the center and at the perimeter of the magnet, it will surely be possible to extract a DC current from the magnet, as from a Faraday disc.
Homopolar generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yet one problem will be, that the obtainable voltage is very low, as it depends on the DIAMETER of the magnet. And the magnets we use are just too small.

Magnetized spinners of large enough diameter would be desirable ....
yet, large diameter magnets are not available to us...
so we would have to create such a large magnetized spinner by ourselves ...
using coils to magnetize it ...
doing away with the neo balls and instead spinning a piece of metal that is magnetized by a coil ...
and then the sliding contacts - necessary for energy extraction - will start to create mechanical and contact problems, getting hot, etc. ...

Will let you know when I hit on a feasible idea.

[rave154]

Using the same setup as my last posts, i tried a coil fashioned as an air cored toroid from 20SWG wire wound around a pen then removed the pen and curled the coil into a toroid... no significant pickup abilities.

i tried a standard toroid coil wound around a ferrite toroid.again.little or no pickup from the rodin "field"

[Dogood]

@rave

I had the same results. This is quite interesting though. Doesn't this mean that the magic is happening due to the 'extra' effects of the Rodin configuration wich would explain why it doesn't produce an equal effect the other way round?

[rave154]

I agree, sending a "normal" signal into the rodin produces a "non-normal" field......but...the other way around.... generating a normal magnetic field ( via the spinning mags ) does not produce a non normal generation 'out' of the rodin.

So, im back to my original thought, that we need a specially designed pickup coil to go in the middle of the rodin, something thats also based on the maths.

So that as the field in the centre of the rodin is moving in all of its weird & wonderfal ways the pickup coil has wires in the "right places" to pick it up properly. the neo sphere "tries" to respond to the changing field as best as it can and this manifests in either spinning or jerking etc. only a properly designed pickup coil.....or lets say.....pickup "device" could respond fully to pickup EVERYTHING that the rodin is putting out via its field.

David. D

[Dave45]

Magnetricity is produced using a toroid shaped superconducting magnet, the rodin coil has shown to produce a monopole in metal I wonder if it would do it in ice.

[freshearth]

rodin pickup coil

I'm glad you have started in on the rodin pickup device thought.

I've been pondering this for a while myself.

I think the pickup coil might work best if it was wound in perhaps a double tornado effect with the math and put in the inside of the torus.

Another idea I had was to somehow replicate the dorje (vril) by casting and then put that in the inside of the torus.

i think since the biggest factor in the coil is the wind, then a sense of math/sacred geometry will need to be used in the corresponding pickup coil or motor in order to maximize the draw off the coil either for generating or pickup.

Some type of tesla coil might fit in the inside of the torus nicely as well...

The type of wire used might be a factor.

Other thoughts to ponder: Has anyone tried stacking a bunch of rodins like a hendershot generator?

[rave154]

Hi all,

just found this ( by accident )...

Patent US5773919

read claim-1 !!!!!! where have we seen that before???

[marxist]

only one particular frequency works?

Hi rave and other levitators,
sorry to bother you again but I still got some questions.

I understand that the magnetic sphere you are using, spins and levitates when you apply a signal of ca. 20 Hz (plus the same signal 180° phase shifted, on the second winding)

1.) If you raise the frequency, once the ball is in levitation, will it start to spin faster?

2.) If you place the ball while the signal is OFF, and then apply a signal with a "wrong" frequency, say 40 or 50 Hz, what will the ball do?

I guess it will just vibrate. True?

3.) So one needs to apply the right frequency in order to get it started. True?

Thanks

[Jbignes5]

What I have been up to.

Sorryguys for the long absence and here is a taste of my first prototype. It is small only to see the complex reactions and not for anything else usefull.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...ncoilframe.jpg

This is just the frame to the coil. And was taken from one of the testers here. Speak up because I don't remember off hand who it was.

[Cloxxki]

Nice proto!
Seems the wires will JUST clear the top of the pipe when passing through? I compared with your drawing 2 pages back, and it's TIGHT. Might not matter for the function of the thing, though.
Looking forward to more!