Marko Rodin

[rave154]

CLOXXI,

i like that idea of winding very much, one could wind two wires at the same time ( joined speaker cable for example? ) starting at the top of the pillars and going around in the pattern of the petroglyph and working down the pillars each time a "circuit" is completed....interesting

hmm...thinking about it....if you wound a coil like that and made the pillars long enough....then.....assuming the pillars were flexible enough, if you took the one end of the pillars and bent it around in order to meet the other end of the pillars, you would have a "toroid" with windings on it in the shape of the petroglyph...would this be the same as the "standard" rodin coil....or different.....hard to visualise in the mind alone.

interesting nonetheless.

David. D

[Cloxxki]

CLOXXI,

i like that idea of winding very much, one could wind two wires at the same time ( joined speaker cable for example? ) starting at the top of the pillars and going around in the pattern of the petroglyph and working down the pillars each time a "circuit" is completed....interesting

hmm...thinking about it....if you wound a coil like that and made the pillars long enough....then.....assuming the pillars were flexible enough, if you took the one end of the pillars and bent it around in order to meet the other end of the pillars, you would have a "toroid" with windings on it in the shape of the petroglyph...would this be the same as the "standard" rodin coil....or different.....hard to visualise in the mind alone.

interesting nonetheless.

David. D

Thanks for pickingup on my little idea up David. I might have come up with that myself, but that's what forums are for.
I suppose it would be a Rodin toroid with an extra dimension weaved into it. The wires are not on a cylindrical surface, but rather criss-cross the toroid body, previously left unused, at least from a wire point of view.
As said, I am uneducated so don't take me too seriously. Somehow, I always get the idea with Rodin coils in video's that the energy supposed to be unleashed, is "stuck" in the wrong dimension. Even if that's true, I can but guess which way would be correct. I'm definately holding my breath to learn what jbignes' coil idea is going to bring.
"My" stacked web Rodin coil may be only useful with a pickup barrel coil arund it, or as motor itself. The stacked web toroid made from it...just might produce the mother of all magnetic fields? If it does anything at all, I would expect the torque it could product to be tremendous, yet at lower rpms.

[Cloxxki]

Oh me and my wonderful drawing skills. I used a prior attempt at Paint to make this one less painful.

And yes, I know I managed to make both cross-sections mirror views...

[rave154]

CLOXXI,

looking at your diagram, yes, thats how id invisaged it, it would indeed be quite different from a "standard" rodin coil, in many ways.

the space for the 3 & 6 & 9 would be implicate & natural in that winding.

its reminding me an aweful lot of MORPHERS "Hendershot basket-weave coil" replication.....perhaps Morpher would like to comment on this?

maybe the hendershot coil was a Crude-almost-nearly-sorta-rodin coil......of this fashion ( yours cloxxi )

anybody got 9 sticks and some wire?

[Cloxxki]

CLOXXI,

looking at your diagram, yes, thats how id invisaged it, it would indeed be quite different from a "standard" rodin coil, in many ways.

the space for the 3 & 6 & 9 would be implicate & natural in that winding.

its reminding me an aweful lot of MORPHERS "Hendershot basket-weave coil" replication.....perhaps Morpher would like to comment on this?

maybe the hendershot coil was a Crude-almost-nearly-sorta-rodin coil......of this fashion ( yours cloxxi )

anybody got 9 sticks and some wire?

With the complexity of such a stacked web coil, the variantions to be tried are overwhelming. For instance, a slight repositioning of the numbers (they are each simply circles on the toroid skin) could make any one number pretty much focus in a single point. If there is any thrust to be had, it may need to be focussed in such or similar manner.

And then, there is the theory of the universe as a double toroid. Particles being exchanged between the two.

[vegasscorpion]

very similar to Rodin Coil

Hi All,
I don't know if this has been posted yet.

The DuVersity Library: The Enneagram

Gurdjieff first introduced the enneagram to his pupils in 1916. It was presented as a universal symbol for understanding how a process in time could become organised to become an evolutionary event. Such a process is no longer 'in' time but creates its own time and becomes 'relatively immortal' as a living structure.

INNER LINES: The cyclic linkages between the six points in the sequence 142857 represent the understanding of the process taking part in the process itself. This is sometimes called the 'inner life' of the process, or its 'soul'.

Very similar to Marko's 1,2,4,8,7,5

[MythMath]

The Gurdjieff enneagram/sigil: 1,4,2,8,5,7...



Stillshot taken from a Rodin video:

[rococo]

Steorn with toroids

Hi.

Happy New Year to all!

I just found this video and wonder if this can be improved by using Rodin coils instead of regular toroids.

The Steorn magnetic motor replication by Jean-Louis Naudin

[rave154]

i doubt that this device can use a rodin coil for the following reason.

from what ive seen so far, due to the fact that a normal toroid coil keeps the magnetic field it produces trapped inside its core and none of it is exterior, the rodin coil on the other hand does NOT keep the field inside the core(donut) ...but...i guess we'll never know till we try.

[marxist]

vortex coil orbo

....
I just found this video and wonder if this can be improved by using Rodin coils instead of regular toroids.

The Steorn magnetic motor replication by Jean-Louis Naudin

I don't know whether the orbo can be improved with vortex coils, but a pulse motor with a vortex coil will definitely run. Some others have already modified their Bedini motors using Rodin coils.

I put an iron "core" in the central hole of a small vortex coil, so that this core works as an attractor for the magnet(s) on the rotor.
Then one can energize the coil when the magnet is approximately opposite to it, so the coil will repel the magnet and round it goes ...

edit:
note: Even without any kind of core vortex and Rodin coils strongly repel or attract a magnet (depending on polarity) when energized.

[rave154]

oh, nice going there marxist !

[Dogood]

YouTube - MotionTrailRodinCoil

Here's a great visualisation of the electron flow in a standard Rodin coil. A bit fancy with the magic twinkels but the top-view gives a nice view of the rotational field in the center i think.
The video comment from the creator also says that for harmonics A and B frequency should evidently be different. I'm not sure about that, would the wire not be 'saturated' with electrons with each pulse? (I guess connecting the A-out and B-in would not be the way to go here)

Anybody have any ideas on his frequency harmonics statement? Love to hear your views.

[chrchel]

Unfinished pyramid winding?

On the other "rodin" forum guys compared the freemason’s compass/sqare symbol with rodin’s anagram.
Why not taking this idea further with “unfinished pyramid shape”.
Maybe a new candidate for winding the rodin golden ratio coil?
When I was done with drawing, I started to analyze it.

ps: what 33 degree masons know?

[chrchel]

Unfinished pyramid template winding?

The second drawing is further elaboration.
Try to pay attention to self evident details.


I would recommend winding it with the “Twistite”
triple wire, the one Jamie Buturff used for one of his newer coils. Or even better.. twisting the twistite wire even more to reach the “mobius coil” style wire:


What you guys think?

[chrchel]

all seeing eye vortex

This is a different thing, but visually very intresting indeed.
Pause it at 0:16 and pay attention to the 2d shape.
Two circles intersecting in the middle with vortex motion in the center.. There is also the golden ratio element in it and fractal element as well. See the smaller eye in the middle turned in 90 degrees. That’s an awesome 3d presentation of the “all seeing eye” vortex symbology I think.

YouTube - A wierd spiral