Trying to decode Tesla's converters.

[Farmhand]

OK i just came up with a plan, I have a three phase toroidal transfromer with a 3.25 inch inside diameter, but I don't think it has anywhere near enough turns on the primaries to be able to test this. However I will construct a rotor from a computer fan with a kind of triangular steel disc mounted flat on top of it which won't be easy to get ballanced for fast rotation, but I'll try. First I'll try it in single phase (because that's how i'm using it now, with all three poles at once. Then I'll reconfigure my controller to work in three phase if I need to. I hope to get more core's soon and also make an iron core from lots of small thickness individual iron rings of differing sizes (stacked into an oval shape cross section ) made from wire with the ends welded together (if I can get some), and maybe I will go to a scrapyard to seek some thin wrought iron flat bar, then make a welded ring laminate core, less air gaps, the round wire core I will fill the spaces as I go with something, probably wax.

Either way should work. Then I can wind it with the appropriate amount and type of wire into four coils on there.

Hmm sounds like fun.

Nikola says that these motors can be reversed almost instantly, which is hard to believe for obvious reasons. But if true that would be pretty neat. Haha especially for a vehicle. I think if we want to drive motors cheaply this could be an option.

In the polyphase document there is also a device for regulating a motor's speed and change it's direction of rotation very easily. Looks like it could be difficult to build properly though.

Cheers

[7imix]

Let me describe my concept.

Based on Tesla statements I see two kinds of waves : damped like a capacitor discharge and undamped called also continuous - which I believe is in resonant RLC circuit with small resistance compared to inductance and capacitance.
Now I imagine two circuits : one generating damped wave with squeeze factor as described by Tesla - releasing energy at much higher rate.
Then I imagine a second resonant circuit loosely connected with the first by magnetic field maybe. If damped wave would be resonant frequency of that second circuit the continuous oscillation should occur there having total of energy of that single damped discharge.
Such a combination would be a method of producing large oscillating output current of high amperage from relatively low power input.

So I'm asking : where is the flaw in my argumentation ?

I think you are absolutely right.

Right before the 1895 fire, Tesla was working on creating liquid oxygen for cooling his coils. Cooling the coils reduces the ohmic resistance. The less ohmic resistance and electromagnetic radiation, the less energy is lost from the secondary, the less input power is required to maintain the oscillation. How is this energy then drawn off? One-wire transmission to a number of receiving transformers, wound in opposition to the sender?

I have been playing with a circuit that I think is relevant to this discussion, so I made a video.

YouTube - ‪Fully Damped versus Fully Undamped waveforms‬‏

One thing I have not had as much success with yet is loosening the coupling between the primary and secondary. I think I need much higher voltages on the primary side in order to make the magnetic field stronger. Working with low voltages is so much easier, but I think the real gains will only be realized at higher voltages.

[boguslaw]

Ways of loosening coupling:
a) asymmetric design
b) convert energy form (into heat ,light, hho or by magnetic shield or by mechanic device) and feedback to source via converter
c) symmetrical lenz rule elimination
d) phase change and intermodulation
e) diodes, rectification etc
f) etheric flow condensation ( quite advanced technic) - vide Kapanadze, Hubbard, Mace-Mayer
g) ferromagnetic properties - NMR and magnetic field lines condensation - Ankvich,SR913,Mace-Mayer

Surely one device can combine many ways.

more or less all is based on ether concept and generating radiant energy

There is a lot of riddles to solve, and one of them is how to make amperage from HV. HV is ether at strain or pressure but flow is in form of tiny tube in ether. There should be a way to "condense" it or multiply into a set of tubes and one way is going probably via magnetic force (two vortexes of tubes in ether).

[7imix]

One way to use hv might be don Smith's method: store it in high voltage capacitors and then find some efficient method of stepping down the voltage. The simplest implementation given by don smith would be a spark gap shorting the capacitors, followed by a resistor and a step down transformer in parallel. The resistor would be chosen based on the capacitance of the caps and the inductance of the transformer with a target frequency of 60hz for use by normal household appliances.

The spark gap he described for this setup had a ground in the middle. So it was actually two spark gaps. This repeatedly electrically connects the circuit to a much larger mass of metal for a brief time. Knowing where to connect the ground in these devices is important.

I have a 500 volt transistor, so I will see if I can charge a cap with medium voltage and switch it through a transformer. I would like to know how to build some sort of bucking transformer or some other method of stepping down the voltage... What about charging the hv caps in series and discharging them in parallel, that should reduce the output voltage and increase the current.

[Farmhand]

Here is a diagram from one of Eric Dollards Papers.

http://wv02pa.bay.livefilestore.com/...ure.jpg?psid=1

Explaining Lagging Phase Quadrature. When I first discovered the Tesla converter at the beginning of the "This is it" thread, I knew I should have just went with the Tesla Quad coil configuration. There is a reason it must have four coils. I will be getting more core's and wire in due time.

This time I will be winding a Tesla converter (in Quadrature) not a Bob Boyce
Tranasformer in three phase.

I think the three Phase transformer is good and is very usefull, so I won't complain, it has taught me a bit.

However I think a Tesla converter will be much more usefull and teach me even more.

Source document
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Eric_Dollard_...%20Dollard.pdf

If I had wound it Tesla style I think I would be somewhat ahead of where I am now. But not to worry. I see now I should have went with my intuition.

This post
http://www.energeticforum.com/115948-post76.html

From this page.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa.../6665-a-3.html

Thanks to Eric I have a better understanding of why I want to have one.

Cheers

[WeThePeople]

In this little book I believe are all answers:
NIKOLA TESLA ON HIS WORK WITH ALTERNATING CURRENTS

Surprisingly this book has never been available widely

I have only found a part of it on net.
Very informative

You can read it online here:
Nikola Tesla On His Work With Alternating Currents



And here is a PDF of it:
(EDIT: If this isn't all of it, let me know, I'll search more...)

[boguslaw]

It is only chapter IV !

[WeThePeople]

In this little book I believe are all answers:
NIKOLA TESLA ON HIS WORK WITH ALTERNATING CURRENTS
and Their Application to Wireless Telegraphy, Telephony and Transmission of Power : An Extended Interview

Wow, sorry about that, I'll search more.

I am finding wildly different page counts out there,
are you indicating you have the book by chance ?

Do you, or anyone reading this know how many pages are in the full version please ?

I'll search when I get home tonight again,
I only have a few identifiers so far...

Open Library = OL3569674M
ISBN 10 = 1893817016
LC Control Number = 2002072006
OCLC/WorldCat = 50091725
Library Thing = 2051326
Goodreads = 2101172

[boguslaw]

NO, I have not that book, which is a HUGE pity ! I can't also buy it because I'm out of resources and to send it across Atlantic would be costly (I live in Poland).
It's a very sad that such important book is so much forgotten and hard to get.

[boguslaw]

WeThePeople

You would make BIG favour for me and humanity if you could scan this book into pdf file.
Though I don't know if this is possible due to copyright, hmm.However it's Tesla interview and he is quite dead now , so maybe...

Nikola Tesla on his work with alternating currents and their application to wireless telegraphy, telephony, and transmission of power (Open Library)

[WeThePeople]

Heheh, I haven't had anything in paper form for a few decades.

Let me poke around the net for a week or so,
the original 1992 one has many more pages than this 2002 one does for some reason.

It might just be layout and font/form reasons,
or there might be more in their original version.

But over a hundred pages more makes me a bit sceptical...

I'll see what I can find.

I'm in the USA, and our government has just passed a real threat to all of us sharing anything anymore. Only a hold one senator put on it is slowing them down from eliminating sharing sites like this one by flat-out blocking them.

It's just China-censorship all over again, sigh

[MonsieurM]

I found this document, which i think is authored by Nicolas Tesla, I have uploaded it, so as you can have access to it

also this website, it has all sort of article on Tesla (published starting at 1888)

Selected Tesla Writings -- Table of Contents

[WeThePeople]

Thank you Monsieur, I've added to my collection.

I did find it for only $28.50US here:
chapters.indigo.ca $28.50

I've seen for over $600 in a few places, wow...

[WeThePeople]

Let me ask this of all of you that read this.

I have DVD's full of tesla stuff I would gladly share,
OK, first I would have to round them all up (A month at least...)

In this day of exploding WiKi's everywhere,
does anyone know of a WiKi site on foreign soil
that has a more open sharing policy than US and EU ?



I could pack them into smaller split 100-MB sections,
and then post them online on hosing sites of course.

But no one else could contribute to the collection that way.

Don't get me wrong, copyrights on LIVING people deserve consideration,
but that so many people are making a ton of dough on a dead person's I.P.,
really loosens my urgency to respect that aspect of sharing all this stuff.

They certainly don't have "Written permission" from Tesla to do this, lol !



I think that if I dumped the first 20-30 gig's of my stuff
onto a dedicated WiKi page for Tesla to get things started,
that others would contribute what they have found too, right ?



Then I would have to contact Eric Dollard,
and ask if I may do the same for him too.

Far to much of that man's stuff is lost to time,
and outfits selling it instead of sharing it instead.

Those stories of him living out of his car sure do indicate to me
that they are NOT properly sharing the profits of that with him...

[7imix]

Just make a torrent of it. That way everyone who is interested in the information shares the burden of hosting it, there is no centralized server which can be taken down, and even if the original uploader stops seeding (hosting for others to download), other peers who managed to download the torrent can continue seeding and making it available to others who wish to download.

What we are seeing right now with governments and lawmakers is the last gasp of a dying system. Laws exist only to restrict individual freedoms. Prior to the digital age, physical restraints on copying also restricted the individual's freedom and allowed "intellectual property" (ha!) owners to reap large profit margins once the initial costs of content creation were paid for. Since mass manufacturing reduces the cost of copying to negligible levels compared to what people have historically been willing to pay, the profit margins were large.

Now that copying is basically free and not constrained by physical reality (ignoring the costs of running the network, which are distributed), the only way media companies (and energy companies!) can maintain unfair profit margins is through threats and coercion. At this point, laws and the entire legal system exist basically to maintain unsustainable and outdated business models. Luckily, legislation and coercive threats are no match for technology, which is truly neutral. Laws are inherently biased simply because they have a point of view. Technology does not have opinions.

Over the next few years we will see lawmakers and the businesses which fund them get more and more agitated and draconian as they try to legislate their own twisted moral worldview which unfortunately is simply not compatible with reality any more. They will be able to continue to coerce and control people with fear, but the tactics they are using stem from their own fear -- their own inner self knowing that they are fighting a losing battle.

It's best to just ignore them and do what is best for humanity at large. We have a right to share and learn and grow. The desire to do this is fundamental. What is unnatural is the fact that 1% of the population controls 35% of the world's resources and that they use these resources to write laws which do absolutely nothing but restrict the freedom of individuals.