Switching coil with spark gap to make radiant

[sucahyo]

This experiment is what I think give proof that spark gap is a high frequency switch.

YouTube - Spark gap as radiant switch

I connect a coil (modem adaptor transformer) in parallel with neon and diode. I connect it to the output of my radiant oscillator.

The result:
- neon will glow dim if only one wire connected
- neon will not light up if both wire fully connected
- neon will glow rather bright if one wire fully connected and other wire connected in spark gap way.
- using the spark gap only one side of the neon electrode light up.

Conclusion:
- spark gap work as switch?


The neon bulb will not light up again after few minutes and need to be rested before it give proper indication again.

I think similar way can also be applied in a spark gap powered by capacitor where the coil is placed between the capacitor and the spark gap. There should be electricity generated by the coil after the spark happen, which can be utilized with diode and load.

anyone has other opinion?

[rave154]

SAUCHAYO,

i would have to agree with you, when i was testing my 555-> ignition coil setup, i had the HV sparking to the terminals of a 240V 60 watt bulb and it produced a plasma discharge the same as those plasma globes, i also did the same with a 12V 100mA bulb and it lit ( not fully but fairly well ).....none of these effects happened with a direct connection, only with a sparking connection.

David. D

[Inquorate]

Spark

A spark is an intermediary between electricity and the aether... I suspect.

A spark is the breakdown of a dielectric, between 2 conductors, and really deserves more study than has been given to it, that I know of.

Will watch your video when I get out of hospital tomorrow Sucahyo.

Love and light

[boguslaw]

The spark gap is immaterial to radiant I think. Bedini is using for example transistors, what is needed is the knowledge about what kind of discharge is going on between spark gap or other breaking circuit device.
Exactly what Tesla noted.Exactly what Edwin Gray was saying all the time.
"Recreating the lightning."
We should put much more attention to those statements and all around.Just ask the proper questions...

[Joit]

@sucahyo
Hows about you put a Magnet between the Wires, where you make the Spark,
like some guys playing at ou.com around with?
But i hope, it doesnt burn your Bulb.

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the comment everyone .

I hope you will recover soon Ben.


If we use spark gap as switch we don't have to worry about transistor efficiency or eliminating spark in a switch since what we have to maintain is the spark.

I think when Tesla mention a on off pulse at random around 1 Mega Hertz is because of his magnetic quench spark gap. It seems if we have strong magnet around the spark gap we will get better speed. I don't have neo magnet right now unfortunately. Maybe I should buy $10 magnet for mini 4WD motor since it has the two opposite pole of magnet with pole direction perpendicular to the bend, should be perfect for this.

I just tried it with common motor magnet and all I can notice is easier/longer spark. I don't notice change in neon bulb glow.


I also do test with flourencent tube. It seems that even if there are HV glow inside the tube, it won't jump and thus do not create radiant electricity.

YouTube - Flourencent can not be used as switch

[Inquorate]

Conducting

Sucahyo, a cfl starts conducting at a certain voltage, the same way a tungsten filament conducts. Once the medium begins conducting, it is just like a piece of wire with a high resistance, hence the voltage drop.

I have a few neo magnets I can send you, just pm me your dress again.

Ps, perhaps a crude frequency meter would help; a few coils of wire attached to a 2n2222 transistor, 9 volt battery and bigger transistor, that fills a capacitor until a led lights and discharges cap thru scr..

The cap fill rate could be determined by a potentiometer, so the neon flashes regularly.

Then when you add magnets etc to the gap, if the led flashes faster, you know the frequency has increased..

I can send you all the bits if you want.

Ps, surgery went well, just a bit sore.

Love and light

[sucahyo]

Thank for the info and the offer . Nice to hear that the operation went well .

I think the magnet on spark gap experiment can be done with anyone having any spark gap. If you have aerial energy capturing system you can try to add two magnet in attraction mode to see if it make the spark go faster.

Like shown in this link, we can try to add magnet in the spark plug tip and see if it increase the frequency:
Radiant Energy Aerial Capture (REAC)

We can also do it to other kind of energy collecting capacitor dumping spark gap. But I don't think a spark gap driven by oscillator can be tested since the frequency is controlled mainly by the oscillator, this include spark gap created with any transistor and 555 chip.


If spark gap is a switch then the explanation of what Aaron post about "How to Mix High Voltage and High Current" will become different.
taken from:
http://www.energeticforum.com/61814-post1660.html



Since the spark gap act like switch, the high current LV will also get switched by the spark created by low current HV. This kind of circuit should enable us to get a very high coil collapse current without damaging the transistor since we don't use it to switch the coil, it is the spark gap job. We can try to add the coil in the LV part to avoid having the high current spike transfered to the HV circuit.

edit:
On the second thought, I think the charging do still happen. Aaron mention that the diode would not close fast enough. This is I think what happen:

Before spark:
diode prevent the HV from charging.

During spark:
diode allow LV current to also jump through the gap together with HV

after spark
there is a short moment before the diode close and abruptly stopped HV (HV coil have coil collapse current too) will try to go through the battery (charge it) because it is now the easiest way to go to the HV ground.



I have been thinking that if spark attract aether energy, we may need something more to supply the spark with something that open the door to aether. Maybe mobius coil to supply the free electron?

[sucahyo]

self sustain using spark?

Here is what I mean by Aaron circuit with coil:



I wonder if the circuit bellow will self sustain?

Once sparked, the LV part has coil collapse current, unducting the HV part and create spark and then since the spark also bridge the LV part, it become switched and make LV coil collapse current again, and continue to cycle.


left coil is LV primary, right coil is HV secondary.

oops, I don't notice that there is LV path in the HV part, the above circuit would not spark. maybe this fix bellow may work:

[boguslaw]

Thank for the info and the offer . Nice to hear that the operation went well .

I think the magnet on spark gap experiment can be done with anyone having any spark gap. If you have aerial energy capturing system you can try to add two magnet in attraction mode to see if it make the spark go faster.

Like shown in this link, we can try to add magnet in the spark plug tip and see if it increase the frequency:
Radiant Energy Aerial Capture (REAC)

We can also do it to other kind of energy collecting capacitor dumping spark gap. But I don't think a spark gap driven by oscillator can be tested since the frequency is controlled mainly by the oscillator, this include spark gap created with any transistor and 555 chip.


If spark gap is a switch then the explanation of what Aaron post about "How to Mix High Voltage and High Current" will become different.
taken from:
http://www.energeticforum.com/61814-post1660.html



Since the spark gap act like switch, the high current LV will also get switched by the spark created by low current HV. This kind of circuit should enable us to get a very high coil collapse current without damaging the transistor since we don't use it to switch the coil, it is the spark gap job. We can try to add the coil in the LV part to avoid having the high current spike transfered to the HV circuit.

edit:
On the second thought, I think the charging do still happen. Aaron mention that the diode would not close fast enough. This is I think what happen:

Before spark:
diode prevent the HV from charging.

During spark:
diode allow LV current to also jump through the gap together with HV

after spark
there is a short moment before the diode close and abruptly stopped HV (HV coil have coil collapse current too) will try to go through the battery (charge it) because it is now the easiest way to go to the HV ground.



I have been thinking that if spark attract aether energy, we may need something more to supply the spark with something that open the door to aether. Maybe mobius coil to supply the free electron?

Spark gap can create radiant energy but it's not because of spark gap itself. Spark gap is only switch. Switch AC and you have RF, switch pure unidirectional DC and you have radiant energy.

[sucahyo]

Spark gap can create radiant energy but it's not because of spark gap itself. Spark gap is only switch. Switch AC and you have RF, switch pure unidirectional DC and you have radiant energy.

What is the problem with spark gap as switch that I never see anyone use it to get coil collapse current?

[dR-Green]

Hi sucahyo. I don't know if this is related, I just found this thread on google while searching for using a neon bulb as a spark gap, but I've been using this circuit to drive a flyback transformer...



The coil winding represents the flyback primary. I have a capacitor across the secondary with a spark gap, going into a Tesla coil. Using BUX81 transistors, when the gap gets a bit too big the neon across the emitter and collector comes on, similar to when there's no charging battery connected to an SSG. The gap continues to spark, but it looks like it's not transferring all the energy, or the transformer is being pulsed faster than the gap is discharging, so the spike is coming back into the flyback's primary and causing the neon to come on.

From memory, 2N3055 transistors allowed a bigger gap before the neon came on. But I can't be sure, I'm going to do transistor tests now. I also just remembered that I was using a much lower frequency opto-isolator than I'm using now, so maybe that's also got something to do with it.

[Dave45]

Antimatter Spacecraft Propulsion The Future Is Now - YouTube

maybe a spark gap inside a inductor or close to the exterior

[sucahyo]

dR-Green. My post is about the possibility to use spark gap as switch. But as I see now, there is big problem. The spark will also drain any excess energy contained in the coil.


Neon on your circuit as as high voltage waster. When the voltage get high, the neon lit. Because the neon bulb require high voltage to lit, it will not lit at low voltage.

I consider 2N3055 to be worse choice for coil switching application. I found the cheaper TIP41C to be better.

I consider optocoupler may prevent good switching.


Thanks for the videoo Dave45. I am thinking of mercury switch. I have one but still too affraid to use it for high current switching.......

[MonsieurM]

Here is a hint given to us by nature:

Signature of Antimatter Detected in Lightning | Wired Science | Wired.com

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Designed to scan the heavens thousands to billions of light-years beyond the solar system, the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope has now recorded some more down-to-Earth signals. During its first 14 months of operation, the flying observatory has detected 17 gamma-ray flashes associated with terrestrial lightning storms.