Taking Down a Nation | Nikki Alexander

[Peter Lindemann]

Hi Guys,

This new website has a great article on it concerning recent financial history, global banking, and the direction of current events. I highly recommend you read it.

Nikki Alexander

Peter

[thedude]

Its reality.

Hi Peter. It does seem that things have fallen out of democratic hands. Another good resource along this subject matter is available on youtube called ZEITGEIST II ADDENDUM, although i will add that it is more speculative than the factual nature of the article you submitted here.
I have spent countless hours fretting over these issues and i'm left with a helpless notion that so much of what really takes place in this world can scarcely be realized, let alone affected by the average person. In a much similar way our technology has also been controlled by the same institutions that align themselves with these "world order" objectives.

If we are discussing issues of a global society, how does this translate to an outside observer (extraplanetary)? Does our economic globalization signify a symbolic unity of the people of this planet? I have a strong belief that we are in constant contact with beings of other systems and that the average person is meant to be in complete ignorance of upcoming events of the not so far away future. Are the objectives of the "New world order" to gain control of this planets greatest resources prior to the culmination of global disorder? I can only speculate. I hope that i'm not becoming a paranoid conspiricy theorist, but the more i look around, the more subversion i see, and the more convinced i become that we are at the brink of change, like it or not. I just hope that who ever is driving this bus has a plan for its passengers!

[h20power]

It seems the you have just become awhere that the "North American Union" is something real. The way I see it it will take another civil war to get America back to Constitutional form of government once again. Why? The control of the flow of infomation is so evolved thanks to "Edward Bernays." Our mass media is nothing more than something for enterainment purposes. When the US does fall I feel it will be with the full suport of the controled masses that make it up, for they just won't know any better.

The anervirsery of 9/11 just pasted and not a pep of the thermidic material found in the dust from all three world trade center buildings that fell that day. We were all sold the lie of the evil terrorest and went on a killing spree that has not ended to this date.

But the true purpose of these wars is to break the back of America and at the same time consolidate the worlds resourses and wipe out the middle around the world when the dollar falls. Plus decease the worlds population at the same time.

Times are going to get hard and popaganda will be thrown at you from every angle to control your mind so you do what your told. The only want obeiante workers all the free thinkers they have a plan for us too and I don't think any of us are going to like it.

Energy independence will go a long ways towards fighting the system that might be in place in these hard times ahead of us.


h2opower

[SkyWatcher]

And the positive is?

Hi Peter, so I assume you will be offering solutions as well, I know full well what they've been up to, I sure hope more people wake up to it as well, no make that everyone. Have you heard of something called N.E.S.A.R.A. (National Economic Security & Reformation Act). It was supposed to reestablish common law and apply it in the proper context=for the people. nesara.us is the site. I remember you saying in a lecture video "I have no sympathy for the bankers, god bless them". I agree, they need massive blessings to wake up themselves. I guess they like other ones have to learn that LOVE is the most powerful force in creation and in fact is all there is. NO THING would exist without it. For what it's worth.
peace love light
Tyson
edit: just noticed your post h2opower, How do you know there is not an uplifting alternative plan parallel to the destructive one. Try to keep a positive vision, obviously they've done a good job at manipulating people to lessen that alternative vision. I say the world will shift to an abundant, truly free and peaceful place to live. Whats the point in thinking otherwise.

[Shamus]

All I have to say about this subject is that all money systems are systems of slavery. This is not hyperbole; it's easily verifiable by looking at objective facts. If we were ever allowed to have energy independence we could throw off the shackles once and for all but I doubt the people at the top of the food chain will allow it willingly. Personally, I don't care if they like it or not and so my stand against them is to leave no stone unturned in searching for simple and practical ways to achieve energy independence.

@Tyson: It's true that ideas are very powerful and if I were a part of this 'New World Odor' (which is really just the same old stench we've had lingering in the air for hundreds if not thousands of years) I'd be afraid of them too. We've all been sold the lie that our ideas are worthless, and only the sanctified, well schooled holy priesthood in white lab coats can have any ideas of any consequence. And optimism is good, but it doesn't mean that you don't have to watch your back.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi shamus, I agree ideally we would not want to have money since it is an intermediary tool of control, of course in this case its fiat and not even backed by anything of value, therefore the man with the ink printing machine rules which makes it all the more problematic. That is my point my shamus, they want us to be afraid of our own shadow, so it's easier to divide and conquer. We are immortal souls, the sooner people remember this the better. Love is the way. Anything less will give the same results as you speak of "(which is really just the same old stench we've had lingering in the air for hundreds if not thousands of years)". People can choose fear and watch there backs, but it will result in the same thing. Choose wisely.
peace love light
Tyson

[Shamus]

Hi Tyson,

I'm not espousing fear here, just common sense. It's not fear that causes me to look both ways when crossing the street but self-preservation. Maybe I should have said, "Keep your eyes open"?

Having said that, I know that there are a lot of new-age religions (which in reality are old, old, old) that say that you should never look at the negative, and this plays into the 'Odors That Be' methodology for control; it's a way to neutralize one's own built-in sense of self-preservation. I don't know if that's what you're talking about here, but it's something to consider.

[h20power]

In order for us to get back to the Constitution is going to take more than just protesting, calling or emailing our respresentatives. Just take the big bailout for example roughly 98% didn't want it and they pushed it through anyways, stealing from our childrens future.

The reason I say civil war is it is becoming clear to me the those who belive in the BS story of 9/11 do so with blind faith that they feel the need to kill for, so out of self preservation I must prepare to defend myself. Trust me I wish there was another way but war has already at our doorsteps as all of our rights are being taken away one by one. People don't seem to care that we are killing people around the world for no reason at all since it is all based on a lie. Now the dead man Osama speeks from the grave with a tape recording as those really responseable for the mass killings plan to kill again, will it be your city this time or mine?

If we do manage to win this war the constitution needs to have some changes that ensure that people that get caught comiting treason get put to death I our political system, the corperate voice has to be nullified, and the Fed bank taken down. Taxes to be done the right way, factional banking practices ended, end the free trade act for it is any but free, and so much more needs to be done. Any that I have just mentioned is going to take war to get set right and anyone reading this knows it.

Like I said before I wish I was wrong about all of this and there was another way. I will keep hope ailve that there is another way, but when someone says I should be put to death for not beliving the lie of 9/11 it doesn't look good. I took an oath to protect this nation against all enemies. Maybe I will just give up and let her fall without a fight move out and far away from the future of her demise.


h2opower

Hi Peter, so I assume you will be offering solutions as well, I know full well what they've been up to, I sure hope more people wake up to it as well, no make that everyone. Have you heard of something called N.E.S.A.R.A. (National Economic Security & Reformation Act). It was supposed to reestablish common law and apply it in the proper context=for the people. nesara.us is the site. I remember you saying in a lecture video "I have no sympathy for the bankers, god bless them". I agree, they need massive blessings to wake up themselves. I guess they like other ones have to learn that LOVE is the most powerful force in creation and in fact is all there is. NO THING would exist without it. For what it's worth.
peace love light
Tyson
edit: just noticed your post h2opower, How do you know there is not an uplifting alternative plan parallel to the destructive one. Try to keep a positive vision, obviously they've done a good job at manipulating people to lessen that alternative vision. I say the world will shift to an abundant, truly free and peaceful place to live. Whats the point in thinking otherwise.

[CosmicFarmer]

yay now were all terrorists (Ahem.. Freedom Fighters) for talking about this.

I agree. Things are getting shaken up. But also realize every modicum of communication you say do or read is used against you, and once you get enough red flags, watch out!! Speaking and asking of civil war could either be discerned as a realist view or an extremist view, depending on who is paying the analyst.

We should focus on the inventions and ideas of positive change instead of ... obviously what is going to happen. YES its all funny-munny. YES money is the source of most evil. YES people can just make it at a factory and YES other people kill each other for it... but its up to you how you use it while it still has value.

Its like standing under a gigantic falling piano and telling each other over and over again its going to hit us, instead of making something to protect us from the said falling piano.

I agree with manifestation. I go to this forum to try to manifest the positive in my life and others. To come up with new ideas of ultimately self preservation, and possibly to teach and share with fellow sheeple who wont wake up even when slapped. Ok let them sleep. I'll just be there with answers when the time comes. Now I am to study and replicate what I can. Also to avoid violence. "Those who live by the sword die by the sword" - so I can agree with people protesting and fighting back but I also know this isnt my path as it leads to destruction.

I am very concerned about discussing what REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE to the people in charge... Maybe we can lighten this thread up, and since this topic isnt specifically about renewable energy, I advise people to not become mind-thought criminals.

If you really want to talk about this stuff, godlikeproductions has a forum full of ranters and ravers.

Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum

[h20power]

I agree for anyone that knows how to read between the lines my last sentance says it all. It means, "why should I go to the front lines to do battle when those I am battling for are aiming at my back?" Like I said earlier energy independence will a long ways at correcting the problem or fighting them peacefully.

In the one thread I posted on this site I gave away how Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology works for the betterment of humanity so the world can be a better place for all that live on it. So I don't wish for war but the powers that be have been breaking eggs in a oneway path, now this is a two way street so eggs have to be broken both ways to keep things in balance.

Yeah I was called a terrorist on 9/11 while protesting the offical story of that dreadfull day.


h2opower.

yay now were all terrorists (Ahem.. Freedom Fighters) for talking about this.

I agree. Things are getting shaken up. But also realize every modicum of communication you say do or read is used against you, and once you get enough red flags, watch out!! Speaking and asking of civil war could either be discerned as a realist view or an extremist view, depending on who is paying the analyst.

We should focus on the inventions and ideas of positive change instead of ... obviously what is going to happen. YES its all funny-munny. YES money is the source of most evil. YES people can just make it at a factory and YES other people kill each other for it... but its up to you how you use it while it still has value.

Its like standing under a gigantic falling piano and telling each other over and over again its going to hit us, instead of making something to protect us from the said falling piano.

I agree with manifestation. I go to this forum to try to manifest the positive in my life and others. To come up with new ideas of ultimately self preservation, and possibly to teach and share with fellow sheeple who wont wake up even when slapped. Ok let them sleep. I'll just be there with answers when the time comes. Now I am to study and replicate what I can. Also to avoid violence. "Those who live by the sword die by the sword" - so I can agree with people protesting and fighting back but I also know this isnt my path as it leads to destruction.

I am very concerned about discussing what REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE to the people in charge... Maybe we can lighten this thread up, and since this topic isnt specifically about renewable energy, I advise people to not become mind-thought criminals.

If you really want to talk about this stuff, godlikeproductions has a forum full of ranters and ravers.

Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum

[Allcanadian]

@CosmicFarmer

I agree. Things are getting shaken up. But also realize every modicum of communication you say do or read is used against you, and once you get enough red flags, watch out!! Speaking and asking of civil war could either be discerned as a realist view or an extremist view, depending on who is paying the analyst.

This is nothing more than fear mongering, have you ever heard the saying "there is nothing to fear but fear itself " another good one is " Anyone willing to sacrifice freedom for safety deserves neither ". I for one will say whatever I want to whoever I want with no fear of doing so, If someone wants to punish me for this then I will deal with that if and when it happens. I am a responsible adult as such I will act accordingly.

I am very concerned about discussing what REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE to the people in charge... Maybe we can lighten this thread up, and since this topic isnt specifically about renewable energy, I advise people to not become mind-thought criminals.

To be quite honest I think what needs to happen is for people to grow up, lol, for example at which point did it become unacceptable for a responsible adult to speak his or her mind? Answer--never, this self inflicted fear people have is just that--self inflicted. I have found most people respect any person who is willing to stand up for their beliefs--right or wrong, but few if any respect a coward. I think what needs to happen is that the people supposedly "in charge" need to be held accountable for their actions by responsible adults who are not afraid to speak their minds and act on their thoughts.
Regards
AC

[Matthew Jones]

Nonsense Garbage...

Its funny these topics even come up here.

Renewable Energy (196 Viewing)
Discussion on various alternative energy, renewable energy, & free energy technologies. Also any discussion about the environment, global warming, and other related topics are welcome here.

I guess since they don't have a section for

Paranoia, Conspiracy, and General Schizophrenic Mindsets (0 Viewing)
Discussion on various conspiracies and the fatality they present. Hi cabal and military industrialist endeavors to rule the world, Slavery of the masses, Impoverishment of the poor and middle class democratic Societies by the Elitist International Tycoon cooperations and banking industries, and other related topics are welcome here.

You'll have to continue to post this kind of Nonsense garbage.

I can't say whether or not the article is true or not, but the truth is I don't care.
!!MY FUTURE IS IN MY HANDS!! Because I work hard for it. Every day My family and I grow closer to financial independence, energy independence,
and general Independence from society altogether. Because that was the goal we set for ourselves.
We can grow our own food, light our lights, heat our homes and raise the next generation, because we worked HARD, and let nothing and no one get in our way.

The general mindset that anybody else is oppressed from doing the same especially in West is JUST SICKENING.

My only advice to people who even relish the idea that someone else has control over you is to get your head out your ass and try on a little sweat, long hours and dedication to your goals.

And while your at it keep this nonsense off this board. Try to help people around hear keep their eye on the ball and get these devices they steady pursue off the bench and into market or practical use.

Set some goals and get them done.

And if you need help ask for it!!

Matt

[thedude]

holy crap Matt!

You'll have to continue to post this kind of Nonsense garbage.

I can't say whether or not the article is true or not, but the truth is I don't care.
!!MY FUTURE IS IN MY HANDS!! Because I work hard for it. Every day My family and I grow closer to financial independence, energy independence,
and general Independence from society altogether. Because that was the goal we set for ourselves.
We can grow our own food, light our lights, heat our homes and raise the next generation, because we worked HARD, and let nothing and no one get in our way.

Matt. There is definately a correlative line of thought that applies to this discussion thread and it's being here in the renewable energy category. You said it yourself.

"Also any discussion about the environment, global warming, and other related topics are welcome here."

If you can honestly say that energy and technology have not been adversely affected by the controlling hand of the federal government and the private reserve that feeds it, then your not really considering the full spectrum of issues involved in this discussion.

I applaud your independant endeavors for you and your familly. I too have the same aspirations. We are talking about huge problems that are truly on the rise and are going unchecked. The average person has not a clue how to become energy independant from society and relies on fair treatment from their governments to provide an infastructure by which they may survive. What about them?

This thread may seem misplaced to you, but to me it shows me that there is a concern for the future of our society. The same concern that i have had for some time now. I am reading everyone's posts with interest and i'm finding it comforting to hear others with the same concern. There are HUGE parallels with regard to the disinformation of technology and what is taking place with our economic infastructure as we speak. I am realizing why i enjoy reading here so much and it is because i see that there are people here who have taken their blinders off. Please don't try to put a lid on free thinking.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi Allcanadian, liked what you posted.
Hi Matthew Jones, what you say about putting your nose to the grindstone is ok, however the whole point of this thread is the fact that our time and energy is being stolen by these systems of slavery they have setup around us to steal that time and energy. If you choose to be a slave then thats your choice, otherwise change the channel and dont read this thread and go about your life believing what you like. I say this only to honor your freewill choice.
you said quote "And while your at it keep this nonsense off this board. Try to help people around hear keep their eye on the ball and get these devices they steady pursue off the bench and into market or practical use."
Matthew thats the whole problem, What thedude is saying and many others like asweth is that the inventions have already been invented, they have been suppressed in various ways to prevent masses from using them. Again you are free to believe what you like, I would review what and why you believe anything and goes for me as well.
peace love light
Tyson

[HMS-776]

The New World Order is what we're up against now.

If you do your research you'll find the following people have openly talked about the New World Order.

President Clinton
President Bush Senior
President Obama
Henry Kissinger
David Rockefeller (Autobiography, MEMOIRS page 405)
and many, many more.

They brag about their plans, And thy're plans are so horrible that the people today ignore them, and don't believe them. We are facing the signs of the times. Just as Revelations mentions all nations will be controlled by the beast.

Evil people are always attracted to politics because of the potential power.

These people are evil....