Space Time Energy Absorption Pump

[sturgeon]

You missed the p from http Michael, this should work;

YouTube - centraflow's Channel

Cheers,

s.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

htt://www.youtube.com/user/centraflowYouTube - centraflow's Channel

I have now found out to put the link in,

silly me
Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

contrary to electrical science

This effect is contrary to electrical science were it states that with switching only you can not put energy into a circuit. This has just been proven wrong, all be it only 50-60mv on this set up.

The important thing is L1 must be as big an impedance as possible.

Mike

[quantumuppercut]

Micheal,

I might have bad news. The replication shows effect as you describe it, but I find that it is due to the magnetic field created by the relay coil. To see this, you can short 1 wire to the switch and observe the voltage. I found it went even higher. It does not means that the effect is not there, it is just overide by the relay coil magnetic field. Even if it's the bad news, the good new is... we got wireless electricity

[Tecstatic]

I connected my SG coax center wire to the outer pin of L1, and I tuned my signal generator to 45kHz 10Vpp square wave. Just this single wire is connected from the SG to L1.

Here I got max output, 67Vpp on L3.
I guess this does not generate much external magnetic fields like the coil described in post from quantumuppercut.

Eric

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Tests by JLN 1997

Micheal,

I might have bad news. The replication shows effect as you describe it, but I find that it is due to the magnetic field created by the relay coil. To see this, you can short 1 wire to the switch and observe the voltage. I found it went even higher. It does not means that the effect is not there, it is just overide by the relay coil magnetic field. Even if it's the bad news, the good new is... we got wireless electricity

Here is the test done by JLN in 1997
Mike

[witsend]

Hi Mike. Thanks for the video. it was very clear. Definitely 5 stars. I couldn't open it at first but got there eventually.

Very interesting hypothesis. I'd love to see what happens under load. We did a similar principle switching at either side of the input sine wave. Also saw gains but had great difficulty proving it. Reduced frequency - obviously - as we simply used the mains supply. But a similar principle and similar result being a sine wave but twice.

But well done for finding this test and putting it out there. Would love to see the follow up videos on this.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Thanks Rosemary for you kind words.

We all know how difficult it is to prove these things and at the moment I do not have a scope as mine was old and gave up the ghost after two decades of abuse

With a scope you can prove this circuit as I have posted above the test done by JLN and he really knows his stuff.

By increasing L1 you will increase the power.

I was speaking to Luc and he did some experiments for me and we did see on one the pure sine wave produced and around 50mv as I record.

Well the next video will be with a modest energy input of around 12v and 100-200ma and an output of between 750v and 1500v charging a .95micro farad cap rated at 2100v etc etc etc.

I have been thinking of a rodin coil with a third pick up coil, but I will have to make one as I do not have one here ready made, could be very interesting as this type of coil seems to draw less current the more load you put on it. This has been found on the rodin coil thread here on the forum.

Lots to experiment with, this also comes into my other thread, of which at the moment I am having a battle with my EE whom designed the cicuit on my outline and now does not want the thing published, he thinks he can make money out of it, 31years old and wants to be a millionaire

Well I will keep you posted

Mike

[witsend]

Thanks Rosemary for you kind words.

We all know how difficult it is to prove these things and at the moment I do not have a scope as mine was old and gave up the ghost after two decades of abuse

With a scope you can prove this circuit as I have posted above the test done by JLN and he really knows his stuff.

I have been thinking of a rodin coil with a third pick up coil, but I will have to make one as I do not have one here ready made, could be very interesting as this type of coil seems to draw less current the more load you put on it. This has been found on the rodin coil thread here on the forum.

Mike

Come on Mike. You are one of the few of us who can afford good instruments. Personally I recommend a Tektronix TDS 3054C number??

I think I'll be accused of spamming if I carry on like this.

And I love the idea of putting it on a pancake coil. I'm so intrigued with them. There's plenty in this forum on how to construct one. Not sure of the link right now. But it's all here.

[quantumuppercut]

I connected my SG coax center wire to the outer pin of L1, and I tuned my signal generator to 45kHz 10Vpp square wave. Just this single wire is connected from the SG to L1.

Here I got max output, 67Vpp on L3.
I guess this does not generate much external magnetic fields like the coil described in post from quantumuppercut.

Eric

Thanks, sounds good. It is just my relay then.

[marxist]

cause of the effect !?

Hi Mike,

thanks for making the video.

Searching for an explanation of the effect, it struck me that the transformer core actually is under the influence of the earth magnetic field.

I mean to say that we often are not aware, that any piece of iron on earth - such as the core of the trafo - is always a magnet, i.e. it is magnetized at all times, as a result of being located in the earth magnetic field.

Yes, obviously the resulting magnetization of the iron core will be of very low field strength.

However, in order to find out whether this magnetization of the core is negligible and does not cause the shown effect nor contribute to it, I propose the following test:
Those who have the gear may want to lay the transformer flat on its side (instead of having it standing upright, as in your video).
I think the achievable output voltage will then depend on how the transformer is aligned relative to the earth magnetic field.
According to my theory, the output voltage should react/vary, while the relay is switching, when the transformer is manually turned horizontally while lying on its side.
I mean while turning it slowly from being oriented north-south towards east-west.

I have not tried this.

Just in case someone undertakes the proposed experiment, please also be aware, that the earth magnetic field at most locations is not simply oriented 'north-south in a straight horizontal line' but mostly at a steep inclination (up/down) of ca. 60 degrees.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

exact relay triggering is inportant

I connected my SG coax center wire to the outer pin of L1, and I tuned my signal generator to 45kHz 10Vpp square wave. Just this single wire is connected from the SG to L1.

Here I got max output, 67Vpp on L3.
I guess this does not generate much external magnetic fields like the coil described in post from quantumuppercut.

Eric

Thanks Eric for doing that.

I have found that when using a relay that it is important that the relay is good for triggering at the frequencies we are using, it has to make and break cleanly. If not you will generate noise which transmits through the cable and into the circuit. With a scope you will see this as Luc and I saw on a setup that Luc was kind to do for me.

By using a fet to switch, the wave was a pure sine wave, but also there might have been a bleed through of the mosfet, but it did not explain why, in the case of a bleed through, that we ended up with this sine wave when the mosfet was switched with a square wave

Well after the fet Luc changed to a relay and we saw a lot of noise, but by changing the frequancy we could see the sine wave as a ghost behind the noise, and that is why I have come to the conclusion that the relay must be in a good condition for the frequency used or it will mask the effect.

The best is a reed relay as used by JLN. The result on a scope should be a sine wave with NO DC component and that will show that we are not getting a magnetic effect from the switching.

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Hi Mike,

thanks for making the video.

Searching for an explanation of the effect, it struck me that the transformer core actually is under the influence of the earth magnetic field.

I mean to say that we often are not aware, that any piece of iron on earth - such as the core of the trafo - is always a magnet, i.e. it is magnetized at all times, as a result of being located in the earth magnetic field.

Yes, obviously the resulting magnetization of the iron core will be of very low field strength.

However, in order to find out whether this magnetization of the core is negligible and does not cause the shown effect nor contribute to it, I propose the following test:
Those who have the gear may want to lay the transformer flat on its side (instead of having it standing upright, as in your video).
I think the achievable output voltage will then depend on how the transformer is aligned relative to the earth magnetic field.
According to my theory, the output voltage should react/vary, while the relay is switching, when the transformer is manually turned horizontally while lying on its side.
I mean while turning it slowly from being oriented north-south towards east-west.

I have not tried this.

Just in case someone undertakes the proposed experiment, please also be aware, that the earth magnetic field at most locations is not simply oriented 'north-south in a straight horizontal line' but mostly at a steep inclination (up/down) of ca. 60 degrees.

Hi Marxist, this is a good idea and I will try this when I get the time after the forthcoming vids. It was noticed by JLN that it did not work without an iron core or ferrite core.

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Come on Mike. You are one of the few of us who can afford good instruments. Personally I recommend a Tektronix TDS 3054C number??

I think I'll be accused of spamming if I carry on like this.

And I love the idea of putting it on a pancake coil. I'm so intrigued with them. There's plenty in this forum on how to construct one. Not sure of the link right now. But it's all here.

Rosemary, I would love a Tektronix TDS 3054C, but at 8000euros or so it will have to wait.

After two divorces I have gone from millionaire in 1998 to zero in 2000 and now after 9yrs of very hard work I have put myself back on my feet, but in a modest way, and in fact happier

As far as a new scope, I am thinking of a computer add on like Luc is using, it will do for me, and an add on SG if there is one for computors!

Mike

[witsend]

As far as a new scope, I am thinking of a computer add on like Luc is using, it will do for me, and an add on SG if there is one for computors!

Mike

Hi Mike. I do apologise here. I really was only joking. It's hardly my business what scope you get. Just delighted with the experiment in this thread. How are the follow ups coming on?

And what's happened about your hot water number? Is that on hold - or are you patenting? It's always a pleasure to hear that people can make money on energy savings both from the innovative production of devices and the application of those devices. A win win.

Again - apologies for the presumption in advising you. I was entirely out of line.