Space Time Energy Absorption Pump

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Another test

Hi all

just done another test, no video yet, but very interesting

Removed the power coil and connected the 5w 12v bulb in its place, tuned up the circuit to give 12v and full light, duty is about 30%

Amp draw 240ma but the bulb would normally draw 417ma if connected to the battery, but here it is drawing 240-30=210ma

Am I missing something

Mike

[Harvey]

Hi Mike,

Referring to this drawing:


It is unclear as to whether or not the PWM is open collector or raises to a potential at or above 12V. The 'AV Plug' then is exposed as two diodes back to back? The phase differential referred to over on Rosemary's thread then is relative to the zero volt point at the negative terminal of the 120V cap; correct?

In this configuration, your lower output tap will have a 12v bias relative to zero while your upper output tap will be at a bias determined by the voltage division of the load and PWM output supply value - if any. The inner windings themselves are in opposition to their respective outer windings which they are tied to - i.e. inverse phase relationship. This creates a magnetic standing wave in the middle space between each pair (not the center of the four). Some may refer to this standing wave as a scaler wave as it is pinned in space-time and only changes in amplitude while being physically disconnected from the circuit. Interestingly, I would have expected the capacitor to be across the load for a resonant mode, but instead it seems to provide the bypass path needed to cause the lower two coils to function as a primary when the PWM transitions from high to low. In this case the rest of the circuit is somewhat static while the primary magnetic field builds - with the exception that current will flow through the loads and the upper two coils, but the current there is reduced compared to the lower two coils. This only lasts as long as that negative spike through the capacitor allows. When the field collapses, it charges the lower half of the capacitor from some of the BEMF while the rest of the energy is transformed into the other two coils which now act as a secondary in a flyback mode. There is already a small current flowing through the upper two coils at this time, and the induced fields from the flyback will operate to counter that flow which is ongoing even after the flyback pulse occurs, as the PWM low will be much longer in duration. This creates a unique situation that raises the voltage potential on the upper output tap, temporarily staving off the discharge of the capacitor through the load and secondary windings. Then that positive spike at the upper output will discharge itself through the upper windings which now act as a primary. All of this during the PWM low period. When the PWM transitions from low to high, the small current that has been flowing through the entire circuit, - the two lower coils, the parallel load, and then the two upper coils - , abruptly ceases flowing. The smaller magnetic fields collapse and are allowed to resonate with the capacitor and dissipate in the loads.

If you know the number of windings and the diameter and thickness of those four coils, we could calculate the inductance relatively close because they do appear to be circular. The inductance of your loads will be a little harder as the shape is rectangular on the microwave primary coil and the filament changes inductance with temperature due to expansion. However, if you have a frequency counter and a capacitor of an accurately known value, you can remove those two items from the circuit and test them independently. By changing the frequency through the series (the known capacitor and inductor under test) while monitoring the voltage at their junction relative to the low side of your frequency source (probably your PWM in this case) you can find the frequency that produces the greatest amplitude. This will be the resonant frequency of the capacitor and inductor. From that, we can calculate the inductance.

On a side note here: Referring to your very first schematic in this thread. Did you ever try attaching an output coil to the 240V tap and using that as a magnetic source to pull in the reed switch? If the gains were greater than the losses, it may have self run. Even priming the coil with a magnet could have proven useful in this case. Just thinking out loud here.

Cheers,

[Tecstatic]

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Am I missing something

Maybe...

As I see it, you kill the resonance with the load.

I would use the last circuit you posted (as shown by Harvey above).

In the document:

http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/RE-OU-v6_1.pdf

on page 50 the bottom diagram, consider the transformer secondary as your power coil.

Besides C1 and C2, have a third capacitor C3 parallel to the power coil.

C1 = C2
C3 = 2 * C1

Then at each half cycle the power coil "sees" the C3 in parallel with either C1 or C2.

Of cause the whole circuit must be optimized for resonance.

It may be worth the effort..

Alternatively you could dimension the circuit for a higher frequency and connect an "L3" like used in Dr.Stifflers SEC exciter, dimensioned for the frequency, and drive a bunch of LEDs with an AV plug.

Note the Ferro resonance text at the bottom of page 50.

"Ferro resonance is a complex electrical phenomenon, which is characterized by the sudden onset of very high sustained overvoltages concurrent with high levels of harmonic distortion."

compare this with Dr.Stifflers explanation:

"The polyphasing transformer is of a Theta core design and is made from a material that saturates at a desired saturation point."

What you have is then a powerful wide band exciter...

Just my two cents...

Eric

[Michael John Nunnerley]

On a side note here: Referring to your very first schematic in this thread. Did you ever try attaching an output coil to the 240V tap and using that as a magnetic source to pull in the reed switch? If the gains were greater than the losses, it may have self run. Even priming the coil with a magnet could have proven useful in this case. Just thinking out loud here.

Cheers,

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Hi Harvey,

Thanks for looking at this and sorry I have not come back to you sooner but I have had a few bad days, dizzy spells, I hope it is not from what I am doing

As to the last part of trying to feed back the first circuit that I showed, which is in fact J L Naudins circuit, I am looking at a coil that I have which is 3v from a relay and looking to use this. May be I will not get enough voltage to give me sufficient field to pull in the reed sw, we will see.

Now I did try this with a 240v coil and a 1.2v ni-cad in the line and I had to use a magnet to get it going, and did she go, 334v on the 240v tapping and sending spikes back to the battery as I could see the switch arcing. By moving the magnet I could change the frequency and in doing so the arcing could be eliminated.This needs much more investigation.

On the other circuit the mosfet is switching clean, when tuning with some loads I can bring down the duty to about a 20% on so as to give me the lowest amp draw, on others it is running at 50%. I have to play around with the duty and frequency as when changing the duty the frequency shifts as well. With a 4.2w input I have run a 7w flourescent to full light via a 240v-12v transformer in reverse, and to tune this the duty is about 20%.

Going to build Rosemarys circuit to switch this with its own supply and remove the diodes to see if I can put some power back into the battery, will be interesting.

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Self running?????????

Hi all and Harvey in particular,

Harvey thanks for the idea of possible self running.

I have done what you said with a coil and a reed switch but on the last circuit of the STEAP. The PWM is replaced with the reed and the coil is connected to the output of the phasing transformer and on to a 240v/12-0-12v transformer in reverse. The 240v side is going to a full bridge with a 2200mf cap and then back to the battery.

I have put 6 X leds in series which amounts to 120ma draw on the battery.

The relay and coil is activated with a very low field magnet and positioned to give the best frequency for current draw and voltage out put.

The battery was at rest with 11.79v as I have not charged it up lately. After some 30min, maybe more, the RUN voltage on the battery is 11.80v and still running as I type this.

Now taking into consideration the losses with the circuit and the load of leds, why is the battery voltage going up I am going to leave it run over night and tomorrow I will design a transistor switch to replace the coil and reed which should increase the efficiency with less amp draw in relation to the coil.

If anybody has an idea for this transistor please post it, it must have a means of changing the frequency as there is a sweet spot as I have seen with moving the magnet.

If all goes well I will post a video

Mike

[Tecstatic]

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Hi Harvey,

Thanks for looking at this and sorry I have not come back to you sooner but I have had a few bad days, dizzy spells, I hope it is not from what I am doing

Hi Mike

I have experienced a headache that lasted a week for me, after working with Dr.Stifflers circuits.

If you continue to experience this problem, make a tower like Dr.Stiffler describes, but you have to dimension the tower to the fundamental frequency of your circuit.

Then this tower can offer you light, while it offloads your head from receiving energy more than you like.

Dr.Stiffler has a construction guide, and a document on how to measure the spatial resonance of the coil.

This works fine for me.

Eric

[sucahyo]

The battery was at rest with 11.79v as I have not charged it up lately. After some 30min, maybe more, the RUN voltage on the battery is 11.80v and still running as I type this.

I experience it more extreme though. During 600mA load my 12V 7Ah SLA jump it RUN voltage from 9.5 Volts to 12V after 1 or two minutes. I guess this is the sign of bad battery cell.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

uploading a new video

Hi all

I am uploading a new video of the STEAP circuit running off a 12v battery and self charging.

Should be up in about 4hrs, will post link when I have it


Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

video link

Hi all

video link:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTQWaWhvCI

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

link not working

the link is not working, just go to centraflow's channel

Mike

[DrStiffler]

Hi all

I am uploading a new video of the STEAP circuit running off a 12v battery and self charging.

Should be up in about 4hrs, will post link when I have it


Mike

@Mike

This sounds great, now to determine if it is really self charging or just a good high efficiency, replace the battery with like a 2F capacitor and charge it to the initial voltage of what your battery would be. Disconnect the charging supply and let it run. If the voltage increases on the capacitor you have a winner, otherwise, well you know the answer to that.

By the way the video link or the channel info seems both to not work.

[gotoluc]

Hi Michael and all,

Below is the link to your new video.

Link:YouTube - STEAP circuit self running



Added: Here is a frequency spectrum of your circuit. You have that reed relay vibrating at about 5,500Hz. Good job my friend




Thanks for sharing your circuit test and results Michael

One thing that comes to mind (from a past experience) is your battery being below its normal operating voltage range could be causing this fast voltage rise which maybe only a surface charge that does not hold under load. You may want to recharge your battery and make sure it holds a charge above 12.5 volts.

I'm not saying this to discourage you as I want your circuit to succeed

You could also try a pre-charged capacitor and it instead of the battery and see if it self runs.

Wishing you the best

Luc

[Inquorate]

Video

I can't get the video to load on youtube. Anyone else having trouble?

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Thank you

@Mike

This sounds great, now to determine if it is really self charging or just a good high efficiency, replace the battery with like a 2F capacitor and charge it to the initial voltage of what your battery would be. Disconnect the charging supply and let it run. If the voltage increases on the capacitor you have a winner, otherwise, well you know the answer to that.

By the way the video link or the channel info seems both to not work.

Thank you Dr. Stiffler, I hope I am not stepping on your toes as it has been pointed out to me that this is very similar to what you were working on in the 90's. This idea I came across on a paper that JL Naudin was doing and this is what I have come up with after replicating his switching circuit with no input and created a voltage, all be it very small, but it worked.

Yes I agree with you that a cap would be the test, at the moment I do not have a 2Farad cap, I suppose I could bank up a load of caps, but that is far from ideal. May be I could make my own, I will have to look into that. First I want to change the reed switch with a low current draw tansistor switch with variable frequency, do you have any ideas on a circuit? help would be appreciated, you are the man. I did think of using the oscillator part of your sec circuit!

Thank you again for your comments, any help is welcome

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I can't get the video to load on youtube. Anyone else having trouble?

Use the link that Luc posted, I do not know why some are having problems

Mike