Space Time Energy Absorption Pump

[Tecstatic]

I can't get the video to load on youtube. Anyone else having trouble?

Me too.

To use the terminology from "The lord of the rings", the evil eye is watching (and interfering).

I also did a post on H20powers thread yesterday, and today I had some effort just to get connected to the net.

I will be thankful, if one of you could post the video as a torrent file on eg. Mininova : The ultimate BitTorrent source!, as an alternative way to get the video via file sharing.

Eric

[Inquorate]

Schematic ?

I got the video working using the skyfire browser for symbian mobile phones.

Very interesting circuit, which schematic is the current one used in the video?

So many circuits to experiment on, so little time..

Love and light

[Tecstatic]

Hi Mike

I also got the nice video from another computer, thank you.

If I got it right from Bedini and my own experiments, you can't add a bulb and charge at the same time, as soon as you load the circuit with the bulb, it detunes more or less, and the battery leaves charging mode..

The battery must be in "charging mode" having a small electron charging current, without the small charging current, you only get "surface charging" from "radient charging" or "spatial charging" or whatever naming you use.

Eric

[Michael John Nunnerley]

circuit used in the video

Hi all this is the circuit used in the video

The coil for the reed switch is a 3v coil from a relay and the reed is placed in the center. The magnet is a very low field magnet, DO NOT USE A NEO OR OTHER POWERFUL MAGNET as these will perminently close the reed because the coil will not have sufficient power to counter the magnet.

The frequency will change with moving the magnet closer or farther away. Should be tuned to give the maximum voltage AC on the power primary coil without load or with load.

The 48 ohm resistor must be 5w, this does warm up a bit depending on the frequency and if the reed gets welded together.

The phasing transformer can be found in TV's and in good quality power supplies, or you can make your own using ferrite core which must be a wrap around with the ferrite,"look at the video".

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Voltage and current

Just another point

The voltage must be on the secoundary when under load "connected return to battery" higher than the battery voltage, the higher the better as when this sees the resistance in the battery the excess converts to amps.

Also the FWBR must be of good quality as the two phases on the coil are giving to ground two completly different voltages, there is a time shift, well thats how I see it

Mike

[gotoluc]

Hi Michael,

below is your post from Rosemary's Heater Circuit topic which I will reply here so not to mix the topics. I also added a link there for all interested to come here.

Thanks Luc and all for your comments

Luc the program you are using, where did you get it from? I found that the higher the frequency the better the voltage output, so I am looking to replace the reed with some type of transistor switch with variable frequency.

This must be of a very low power drain as I do not want to increase the circuit drain. I think that the optimum is between 6-7khz but as you say it is difficult to make the reed oscillate at this frequency without it welding itself.

The voltage input between the 48 ohm resistor and the reed is less than 1v and the other side of the reed is around 90-100v measured to ground.

Without load, "return to the battery" the AC voltage on the output secondary coil is around 170v, and when connected to the battery naturally it drops to around 23v. once this passes through the bridge this is about 38vDC going back to the battery. Naturally this sees the resistance in the battery and so is pumping back just above the actual battery voltage.

The trick is to have the higher voltage than the battery so as when it sees the resistance the extra voltage is turned into current which then gives a true charge.

The problem I have is as the voltage of the battery goes up so does the frequency change in the circuit and as so I have to move the magnet to keep it in the sweet spot for the high voltage output.

This is why I need to get away from the reed and use a transistor, anyone have a circuit for this? Harvey, any ideas?

Mike

Michael, the program I used is an audio frequency analyzer and nothing more then that. I wouldn't bother trying to do anything with this as I just wanted to find the reed switch frequency. However here is a nice Freeware Oscilloscope, spectrum and signal generator which even has Duty Cycle adjustment you can use with your computer soundcard. However you need to be real careful of how much input voltage you send in there as you can fry it real fast. Download link: http://www.zeitnitz.eu/scope/scope_131.zip

For an alternative switch!... could you not use a hall effect as switch? since who knows if the magnet is part of the effect!

I'm still away from home at this time but will be back on Nov. 3rd

Great work Michael and thanks for sharing.

Luc

[Michael John Nunnerley]

replace the reed

Has anybody come up with a circuit with frequency control "5-7khz" to replace the reed switch, this is important to tune this little baby to its max

Mike

[Inquorate]

Passive 5-10khz signal for switch

Mike - take a look at this;

YouTube - poor man's spectrum analyser theory of operation

YouTube - poor man's spectrum analyser becomes reality

If you have a 5 uh to 20 uh variable inductor

Pronine Electronics Design - Single-Layer Air Coil Calculator

And a 50uF cap as the parallel LC tank, it will redirect 5khz to 10khz from an aerial (metal plate?) to a diode to switch a transistor.

No extra current draw.

Love and light

[jeanna]

Has anybody come up with a circuit with frequency control "5-7khz" to replace the reed switch, this is important to tune this little baby to its max

Mike

Hi Mike,
Are you saying an external input of 5khz pulses?
Or is it required that it be inside this circuit?
If it can be external, it is quite easy and electrically verrry cheap to make a joule thief with a secondary whose secondary wires could connect to the same place that your reed switch coil wires are connected.

I will give you more details, and help you to make it, if an outside circuit would work for this.

jeanna

[witsend]

Hi Mike,
Are you saying an external input of 5khz pulses?
Or is it required that it be inside this circuit?
If it can be external, it is quite easy and electrically verrry cheap to make a joule thief with a secondary whose secondary wires could connect to the same place that your reed switch coil wires are connected.

I will give you more details, and help you to make it, if an outside circuit would work for this.

jeanna

Hi Jeanna. We could all do with these skills of yours. Would love to know more.

[jeanna]

Hi witsend,
How kind of you to say that.

I guess the first thing is to make a plain jtc ( joule thief circuit) and make sure it works with the led, then remove that led.
Now, wind a secondary and test for volts/turns. This will vary from toroid to toroid.

Then wind as many turns as you think you need (then add as many as you can on top of that).
I personally like to make them orderly for the first 2 layers up and back, then just sort of up and back after that. Soon, the center gets too small to organize it anyway, and I do not think it matters.

I suggest using a 47-100 ohm static resistor on the base and add a 1k ohm in series to that. Some toroids like to sing best at less than 47 ohms base resistor, but even they will be still good at a higher value.
It seems to me that if you can find a place that does not need to be in perfect resonance, you will have an easier time keeping it going.


This secondary will resonate at some frequency usually higher than 10khz, but you just have to find out.
(The slowest I have ever used was 5kHz, so when I read Mike's request, I thought I should jump in.)

A while ago, I noticed that in almost every case the voltage and frequency went in opposite directions, The 5khz gave me 450v to light a fluoro tube and the 208kkhz gives around 90v. (different toroids)

Because this would be external, the voltage of the energy absorption pump circuit would not be changing the pulses coming from the secondary of the jtc. (but I don't know anything about this eap circuit)

So, if this seems to work and you need any help, please ask. (I can move to a different thread if needed too.)

thank you,

jeanna

[witsend]

Thanks for the explanation Jeanna,

Here's the thing. Mike seems to show that inductance generated by a supply source can recharge that supply. Certainly this seems to work off load. But Harvey's concern here is that the battery may simply be bouncing back from a previous heavy discharge. This the more so as the effect is lost when running a load.

Personally - I've seen this happen so often on variations of this circuit - that I'm reasonably satisfied that it's an actual recharge cycle. I guess a final proof of this may be available with a hydrometer or suchlike. But I also know nothing about reed switches. I get it that it acts like a relay switch but much faster? Mike? Sorry to impose but would be glad if you'd advise.

But regarding your own interest - are you suggesting that this circuit can then be adapted to the principles of your Joule Thief number? I would have thought that this could then get the load running at a value that retains the benefit of a recharge as well as running the load. That's got to be a good thing.

Not sure of the required schematic despite the description. But I'm working on it. I'm definitely one of the mentally challenged.

And so nice to see that the feminine quotient in this forum is on the up and up. We'd love to see you on our thread - if you're up for it. It's an onerous amount of reading - but if you simply read backwards and concentrate on Aaron's and Fuzzy's contributions - then you'll possibly see where we're trying to go. And Harvey's posts explain the required protocol and parameters that still need evaluating. It seems to be his genius and our burden that he keeps pointing to new things that need re-testing or clarification. Luckily we've got more sense than to ignore his requirements here.

Sorry to go off topic here Mike. And apologies for the shameless attempt at getting Jeanne's interst. But I'm sure she'll not neglect your own thread. For that matter, nor will I.

[DrStiffler]

Hi all this is the circuit used in the video

The coil for the reed switch is a 3v coil from a relay and the reed is placed in the center. The magnet is a very low field magnet, DO NOT USE A NEO OR OTHER POWERFUL MAGNET as these will perminently close the reed because the coil will not have sufficient power to counter the magnet.

The frequency will change with moving the magnet closer or farther away. Should be tuned to give the maximum voltage AC on the power primary coil without load or with load.

The 48 ohm resistor must be 5w, this does warm up a bit depending on the frequency and if the reed gets welded together.

The phasing transformer can be found in TV's and in good quality power supplies, or you can make your own using ferrite core which must be a wrap around with the ferrite,"look at the video".

Mike

@Mike

If you want a circuit that will work to drive your system look at;
http://67.76.235.52/images/ce8cir01.gif

Use everything up to (C7). To get the colpitts to the frequency you want is a simple calculation of a couple of caps. The web is full of site that offer Java Applets to do that for you. The driver is very robust and will power up to 500mW with a good heat sink. You can use a power MOSFET and drive a truck if need be.

You might also want to view http://67.76.235.52/images/ce4cir01.gif and http://67.76.235.52/images/spt004.gif
they are all variations on doing what you are working with.

I still have not been able to see your video, I have tried everything people have suggested, but it will not load in some tries and others it just hangs at a black picture and does nothing.

I looked at your diagram and might interject a bit of history. Back in the modem connection days a fellow (JLN), (S.Hartmann) and a (Stiffler) guy would communicate back and forth on various circuits. Turns out the milk soured in the relationship and never did recover.

Anyway the ECAT circuit does work so keep at it, it is possible, I can't offer much more because of the basic similarities.

Hope that video gets cleared up.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Thanks for support

@Mike

If you want a circuit that will work to drive your system look at;
http://67.76.235.52/images/ce8cir01.gif

Use everything up to (C7). To get the colpitts to the frequency you want is a simple calculation of a couple of caps. The web is full of site that offer Java Applets to do that for you. The driver is very robust and will power up to 500mW with a good heat sink. You can use a power MOSFET and drive a truck if need be.

You might also want to view http://67.76.235.52/images/ce4cir01.gif and http://67.76.235.52/images/spt004.gif
they are all variations on doing what you are working with.

I still have not been able to see your video, I have tried everything people have suggested, but it will not load in some tries and others it just hangs at a black picture and does nothing.

I looked at your diagram and might interject a bit of history. Back in the modem connection days a fellow (JLN), (S.Hartmann) and a (Stiffler) guy would communicate back and forth on various circuits. Turns out the milk soured in the relationship and never did recover.

Anyway the ECAT circuit does work so keep at it, it is possible, I can't offer much more because of the basic similarities.

Hope that video gets cleared up.

Hi DrStiffler,

thank you for your support and I find the circuits you have sent very interesting and very helpful.

The more I play around with this the more I am finding out. By putting a LED across the 47 ohm 5w I can use this as a tuning indicator.

I am planing on building your oscillator to switch the circuit, just short of the 2N7000 or it would be running now.

The 2 F cap, well I got all the large caps that I have and made up a bank, but did not quite reach 1 F. On test I could keep it running for nearly 1 minute, but I see the problem.

Watching the voltage it is like going up one step and fall back two, up one again and fall back two, and so it goes on untill it stops. This is the change in frequency due to the voltage change in the circuit. If the frequency is stable at it's sweet spot then I am sure we will have a self runner with only the battery to start it in the first place.

I hope your circuit will do the trick. I have now a frequency scaner and I will look at the frequency this is running at to start with and then calculate the caps with maybe some switching in of others to see where is the best.

As to the video, pinch the link on post 72 this seams to work OK

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Basic switch

Hi Mike,
Are you saying an external input of 5khz pulses?
Or is it required that it be inside this circuit?
If it can be external, it is quite easy and electrically verrry cheap to make a joule thief with a secondary whose secondary wires could connect to the same place that your reed switch coil wires are connected.

I will give you more details, and help you to make it, if an outside circuit would work for this.

jeanna

Hi Jeanna

Thanks for joining in here

The reed is just a switch and the coil I am using is just powered by the output of the phasing transformer.

An external circuit is needed as when the voltage changes in the circuit, so does the frequency, which is not good. But this circuit must run from the input power of the STEAP circuit so as we can have the self runner.

Mike