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Some thoughts on hand-made capacitor
I looked up Kraft paper, and there are several
thicknesses and weights:
thick (inches) weight (lbs)
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.003 30
.004 40
.005 50
.006 60
.007 70
.009 90
The formula for a capacitor is C=eA / d
were C is capacitance in Farads, e is permitivity, A is
area in square meters, d is distance between plates.
You can re-arange this formula to compute for d.
d = eA / C
e is 8.854187817E-12 F/m * 3.85 (constant for paper).
Plug in the 7.8nF desired capacitance, and
2.75 in by 91.125 in for the size of the capacitor (roughly),
you end up with a d equal to
distance = 0.027818 in (0.706566 mm)
To achieve that distance between plates with say 30lb
Kraft paper, you would need about 9 sheets
-- RATHER THAN ONLY 1 SHEET --
This may explain why some have not been able to get the 7.8nf value
with 1 sheet of kraft paper.
The plates were too close together for this smaller capacitance goal.
The instructions in various stuff written about Hendershot's
Fuelless Generator don't mention putting MORE sheets between
the plates to create that thickness ... but the math works
out that way.
Wax paper, on the other hand, has a thickness of about 1mm --
.03937 in. and dielectric constant of about 2.7.
Plug in those numbers an you need this thickness:
distance = 0.019508 in (0.495514 mm)
which works out to be "thinner", actually than the wax paper itself.
You can succeed with one sheet of wax paper if you perhaps
lengthen the foil to 93 inch or so with this thickness and
this dieletric constant. Hence, it appears that
- Wax Paper -- 1 sheet
- 30lb Kraft paper -- 9 sheets between plates.
The paper has a better dielectric constant, so you need to adjust
the plates so that they are more distant from each other to
compensate -- according to the math.Comment
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rolled Capacitor formula
Actually, there is another formula for capacitance that might
apply even better.
See this URL: Welcome to the LaushausComment
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Graphite Pencils....
Hi Guys/Gals,
I've performed another interesting experiment today that might
be of use to some of you. I have this basket weave style coil
I'm working on in the Bashar Thread that uses "pencils" for one
of the diameters in the lower coil. I went around my house and
collected all sorts of pencils for this purpose. I also thought
it would be interesting to have graphite in that "eddy current"
area of the basket weave "dowel" locations.
Today I hooked up an audio amplifier directly to the basket weave
coil and cranked the volume. You can hear white-noise, static.
Ok. Now I took a very powerful magnet and moved it around the
circumference of the coil, wiggling it a bit, and moving it up
and down, and turning its orientation, etc.
When hovering over certain pencils, there is a distinct "swishing"
sound. You can even approach with the magnet over these
pencils, and here a definite sustained "swishing".
Other pencils, specifically #2 pencils I bought @ Target, are
DEAD quite.
Hendershot's Fuelles Generator was reported to have used
graphite for the dowels or carbon with wax,
and this was always a mystery as to
whether or not this matters. I'm starting to think it might.
They are similar to a "graphite" microphone and have
pzioelectric effects and magnetic effects probably.
Under the pressure of magnetic fields, they appear to be
"reactive" and create swishy noises on the wire.
If you google search for "parametric oscillator", we are looking
for ways to "tweak" the resonant frequency and/or the damping,
as a way of getting positive feedback.
quote: "It may be that Hendershot did not use just paraffin
between the capacitor energy accumulator and the outer
coils, but instead, used a carbon compound which was sealed
at either end by paraffin wax."Last edited by morpher44; 02-08-2013, 09:52 PM.Comment
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Fluxgate Magnetometer thoughts
I have also been reading up on Fluxgate Magnetometers,
and the cylinders Hendershot has in his fuelless generator are
likely a Fluxgate Magnetometer. If that is so, many of the equations
needed have already been worked out. These device became
popular right around the 1930s.
You need a sensing coil...
You need a ferromagnetic material (with some B-H curve), in the coil.
You need a excitation coil.
The frequencies can be LOW and will be limited by this
B-H curve of the material selected. The higher the frequency
you can go within these limits, the more voltage will be induced.
The Earth's field can be the field being sensed ... or another field
(such as one from a magnet).
The following ways, via the equation, can be exploited to increase
voltage in the sensing:
1) Increase excitation frequency (within the cut-off limits of BH curve)
2) Increase the number of turns in the sensing coil
(or have a novel way of winding that is not strictly "solenoidish"
3) Increase the cross-section of the ferromagnetic material
(but, a larger cross-section will require larger current while sensing)
The modern trend in these devices is to go smaller and smaller
and use CMOS, etc.
But for power generation, it seems that scaling the other way,
with larger magnetic fields, larger number of turns, larger cross-sectional
area, may yield LARGER effects.
I'm reading also that "even today", the complexities of this
phenomenon are not fully understood.
I think the Hendershot device does appear to have some
"fluxgate" properties.
Fluxgate Magnetometers - YouTube
Flux Gate Magnetomethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3_vr8VIdpEer or Solid state Generator? - YouTubeLast edited by morpher44; 02-09-2013, 12:22 AM.Comment
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Watch the new Movie "Atlas Shrugged" at all about what's happening on earth right now and they found a free energy deviceComment
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I got this message from serbenuk on Youtube
много було эксперементов но генератор незапускается мы растроенны! но наш ведущий обещял разобраться и всеравно этот генератор запустим!!!
Translated on Google
Bulo much experimentation but the generator does not start we rastroyennykh! but our lead obeschyal vseravno understand and run the generator!
Im not sure if anyone understands Russian
Hendershot пояснение Романов - YouTube
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I read this today
I dont know if it helps at all
The Hendershot Motor Mystery by Tom Brown. There are also other devices in use that involve some of Hendershot's ideas, such as the Swiss M/L ConverterComment
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These guys here are talking about using Carbon Rods
123people result forhttp://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=153Comment
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Its magnitude at the Earth's surface ranges from 25 to 65 T (0.25 to 0.65 G). It is approximately the field of a magnetic dipole tilted at an angle of 11
Earth's magnetic field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaComment
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Good day to you, collegues! Excuse me for my bad English, please.Originally posted by Gazzasore View Post
"This message from serbenuk on Youtube " says in bad Russian: "It was much experimentation performed but the generator did not start. We are in a bad humor. But our leader promises to understand Hendershot principles and to make this generator working (some time later...)"
That Mr Romanoff (the leader) only speaks well, but not have any working devices, alas...
OleksiiComment
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Thanks for Grate information!!! In Russian!!!Originally posted by Gazzasore View Post
(I`m Russian-speaking, from Ukraine)
It begins: Бестопливный генератор Хендершота
It deals with treating Hendershot handmade Condensors as EH-antennas and calkulations of their parameters with specific software: ehmanager12.zip (http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/...hmanager12.zip)
program description: -
All about EH-antennas (DIY - recommendations): -
ehant.qrz.ru/index.html
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In English see: Ted Hart CEO
EH Antenna Systems, LLC
EH Antenna Systems
Happy New Year - of the Black Snake!
OleksiiComment
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EH-antenna
Yeah I went to the site and just clicked on the translate button toOriginally posted by DonBass View Post
read it in English, and saw the bit about EH-antenna. I had never
come across this style of antenna before and so this was interesting.
It is another group concluding that we are dealing with Ghz reception
using a loop of wire, and this hand-made capacitor "resonator" thing
with a geometry that matches Ghz wave lengths.
In the presence of strong Ghz radio towers, it probably works great.
When not near them, however, the trick would be to boost the
gain "somehow". So I could see that this is a way of giving a little
power -- perhaps to start the machine going -- similar to how running
a long wire up a pole could do that too. Yet, these cylinders are
more compact .. for a nice little antenna unit.
The other aspects of the fuelless generator are more mysteries.
Barry Hilton's book has a good discussion about magnetometers
in an appendix, and I'm thinking this is a promising area of research.
I'm wondering WHY we haven't had public-domain research into
power generating using "magnetometer-like" circuits.
Stephen Mark's TPU comes to mind as a device that looks very
much like a classic fluxgate magnetometer. I wonder if Mr. Mark
was just intersted in magnetometers and got this "crazzy" idea
of scaling one up to a really LARGE size .. to see what would happen.
I made a crude magnetometer from some Hendershot-like solenoids
I had made. My solenoid used STEEL bolts as the core. That turns
out to be DUMB. Steel is "horrible" in that the permeability constant
is 100 (iron is 200), and also steel has "memory" of the field.
You want Iron cores or "Electric Steel -- i.e. Laminated Steel found
in transformers"). This solenoid had two bolts, with the coils wound
such that one would produce a North, one would produce a South.
Around this I wrapped 160 feet of 20 AWG magnetic wire.
This would be the sensing coil.
The thing worked ... although not very good .. as a magnetometer.
It is exciting so see the ECHO pulse in between your "excitation" pulses.
This ECHO pulse just APPEARS and changes SIGN and MAGNITUDE
depending upon the magnet you bring nearby and its polarity, etc.
The magnitude can exceed the pulse you put in ...
This is a crazy non-linear thing... Wild.
Further, as you hold the magnet NEAR the solenoid, it vibrates in your
hand with a pretty intense power .. for such low power input.
At 30Hz, I can hear the table vibrations just a bit.
I'm using a 9Volt battery to power the thing ... and pretty WEAK magnets.
So ... I think I've worked out that the bar-solenoid-magnet are
an element of a magnetometer ... and it is these ECHO pulses that
we want to create from low power input.
The "antenna" can be the source of low power with a low-frequency
oscillation (converted from these high-frequency Ghz reception).
This low-frequency oscillation is need ONLY to "excite" the magnetometer
solenoids. Another coil can PICK-UP the echo pulse ... which can be
higher in magnitude.
This can open the door to many different approaches for doing the same
sort of thing. What we are really after, I think, is device that
is like a magnetometer, that harvests power from a magnet, after
setting it into a wild oscillation. This is not free energy ... the magnet
will be "consumed" as a fuel and will be demagnetized ... over time.
You would then need another magnet to fuel it. In this sense, this
sort of device would not be "fuelless" ... and it does take POWER
to make magnets. No laws of physics violated here.
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Hi guys regarding this schematic how much capacitance and voltage are the big caps?
and what's coil D? baskets have three coils no?
ThanksLast edited by Guruji; 02-12-2013, 09:03 PM.Comment
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