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  • Originally posted by rickoff View Post
    Keep in mind that I previously stated, "there really is no compelling evidence that any large aircraft struck the WTC Twin Towers."

    Rick
    What troubles me is that nobody has filmed neither the 1st nor 2nd building when the explosions took place showing no airplane at all.

    What I mean is that if the no-plane theory is correct, after the 1st crash/bomb there should be many people recording the towers who should have captured the 2nd crash/explosion with no plane in sight at all. Why isn't there a single video showing the explosion with no plane?

    Do you see my point? Not a single video showing no plane before the explosion is too much coincidence if there were no planes involved. Things have to make sense.

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    • Thanks Rick, my wife and I appreciate the reply and time taken to explain your own former situation. An English friend of mine who is now in Oklahoma, informed me that he still has to have his biometrics done (fingerprinting et al) every year, after having been a citizen for the past few years.
      My website has a petition linked to it ( Keep Me Here ! Petition ) that appears to have fallen on deaf ears at the desk of Governor Brad Henry. We have 90 signings of support and some while back I emailed his office stating my case, asking for possible support.

      Well, one thing. My wife attended the interview and landed the job at K-Mart

      I'm going to look at the planes situ for 9/11 myself, having always considered the apparently large attachment under the plane and the flash as it entered the building to be quite odd indeed. Also been looking closely at the initially incredible thoughts of Dr. Judy Wood. Whatever people think of Mr. Hutchison, it deserves a good look at it, perhaps more so with many of us here dabbling with resonant waves and societally radical energy uses.
      Last edited by Slider2732; 05-06-2011, 11:55 PM.

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      • Originally posted by bugler View Post
        What troubles me is that nobody has filmed neither the 1st nor 2nd building when the explosions took place showing no airplane at all.
        Its more like, that you get constantly teached, that anytime anywhere is someone around and has his Camera turned on.
        No, it is not like this, a lot Things happens without beeing filmed. But its a good Excuse from the Medias now, to explain all her fake Videos about it.
        Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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        • Originally posted by bugler View Post
          What troubles me is that nobody has filmed neither the 1st nor 2nd building when the explosions took place showing no airplane at all.

          What I mean is that if the no-plane theory is correct, after the 1st crash/bomb there should be many people recording the towers who should have captured the 2nd crash/explosion with no plane in sight at all. Why isn't there a single video showing the explosion with no plane?

          Do you see my point? Not a single video showing no plane before the explosion is too much coincidence if there were no planes involved. Things have to make sense.
          If you think about it, it really does make perfect sense. First, take a look at the WTC complex, as it would have been seen from above:



          The "official" story has it that the North tower (WTC1) was struck first, and that the South Tower (WTC2) was struck 17 minutes later. When the first explosion occurred at WTC1, there was no talk of a "terrorist attack," and it was first assumed that a plane had simply lost altitude and crashed. It is important to keep in mind that no one (other than the perpetrators) was expecting a second impact. Camera crews converged on the scene, and of course sought out a good place to view the reported impact damage to the north face of WTC1. Only a very few amateur photographers captured what was claimed to be still photos or video of the WTC2 impact. The still images were of poor quality and of questionable authenticity, and only one video, taken from a east viewpoint at a boat on the river, was of quality and duration to show what clearly appeared to be a large airliner approaching and crashing. That video, and another one shot from a west viewpoint, when examined frame by frame, have many problems which raise questions as to what the alleged "flight 175" actually was, and whether there was any plane at all. Both could have been prepared before 9/11 to support the "official" story. Frankly, I do think that something, such as a winged missile, struck both of the towers. Sound travels so slow that people on the ground would not even hear an impact until after it had occurred, so by the time they looked up in the direction of the south tower impact, it was all over. The few who did claim to see the impact all saw different things, and most were looking eastward, into the sun. What people thought they saw was later re-envisioned and refined when they saw the "official" video clips that were released on TV news channels.

          What actually struck WTC2 will likely remain a mystery. All that is certain is that it wasn't UAL flight 175, as that was still flying an hour after the alleged crash. If one chooses to believe that a large plane struck WTC2, then it would likely have to have been a miltary aircraft, as no commercial or civillian aircraft were reported lost on 9/11 other than those that allegedly crashed. The case for it having been a winged missile seems better, though, when one watches these videos:

          "plane" was only about 88 feet long (analysis of a Naudet film) Note: Flight 175 was a Boeing 767-222 series, and 159 feet long.
          Zoomed in view claimed to not be missile (sure doesn't look like an airliner)

          another missile video (this one shows a small flying image in an approaching path from above, while the river shot video shows a plane flying parallel to the ground for some distance)
          Last edited by rickoff; 05-08-2011, 11:44 PM. Reason: sp
          "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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          • Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
            Thanks Rick, my wife and I appreciate the reply and time taken to explain your own former situation. My website has a petition linked to it ( Keep Me Here ! Petition ) that appears to have fallen on deaf ears at the desk of Governor Brad Henry. We have 90 signings of support and some while back I emailed his office stating my case, asking for possible support.

            Well, one thing. My wife attended the interview and landed the job at K-Mart
            Glad to hear your wife landed a job. That should help, but don't waste time with your governor, as he has no pull with Immigration. Go to your Senator's local office, and don't waste any time getting there. Within a week or two afterwards, you will likely get a letter from Immigration stating that your status has suddenly improved. We pay these Senators quite well, so we should expect something from them in return. Most of them simply spend their 6 year term in office doing photo ops and working on getting reelected. Make your Senator do something important for a change!
            "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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            • Annual year-end block party at Western Illinois University ends with riot police. Students attending the Wheeler Block Party were met by a Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force who used tear gas
              YouTube - BREAKING ALERT: Mass Arrests, Tear Gas, Sound Weapons used Against WIU Students

              "Fight of the Century" is the new economics hip-hop music video by John Papola and Russ Roberts
              YouTube - Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two

              Al

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              • More on Obama's Social Security number(s)

                You may remember reading my previous post concerning Obama's faked Selective Service registration, and the very questionable Social Security number associated with that record. Much of that information came to light because of private investigators hired by lawyer Orly Taitz to see what they could dig up on the very secretive person we know as either Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama. In the case that Taitz filed against Obama, investigator Susan Daniels, signed an affadavit which included a readout of all the Social Security numbers that appeared in a professional search under the name Barack Obama. These report records are generated whenever someone uses a Social Security card for identification purposes, such as applying for a job or driver's license, opening a bank account, and so on. While one would not expect to find very many people with that name, the search showed 105 listings that occupied 8 pages. Part of the reason for this large number of records is that while using his 042-68-4425 number, Barack lived at 11 different addresses in three different areas, and many of these addresses showed up more than once in the report. The problem with his 042-68-4425 number, as you may remember, is that it was issued in Connecticut - a state where he never resided. Of the several addresses where Barry supposedly lived when he used his SS identification, I was very surprised to see an address in the Boston suburb of Somerville listed. Especially interesting is the fact that he used the 042-68-4425 number associated with the Somerville address 12 times between July 2001 and October 2007. During that same time period, his number was also associated with addresses in Chicago and Washington, DC.

                Of the 7 other numbers that were issued in the name of Barack Obama, some obvious problems exist when you look into them. For example, number 485-40-5154, which was on record as being used by a Barack Obama who supposedly lived in Jackson, New Jersey, was found in the Social Security death index as originally registered in 1955 in Iowa to Lucille Ballantyne, who was born in 1912 and died in1998. Thing is, Social Security never reissues an expired number to another person, so this Barack Obama (whether it is Barry or someone else) was using fraudulent Social Security identification. In two of the remaining 6 records in the report, a Barack Obama was on record as residing at 505 FARR C, COLUMBUS GA 31907. What is strange about this is that there are two different SS numbers listed, 420-67-2965 and 423-29-2961. Unless there was a Barack Obama senior and junior living at that address, and both had SS cards, these records are also obviously fraudulent. Looking at the "FARR C" address, I immediately was suspicious of it since it just seems wrong. Thinking it might be a faked address meant to be funny (sounding like FAR SEA, or FARCE) I looked it up in the Postal Service zip code finder. The address came back corrected as 505 FARR RD, APARTMENT C, so it is an actual address that was written down incorrectly by the person or persons applying for these SS cards. Of the 4 other remaining records, 1 was from Texas, 1 from Florida, and 2 were from Utah.

                Perhaps there actually are some other people in the USA with the name Barack Obama, but is that the actual case or might there be some fraud involved? Certainly the Barack Obama using a dead woman's number is fraudulent, and it would seem due diligence should be exercised in investigating this to determine who the person actually is.


                There is a new radio interview available in which private investigator Susan Daniels explains her Obama Social Security searches, and tells how she has provided this information to the Social Security Administration and several authority figures who have never replied, and just don't seem interested.


                The complete Susan Daniels affadavit, as well as an affadavit provided by investigator John Sampson, can be downloaded as pdf files from this website. To download the files, single-right-click the links and choose "Save Target As." A note of interest is that Sampson, a retired Senior Deportation Officer of the United States Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), was barred from any further use of the search site that he used, even though he was in full compliance with the search provider's rules.


                I have made a shortened list of the most relevant information that was found in Susan Daniels' search, and show this below. You might want to review this information while reading the top pparagraph of this post, which relates the several suspicious oddities found.




                Social Security numbers Issued to the name Barack Obama


                And, dates, # of times, and addresses where used


                As reported in a 10/02/09 Tracers Information Specialists people search


                And as seen in the Susan Daniels affadavit




                Sorry the headings and data don't line up properly. For some reason or another, you cannot use the Tab key to arrange data in columns. I also tried inserting spaces, but it springs right back to look like this.


                SS number date range #uses Address of record when used
                042-68-4425 06/86-10/86 3 5429 S HARPER AV 1N, CHICAGO IL 60615
                042-68-4425 12/01/1993 8 5324 S KIMBARK AV, CHICAGO IL 60615
                042-68-4425 01/01/1999 8 1440 E 52 ST, CHICAGO IL 60615
                042-68-4425 05/01/1999 7 2152 E 71 ST, CHICAGO IL 60649
                042-68-4425 07/01-10/07 12 365 BROADWAY B1, SOMERVILLE MA 02145
                042-68-4425 05/26/2005 1 7436 S EUCLID AV 2, CHICAGO IL 60649
                042-68-4425 02/01/06 8 227 6TH ST, WASHINGTON DC 20002
                042-68-4425 07/06 1 300 MASSACHUSETTS AV 5, WASHINGTON DC 20001
                042-68-4425 06/07-06/08 4 180 N LA SALLE ST 2200, CHICAGO IL 60601-2610
                042-68-4425 12/07-04/08 5 5046 S GREENWOOD AV, CHICAGO IL 60615-2806
                042-68-4425[1] 08/20/2008 1 5450 S EAST VIEW PARK, CHICAGO IL 60615

                675-54-6554 04/08-09/08 2 1000 NW 33 AV, FT WORTH TX 76180
                485-40-5154[2] 02/08-08/08 2 83775 BATES RD, JACKSON NJ 08527
                420-67-2965 01/08-08/08 3 505 FARR C, COLUMBUS GA 31907-6275
                423-29-2961[3] 02/08 1 505 FARR C, COLUMBUS GA 31907
                799-89-7090 08/07-02/08 3 11 PENNSYLVANIA AV, WASHINGTON UT 84780
                651-23-4987 01-08 1 15 A1A, MANALAPAN FL 33434
                901-09-8765 06/07 2 PO BOX 1236, PROVO UT 84603

                [1] Issued to Barack Hussein Obama 1977-1979 in Connecticut

                [2] Originally issued 1954-1955 in Iowa to Lucille Ballantyne b1912 d1998 as noted in SS Death Index

                [3] Issued 1988-1989 in Alabama



                Last edited by rickoff; 05-08-2011, 10:34 PM.
                "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                • They say this signal is really in Kenya. LOL.

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                  • Originally posted by bugler View Post
                    They say this signal is really in Kenya. LOL.

                    There probably is a sign somewhat like this somewhere in Kenya, but this isn't it. It was proven to be a photoshopped fake quite some time ago.
                    Most likely this scam was developed by some Obama-Bot (perhaps the same person who made up his "birth certificate"), for the reason that people would be quick to run with it and post it all over the Internet as "proof" that Obama was born in Kenya, which could then be exposed as a fraudulent, photoshopped image by the same O-Bot who posted it. I had hoped that it was real when I first saw the image several months ago, but then found the truth about it in this February 2010 World Net Daily article.

                    Here's the original photo, which is of a sign located in Madha, Oman. It was originally posted by Norwegian Journalist Jan Krogh at http://www.geosite.jankrogh.com/enkl...ha_Closeup.jpg and is still there.



                    "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                    • Judicial Watch files FOIA request to Get Bin Laden "Death Pics"

                      From a May 7 article released by Newsmax.com:

                      Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced it filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the Department of Defense seeking all photographs and/or video recordings of Osama bin Laden taken during and/or after the U.S. military operation in Pakistan that resulted in bin Laden's death.

                      The request to the Defense Department was filed May 3. An identical request was filed with the CIA. Under the Freedom of Information Act, the agencies have 20 business days legally to respond.

                      "President Obama's decision not to release the bin Laden photos is at odds with his promises to make his administration the most transparent in history," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "Judicial Watch hopes its FOIA requests will provide a mechanism to release these records in an orderly fashion in compliance with the FOIA law. President Obama's reluctance to 'spike the football' is not a lawful reason for withholding these historic public documents from the American people. We are prepared to go to court to obtain this information."
                      Read more on Newsmax.com: Judicial Watch Sues to Get bin Laden Death Pics
                      "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                      • Bringing things back

                        Looks like repubs are not going to use the raising of the debt limit to exact any meaningful changes to the whole budget fiasco.They may make some cosmetic changes, do some typical smoke and mirrors, but nothing close to whats needed Kinda figured as much, So, the die is cast!Jim

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                        • Good Post

                          Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
                          i was never very swayed by that fear stuff... it only seems to work on those who could possibly be intimidated by pointless threats. When you view this as it is, its hard to get very scared over it

                          And we are doing something right here in this forum and many other places... Doing much more than they are happy to see being done... We are putting a great deal of pressure on some who don't like being pressured... Too friggin bad: They are going to disclose on Free Energy and many other things anyway whether they like it or not, because the PEOPLE OF THE WORLD will make them. There are hundreds of millions of us waking up, and only handfuls of them. If i was one of them.... i would be the one scared here, hehehe.

                          I used to live in a world where "conspiracy" was a word synonymous and nearly always followed with the word "nut" ... That was because this word was deliberately and carefully made out to have these connotations by those who think they can control others through their thoughts, and who make a living at doing so... The idea of turning "conspiracy" in a pejorative based on derision started in the mid 1960's; to try and deflect folks from thinking too hard about the Kennedy Assassination (and Oswald's assassination by Jack Ruby right after it).... and it has gone on ever since. They really started cranking it up after 9/11 though, lol.

                          But the fact is, when folks get wise to these pathetic little parlor tricks, they really don't do squat... And we are not swayed by mere words and threats of doom. All they can really do to us is to make some suggestions: Which are immediately rejected for what they are.

                          Because true independence is the independence of thought. And any "revolution" we have is going to be a revolution of thought.. One with no bullets, but with something much more powerful.
                          Nice post

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                          • Originally posted by rickoff View Post
                            From a May 7 article released by Newsmax.com:


                            Read more on Newsmax.com: Judicial Watch Sues to Get bin Laden Death Pics
                            I beleive they are not going to show the picture of bin Laden dead until Obama needs it to boost his ratings just before the elections...Then it will be "leaked" out by an anonimous source
                            Smile it doesn't hurt!

                            Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                            • George Soros

                              The rise in oil prices have nothing to do with supply and demand of oil, but is being heavily influenced by speculators. This is has been in the news alot and I didn't think too much about it until a close freind of mine who works in Zürich told me that one of the major players in oil speculation George Soros. Then it all made se3nce to me.
                              Soros is manipualting the oil market to bring about the collapse of the US economy.
                              Energy/oil and money are the two biggest vulnerabilties of Amercia, and those are the two things he knows most about.
                              Bizzy
                              Smile it doesn't hurt!

                              Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                              • More Obama "certificate" anomalies

                                In addidtion to the several anomalies already pointed out concerning the Obama "certificate," here are additional ones which I consider to be unexplainable other than through use of careless cut-and-paste techniques employed in a document manufacturing process.

                                These anomalies are alignment issues that do not occur in the Susan Nordyke or Edith Coats certificates which I posted earlier. In the side by side views shown below, you see a portion of Obama's "certificate" at left, and a similar portion of the Nordyke certificate. In both images, I have added a thin red vertical line which is aligned at the left edge of the pre-printed form headings. Using this line as a point of reference, you will note that the typed entries in each of the boxes is aligned perfectly with the red line, which runs through the middle of the second character in each typed word, excepting for the "Street Address" data, which appears to have been purposely indented by tabbing. Now look at the Obama "certificate" image and notice how the "M" in Male, "K" in Kapiolani, and the "B" in Barack are each in a differing alignment plane, with only the "M" touching the red line. What I consider to be of even greater significance, and totally unexplainable, is the fact that the letter "S" in the supposedly pre-printed "Street Address" heading on Obama's document is significantly shifted to the left of all the other headings. The red line is clearly cutting through the middle of the "S," while it is positioned very close to the left edge of all the other headings. If the preprinted headings were a true image of an original certificate, this could not happen, and note that each of the headings in the Nordyke certificate is precisely aligned. There is absolutely no way that any of the O-bots can hope to explain this glaring anomaly, which points the document up as definitely having been carelessly and fraudulently manufactured, and compelling that a thorough expert forensic document analysis must be performed.

                                Last edited by rickoff; 05-09-2011, 07:28 PM.
                                "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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