The American Ruling Class

[rickoff]

In case you didn't know......

More than 60% of the people of the United States were against the implementation of ObamaCare (HB3200) at the time that Congress rammed it down our throats without even reading what was in it. Now that a few people actually have read the provisions included in ObamaCare, our opposition to the bill was well founded. Even most of those who thought that HB3200 was a good thing should now be infuriated at much of what it contains.

Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, Texas, has highlighted the pages he sees as the most egregious examples.

Please read this.... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

Honorable David Kithil
Marble Falls, Texas

All of the above should give you the point blank ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

[DrStiffler]

More than 60% of the people of the United States were against the implementation of ObamaCare (HB3200) at the time that Congress rammed it down our throats without even reading what was in it. Now that a few people actually have read the provisions included in ObamaCare, our opposition to the bill was well founded. Even most of those who thought that HB3200 was a good thing should now be infuriated at much of what it contains.

Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, Texas, has highlighted the pages he sees as the most egregious examples.

Please read this.... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

Honorable David Kithil
Marble Falls, Texas

All of the above should give you the point blank ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

*Sorry, old mind at work. Who is the opposition again that can or will do any correction beyond self serving lip service?

I think my statement about Trump being a shill came true. What better way to settle the birthers than to have Trump come out and challenge, Mr. O then releasing his false document then laughing it up on tv talk shows of how stupid we all were. Then leave the scene for Trump, job well done all are now in line.

Lets see Romney, Says he would stop OC, yet he forced it on his state, two faced or double standard? Oh hey old Newt, (like the amphibian), from CFR as all and boy would he clear it all up, already spoke the truth by mistake and had to back off and try to cover his real feelings.

Sure, the opposition, yes there is some, false mouth as in false flag I think.

[bugler]

About Ron Paul

In this article: The Fall of Ron Paul and the March of the Psychopaths. Reflections in a Petri Dish
the guy expresses what I feel about Ron Paul.

[IndianaBoys]

The Battle For Your Mind

This may shed light on how Obama was able to get elected and get elected again. Mainstream media has a liberal agenda and more than likely they are using covert tactics to persuade you without you being aware:

IndianaBoys


The Battle For Your Mind
battlemind

Persuasion & Brainwashing Techniques
Being Used On The Public Today

By Dick Sutphen

The following is an expanded version of a talk Dick Sutphen delivered at the World Congress of Professional Hypnotists Convention in Las Vegas, Nevada. Although the paper carries a 1984 copyright to protect the contents from unlawful duplication for sale, Dick invites individuals to make copies and give them to friends or anyone in a position to communicate this information. Since the paper was released, it has been distributed to millions and is currently available on dozens of Websites. As a result of this awareness, Dick has been contacted by law enforcement officers, the BBC and investigative reporters. On numerous occasions, the information has helped to bring public attention to the misuse of conversion tactics.

Some government agencies don't want this information generally known, for the techniques are used in armed forces basic training. Some Christian Fundamentalists, cults, and human-potential trainings would also prefer that the public remain unaware of how they are recruiting new members.

I'm going to talk about conversion, which is a nice word for brainwashing. Everything I'll share only exposes the surface of the problem. I don't know how the misuse of these techniques can be stopped other than through public awareness. It isn't possible to legislate against what often cannot be detected; and if those who legislate are using these techniques, there is little hope of affecting laws to govern usage.

In talking about mind manipulation, I am talking about my own business. I know it, and I know how effective it can be. I produce hypnosis and subliminal tapes and, in some of my seminars, I use conversion tactics to assist participants to become independent and self-sufficient. But, any time I use these techniques, I point out that I am using them, and those attending have a choice to participate or not. They're also aware of the desired result of participation.

So, to begin, I want to share a basic fact about brainwashing: IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF MAN, NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN BRAINWASHED AND REALIZED, OR BELIEVED, THAT HE HAD BEEN BRAINWASHED. Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" ... or have been transformed in miraculous ways.



The Birth of Conversion

Any study of brainwashing has to begin with a study of Christian revivalism in eighteenth century America. Apparently, Jonathan Edwards accidentally discovered the techniques during a religious crusade in 1735 in Northampton, Massachusetts. By inducing guilt and acute apprehension and by increasing the tension, the sinners attending his revival meetings would break down and completely submit. Technically, what Edwards was doing was creating conditions that wipe the brain slate clean so that the mind accepts new programming. He would tell those attending, "You're a sinner! You're destined for hell!"

As a result, one person committed suicide and another attempted suicide. The neighbors of the suicidal converts related that they, too, were affected so deeply that, although they had found "eternal salvation," they were obsessed with a diabolical temptation to end their own lives.

Once a preacher, cult leader, manipulator or authority figure creates the brain phrase to wipe the brain-slate clean, his subjects are open to new programming. New input, in the form of suggestions, can be substituted for their previous ideas. Because Edwards didn't turn his message positive until the end of the revival, many accepted the negative suggestions and acted, or desired to act, upon them.

Charles J. Finney was another Christian revivalist who used the same techniques four years later in mass religious conversions in New York. The techniques are still being used today by Christian revivalists, cults, human-potential training, some business rallies and the U.S. armed services.

Let me point out here that I don't think most revivalist preachers realize or know they are using brainwashing techniques. Edwards simply stumbled upon a technique that worked, and others copied it and have continued to copy it for over two hundred years. And the more sophisticated our knowledge and technology become, the more effective the conversion. I feel strongly that this is one of the major reasons for the increasing rise in Christian fundamentalism, especially the televised variety, while most of the orthodox religions are declining.



The 3 Brain Phases

The Christians may have been the first to successfully formulate brainwashing, but we have to look to Pavlov, the Russian scientist, for a technical explanation. In the early 1900s, his work with animals opened the door to further investigations with humans. After the revolution in Russia, Lenin was quick to see the potential of applying Pavlov's research to his own ends.

Three distinct and progressive states of transmarginal inhibition were identified by Pavlov. The first is the Equivalent phase, in which the brain gives the same response to both strong and weak stimuli. Second is the Paradoxical phase, in which the brain responds more actively to weak stimuli than to strong. Third is the Ultra-Paradoxical phase, in which conditioned responses and behavior patterns turn from positive to negative or from negative to positive.

With the progressions through each phase, the degree of conversion becomes more effective and complete. The ways to achieve conversion are many and varied, but the usual first step in religious or political brainwashing is to work on the emotions of an individual or group until they reach an abnormal level of anger, fear, excitement or nervous tension.

The progressive result of this mental condition is to impair judgment and increase suggestibility. The more this condition can be maintained or intensified, the more it compounds. Once catharsis or the first brain phase is reached, the complete mental takeover becomes easier. Existing mental programming can be replaced with new patterns of thinking and behavior.

Other often-used physiological weapons to modify normal brain functions are fasting, radical or high sugar diets, physical discomforts, regulation of breathing, mantra chanting in meditation, the disclosure of awesome mysteries, special lighting and sound effects, programmed response to incense, or intoxicating drugs.

The same results can be obtained in contemporary psychiatric treatment by electric shock treatments and even by purposely lowering a patient's blood sugar level with insulin injections.

Before I talk about exactly how some of the techniques are applied, I want to point out that hypnosis and conversion tactics are two distinctly different things -- and that conversion techniques are far more powerful. However, the two are often mixed ... with powerful results.



How Revivalist Preachers Work

If you'd like to see a revivalist preacher at work, there are probably several in your city. Go to the church or tent early and sit in the rear, about three-quarters of the way back. Most likely repetitive music will be played while the people come in for the service. A repetitive beat, ideally ranging from 45 to 72 beats per minute (a rhythm close to the beat of a human heart), is very hypnotic and can generate an eyes-open altered state of consciousness in a high percentage of people. And, once you are in an Alpha state, you are at least 25 times as suggestible as you would be in full Beta consciousness. The music is probably the same for every service, or incorporates the same beat, and many of the people will go into an altered state almost immediately upon entering the sanctuary. Subconsciously, they recall their state of mind from previous services and respond according to the post-hypnotic programming.

Watch the people waiting for the service to begin. Many will exhibit external signs of trance -- body relaxation and slightly dilated eyes. Often, they begin swaying back and forth with their hands in the air while sitting in their chairs. Next, the assistant pastor will come out. He usually speaks with a "voice roll".


The rest of this information came be found at:

battlemind

[Aaron]

gold and silver currency in Utah

Utah Legalizes Gold, Silver as Currency, More States to Follow? | GoldAlert

I hope this catches on.

I'm actually not sure why a law has to be passed though.

If I want to accept gold or silver as payment no matter where in the
U.S. I am, I think I can do so. I have to report it as income just like
other income to my understanding.

Bartering is even supposed to be taxable as it is considered "constructive
income" but a lot of that is not reported of course.

Not paying capital gains tax is a really nice step for Utah on gold and silver.

[ashtweth]

Thanks Aarron they only need to go REGIONAL currency now and they will keep all benefits in the community and get out of inflation.

Brazil has 51 community banks BTW

These guys know
This Town Prints Its Own Money
YouTube - ‪This Town Prints Its Own Money!‬‏

UK town prints its own money
YouTube - ‪UK town prints its own money‬‏

North Carolina Town Prints Own Currency to Support Local Business
YouTube - ‪North Carolina Town Prints Own Currency to Support Local Business‬‏

Another UK District Prints its own Money!!!
YouTube - ‪Another UK District Prints its own Money!!!‬‏

USA communities print their own money
YouTube - ‪USA communities print their own money‬‏

Americans Are Printing Their Own Money
YouTube - ‪Americans Are Printing Their Own Money‬‏

Brazil: Favelas make their own money
YouTube - ‪Brazil: Favelas make their own money‬‏

Made in Germany | A Regional Currency
YouTube - ‪Made in Germany | A Regional Currency‬‏



Ash

[wayne.ct]

Monetary Crisis

Tim Gaitner (sp) is threatening that a crisis is brewing because of exceeding the debt ceiling, but nothing dire has happened yet. Congress is in denial. The US dollar is losing value in real terms regardless of the rise vs. the Euro. You will do well to stay alert.

[ashtweth]

If only these guys would talk more about solutions, look open source currency?
Complementary Currency Resource Center

Ash

[aljhoa]

Wanta-Reagan-Mitterrand Protocol Update
The Strauss-Kahn Honeytrap
More on the Bin Laden Psyop Part 1 of 2
United States of America - It can now be reported that the U.S. Senate Banking Committee has recommended criminal prosecution of the gangster investment bank and brokerage Goldman Sachs, as well as the notorious criminal financial giant J. P. Morgan.

Note: And now the plot now thickens. A great deal of the evidence submitted to the Senate Banking Committee, as well as New York state prosecutors, was supplied to them by none other than the current President of the International Monetary Fund and soon to be French Presidential candidate, Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

Tom Heneghan (Tom Heneghan's EXPLOSIVE Intelligence Briefing) | blog on Myspace

[joe 2]

Here`s our glorious leaders "illuminati" pledge, for those awake enough will see they are doing exactly what they say. It is a handfull of elite jews responsible for this.



An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.

Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves.

This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.
The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds.

We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.
We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self.

We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it All.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say.
If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs.

Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other’s hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers.

They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger through images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.
The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.
We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.

This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a monetary system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

Members of these groups [Editor´s Note: the Illuminati] will think they are one with us never knowing the truth.
They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.

This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them.

This reality will be their prison.

They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. [N. of Ed.: the New World Order].

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen.

Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the Secret Covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

[rickoff]

*Sorry, old mind at work. Who is the opposition again that can or will do any correction beyond self serving lip service?

The opposition? That is us, of course - we, the people.

[aljhoa]

Here`s our glorious leaders "illuminati" pledge, for those awake enough will see they are doing exactly what they say. It is a handfull of elite jews responsible for this.



An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.

Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves.

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Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the Secret Covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

MY REPLY

Thank you for sending The Secret Covenant. Since you requested my opinion, it is that this document is not authentic. I believe it is a fairly accurate summary of what is really happening in our world, and it may correctly expresses the dark motives of the highest masters who pursue such plans, but it is highly unlikely that any of them would describe their agenda with such self-condemning language. If they ever put such a plan into print (which would be foolish of them), the language would be couched and self-serving, making every act seem justified and wise.

There are plenty of authentic documents and elements of verifiable history to prove almost everything stated in The Secret Covenant. We do not need to invent anything to make our friends take notice. We should stick with the verifiable record rather than rely on documents that cannot be authenticated. Anonymous sources almost always weaken our case.

Thank you for requesting my analysis. I hope you agree with it.

Ed Griffin
Freedom Force International - Welcome



An Idea Whose Time Has Come
- G. Edward Griffin -
Freedom Force International 1:23:37 - 4 years ago

There is no point in worrying about the erosion of personal freedom that is the reality of our present era if we can do nothing about it. They say that knowledge is power, but that is one of the greatest myths of all history. Knowledge without action is useless and leads only to apathy and despair. So the question is: what type of action can reverse this trend? Writing letters and signing petitions to the same people who have created the problem is not going to do it. Voting for candidates selected by power brokers with hidden agendas will not do it either.

There have been many proposals to reverse the tide of totalitarianism but, after decades of effort, none of them have worked. In this address, G. Edward Griffin, Founder of Freedom Force, tells us why; and the reason is so simple, it will astound you. Once we clear away that single barrier, the plan for a pro-active counter-force falls quickly into place. This is the missing piece of the puzzle, the ultimate solution we have been seeking. Visit www.freedom-force.org«


An Idea Whose Time Has Come - G. Edward Griffin - Freedom Force International

Al

[rickoff]

Did you know...

This Monday, a US Supreme Court decision directed the California prison system to release 46,000 prisoners because of overcrowding. The decision sharply divided the justices. In a dissenting opinion, Justice Antonin Scalia called the ruling “staggering” and “absurd.” Scalia said the majority were ordering the release of “46,000 happy-go-lucky felons.” He added that “terrible things are sure to happen as a consequence of this outrageous order.” Justice Clarence Thomas agreed with him.

There are 9 justices on the Suipreme Court, and I don't know what the actual count was in favor of releasing these felons, or which ones were in favor of it. I think we can safely assume, however, that Obama's appointees, Kagan and Sotomayor, voted in favor of the release.

Heck, why is there an overcrowding problem in the first place? Why not just send these 46,000 prisoners to recently constructed FEMA camps? Oh, on second thought, they can't do that because those facilities are meant to hold us - we, the people, the resistance.

[DrStiffler]

This Monday, a US Supreme Court decision directed the California prison system to release 46,000 prisoners because of overcrowding. The decision sharply divided the justices. In a dissenting opinion, Justice Antonin Scalia called the ruling “staggering” and “absurd.” Scalia said the majority were ordering the release of “46,000 happy-go-lucky felons.” He added that “terrible things are sure to happen as a consequence of this outrageous order.” Justice Clarence Thomas agreed with him.

There are 9 justices on the Suipreme Court, and I don't know what the actual count was in favor of releasing these felons, or which ones were in favor of it. I think we can safely assume, however, that Obama's appointees, Kagan and Sotomayor, voted in favor of the release.

Heck, why is there an overcrowding problem in the first place? Why not just send these 46,000 prisoners to recently constructed FEMA camps? Oh, on second thought, they can't do that because those facilities are meant to hold us - we, the people, the resistance.

Okay!

Heck, why is there an overcrowding problem in the first place? Why not just send these 46,000 prisoners to recently constructed FEMA camps? Oh, on second thought, they can't do that because those facilities are meant to hold us - we, the people, the resistance.

[/QUOTE]

Now I can totally agree with you, yet you error in part of the view. Depending on who you talk to; 1) FEMA Camps do NOT Exit, 2) FEMA Camps are meant for illegals if and when rounded up, 3) FEMA Camps are a safe haven in case of national catastrophe, 4) FEMA Camps are indeed re-education camps for intelligent American Citizens.

Of course the best of all worlds is what silly Jerry Brown said, 'Increase Taxes' to pay for keeping them.

I have my entire life been torn on the prison issue, I feel if you do the crime you serve the time and it don't mean a country club. I worked in a jail as a jailer and they do not need T.V., cell phones, steak and baked potatoes with a kosher cream sauce. They do not deserve unlimited phone privilege and access to law libraries so they can bog down the system with frivolous self filed law suits on civil liberties. I worked there and know that if you are to be punished it is little punishment in many environments. Wrongs done, yes indeed as I have seen that also, yet it does not last in honest jail environments.

How else to corrupt society worse than it is, release all the felons. I am I think preaching to the choir. Its wrong our government is corrupt, we know it and can't seem to get an honest handle on what to do about it, and indeed it may already be to late.

[DrStiffler]

Joining Together

Here is the conundrum with fighting the corrupt government the US is now in control of.

You can not join forces with even (one) other person to talk or work out how to correct the problems and bring us at least partially in order with the constitution, because that second person may indeed be either a real or just a paid flunky agent for the establishment. It would be fool hearty to join any group that stated they were in the business of recovery of our governance. More than one is one two many. Therein is the problem. Yes one person can do something, but not enough to make real change, indeed that one person may make it worse for the rest because of his/her actions.

It takes numbers, large like thinking groups of people that can plan and proceed, yet with 3.5 Million (? maybe far more) people in the US intelligence community and all the paid informants, I can't see it ever getting off the ground.

Maybe I have just been worn down also, it is indeed sad to think about what is coming.