The American Ruling Class

[Mozaar]

@ Mozaar - You haven't answered the questions. Without some form of payment that will be readily and universally accepted by others, what will you do?

I have worked in the financial industry long enough to know that there is a market for everything. So if one would not accept your peanuts, another will and probaly give an asset that the other would accept. Something like that.
This kind of sounds stone age even to me,but money is what is is, nothing. We will readily put an end to it when the time comes.



I finally got to read the Precint Strategy and like I believed at the time you mentioned it, it is a very good idea.Intelligent. But it is patchwork. Representatives sent to the circus in Washington could be swept up with whatever is going down there. I have not heard anything major coming out of Washington save the audit on the Fed. And thats led by Ron Paul. Please share what these representatives chosen via the Precint Strategy have done now that they are voted in.
What I see happening in the future is that all barriers will break down. It is a long drawn out process as more and more people would be simply dissatisfied with the way things going in their own individual lives. When that happens the world will be peaceful and live in harmony. Yes, it will be done without any new rules. I am not apocalyptic like some people suggesting 2012 would be then end of all times. I am just saying divine law is already penetrating this world and changes are currently taking place. You just need to be connected to it through prayer and meditation.
Those impatient for change in there lives will ultimately need to pick up arms and fight and would need new rules for the society they wish to change. This is how it happens all the time. If you really want to see changes in the short term, its a neccesity to carry a big stick. Common sense logic just does not pick up any steam. However, the love of yourself and others as yourself will and it will not be by physical force or threat of harm. Its not an easy short term solution either, it will take time.
"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul"
-Jesus

[ANTIQUER]

Tally sticks

Hi Ash;

Thanks for the link. Stiller is really good. This one on tally sticks is even more interesting as it shows the power and long term effect of government issued money as against "borrowed from the bankers" money.

YouTube - SR 10 January 9, 2010 Still Report

President Lincoln printed greenbacks with the same effect per previous post by Rick.
Unfortunately he paid the ultimate price for scuttling the bankers.

Al

[Joit]

Nice finding, this Video, Ash and so true.
"All we need to get is Education and take away our silver Slippers."
It even sounds like, we all are allready henpecked.

[ANTIQUER]

Precinct system

Mozaar;

I have worked in the financial industry long enough to know that there is a market for everything. So if one would not accept your peanuts, another will and probaly give an asset that the other would accept. Something like that.

Your right. That's how "toxic securities" got passed around. That went well, didn't it!

I finally got to read the Precint Strategy and like I believed at the time you mentioned it, it is a very good idea.Intelligent. But it is patchwork. Representatives sent to the circus in Washington could be swept up with...

This is not patchwork and it is not just an idea. It is the current system and is how every local and state government puts up candidates for local and state offices and sends rep's. to the national conventions to nominate presidential candidates. They are controlled by state committees elected by precinct members. The trick is to wrest control of the committees away from the powerful elite that now control them and send their people to Washington. Look at the record of your own congressmen if you want to see what they are doing, that's how they got there. Does their record meet with your approval or would you rather have someone in those positions that do as you wish? If yes then get involved.

This will not be a short term solution as these people will fight with every low-down trick in their playbook, but enough people are fed up that I think it will happen, maybe sooner than later. Watch the Mass. elections this week; they will be a harbinger of the future. If enough people "see the light", they will turn on those leaders at the precinct level in many states and force a major change in the system by replacing them. There is already a "grassroots groundswell" to that end here in Florida led by TEA party people and Ron Paul supporters. I suggest you get involved in your local precinct now so your vote can help bring about that change in your area. It's easy; you can find info. on your local Demo./Rep. precinct from Google.

Al

[ashtweth]

Audit the Fed

Hi Joint/Ant and ALL

These guys beat them..the SYSTEM can.
Money masters

All as they need to do is AUDIT the FED to enull the debt (it will be shown to be non legit) then show the system which creates security for this, printing our own money (Governments)

Ash

[rickoff]

I finally got to read the Precint Strategy and like I believed at the time you mentioned it, it is a very good idea.Intelligent. But it is patchwork. Representatives sent to the circus in Washington could be swept up with whatever is going down there. I have not heard anything major coming out of Washington save the audit on the Fed. And thats led by Ron Paul. Please share what these representatives chosen via the Precint Strategy have done now that they are voted in.

Your above statement leads me to believe that you either did not actually read about the Precinct Strategy, or that you did not correctly comprehend what it is all about. This is a current and ongoing strategy. The representatives in Washington were placed in office by the 2008 and earlier elections, whereas the ones who find their way to Washington because of Precinct Strategy efforts will be elected in the 2010 and 2012 elections. They aren't there yet, but we can make it happen if we get involved in the strategy. Please take a few minutes to watch this video about the Precinct Strategy, and then tell me if you think it is a worthy plan that you would be willing to get involved in. Remember - in 2010 we have the opportunity to replace 435 Congressmen, and about 1/3 of our 100 senators. Replacing them with anybody new would be better than keeping the ones we have now, but replacing them with people of integrity could accomplish all of the government reform that we so desperately need in order to set things straight. So think about it - do you really want positive change? If so, please get involved. 2010 is already here, and time is ticking.

YouTube - The Precinct Project - THE Strategy That Will Allow Us To Take Back Control of Our Elections

This strategy will work if we do our part. Read this story of a group in Nevada who used this strategy to take control of their local precinct: New Page 1


Best wishes,

Rick

[rickoff]

This one on tally sticks is even more interesting as it shows the power and long term effect of government issued money as against "borrowed from the bankers" money.

YouTube - SR 10 January 9, 2010 Still Report

President Lincoln printed greenbacks with the same effect per previous post by Rick.

Yes, and so did President Kennedy. It is quite interesting to note that, only one day after Kennedy's assassination, all the United States notes which Kennedy had issued (more than 4 billion dollars) were called out of circulation. All of the money President Kennedy had created was destroyed, and not a word was said to the American people. Read more about Lincoln and Kennedy here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/75187-post182.html


The latest Still Report, done January 17, is available now.
YouTube - SR 11 Why Government Is Good.mov
You will notice that, at the end, Bill Still calls for us to kick out all the "weasels" currently in Washington, and take back control of our government. And we can do that with the Precinct Strategy. It really is the only peaceful strategy that can bring about positive near term change.

Rick

[rickoff]

The Fat Cat Banker Bonuses

Thanks to government mandated (though widely opposed), taxpayer funded bailouts of large banks that we were told were "too big to fail," these banks thrived in 2009 and many of them made so much gains that they have now paid off their bailout loan so as to avoid new regulations that would put limits on bonuses. Here's what Yale Law professor Jonathan Macey had to say about this in The Wall Street Journal:

"We are on the cusp of what is going to be the most highly visible and contentious bank bonus season in history. Bonuses are predicted to run into the billions of dollars, and many of the banks that got the most bailout money are paying the biggest bonuses. The two issues [bonuses and bailouts] are intimately related — and as long as the administration continues down its too-big-to-fail regulatory path, Mr. Obama will stay in the business of paying huge bonuses to fat cat bankers.”

[rickoff]

Government's cure for unemployment?


Due to the current financial situation caused by the slowdown in the economy, Congress has decided to implement a scheme to put workers of 50 years of age and above on early retirement, thus creating jobs and reducing unemployment.

This scheme will be known as RAPE (Retire Aged People Early).

Persons selected to be RAPED can apply to Congress to be considered for the SHAFT program (Special Help After Forced Termination).

Persons who have been RAPED and SHAFTED will be reviewed under the SCREW program (System Covering Retired-Early Workers).

A person may be RAPED once, SHAFTED twice and SCREWED as many times as Congress deems appropriate.

Persons who have been RAPED could get AIDS (Additional Income for Dependants & Spouse) or HERPES (Half Earnings for Retired Personnel Early Severance).

Obviously persons who have AIDS or HERPES will not be SHAFTED or SCREWED any further by Congress.

Persons who are not RAPED and are staying on will receive as much SH*T (Special High Intensity Training) as possible. Congress has always prided
themselves on the amount of SH*T they give our citizens.

Should you feel that you do not receive enough SH*T, please bring this to the attention of your Congressman, who has been trained to give you all the SH*T you can handle.

Sincerely,
The Committee for Economic Value of Individual Lives (E.V.I.L.)

[h20power]

Wow, that pretty much sums it all up into a nice and tidy package and it fits on one page too.


h2opower.

[aljhoa]

aka: Money Changers, Banksters, Lawyers and Weeds

YouTube - "The Secret of Oz" trailer - How to Fix the 2010 Depression - directed by Bill Still

"The truth is heavy therefore few care to carry it"


The following are from "Text Comments" of
YouTube - "The Secret of Oz" trailer - How to Fix the 2010 Depression - directed by Bill Still



bstill3 (1 month ago)
Our problem is we haven't tended the garden of our Republic and so weeds have literally taken over. All we need to do is to understand this analogy and fix it. We have let them steal our government and now we are paying the price.

bstill3 (1 month ago)
This is the sort of half-thinking that leaves mired in the bankers' plans. Julius Caesar did NOT say NO to the bankers. Where did you come up with that fiction?
See:
Coins of Rome about Parthia:
Julius Caesar (49-44 B.C.)
Julius Caesar (49-44 B.C.)

Money in Ancient Times
46 BC - Upon his triumphant return to Rome in 46 BC, Julius Caesar showered his army with gold coins: 200 coins for every common solder, 400 for every centurion, and 800 each for every tribune. Caesar commissioned substantial gold minting assignments for the payment.
Oesterreichische Nationalbank*-*Money in Ancient Times

Patrick S. J. Carmack
The Money Changers

3. MONEY CHANGING IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE
But the money-changing scam did not originate in Jesus' day.
Two hundred years before Christ, Rome was having trouble with its Money Changers.
Two early Roman emperors had tried to diminish the power of the Money Changers by reforming usury laws and limiting land ownership to 500 acres. Both were assassinated.

In 48 BC, Julius Caesar took back from the Money Changers the power to coin money and then minted coins for the benefit of all. With this new, plentiful supply of money, he built great public works. By making money plentiful, Caesar won the love of the common people. But the Money Changers hated him. Some believe this was an important factor in Caesar's assassination.

One thing is for sure: with the death of Caesar came the demise of plentiful money in Rome. Taxes increased, as did corruption.
Eventually the Roman money supply was reduced by 90 per cent.
As a result, the common people lost their lands and homes-just as has happened and will happen again in America to the few who still own their own land and homes.
The-money-changers-ch2-5.

Al

[rickoff]

Finding Information about your local precinct

My own experience with the Precinct Strategy so far has shown that the hardest part is simply finding the local nuts and bolts information that you need in order to get started. The following should help others:

The toughest part of implementing the Precinct Strategy is to find information about your local precinct (where and when precinct meetings are held, etc.) and the rules governing how people can run for office of precinct executive, precinct captain, or precinct committeeman. Getting this information can be difficult, because those in the know don't want us to know. Generally, to vote for precinct officers one must have attended at least 2 precinct meetings before the one in which voting takes place. To run for a precinct officer position, you need to obtain signatures (usually 10) of registered voters living in your local precinct who support your candidacy, and these must be people registered in the same party you are running for a position in. You must obtain the signatures on a precinct approved form, and submit them by a designated deadline date in order to have your name on the precinct ballot. Voting on that ballot normally occurs during a state primary election, but may be at another designated time. The currently installed officers don't want us to know anything about precinct meetings, candidacy rules, or voting procedures, so we have to really dig to come up with that information.

The first place to look for information is to find the Yahoo group for your state's Precinct Strategy network. Look here: Yahoo! Groups: Search Results
Find the group for your state and join, then contact members to ask for the information you need.

Also, check with your state government website. Here it is Maine.gov, and other states would be listed similarly. At Maine.gov I can find a link to a Voter Information Lookup page that tells me what Ward and Precinct I live in. With that information, you can contact the Municipal Clerk at your town hall and ask for information on obtaining your voting precinct map, and who you might contact regarding precinct meeting information. If the clerk is unable to help you, contact the State Election Board for your state. Here it is the Maine Elections Division in Augusta, Maine. They should be able to provide information to you, including what the requirements are to run for local precinct executive, precinct captain, or precinct committeeman. A Google search will help you find your state Election Division, and you may also find this listed on your State Government website.

Here is a link that may help you find your local Election Board office. This link is for Maine, but after clicking the link simply remove ME from the end of the address shown in your web browser and substitute your two letter postal state abbreviation, then hit your Enter key. Project Vote Smart - Local Election Offices

Another excellent resource, explaining what information you need, and how to find it is here: http://www.networkamerica.org/FAQ.htm

The Precinct Strategy really does work, and a great example of this, showing how ordinary citizens in Las Vegas successfully implemented the strategy, can be found here: New Page 1

Rick

[rickoff]

Federal Judge Carter sets Trial Date for Obama's Presidential Eligibility hearing?

Note: I'm not at all certain that the following story is true. It is widely posted on the Internet, but could be simply a disinformation campaign meant to discredit legitimate "birther" arguments and evidence by making false statements that appear to support the "birther" stance. This is what I am beginning to suspect, because snopes.com says this is a false rumor. The court case was real, but snopes says that Judge Carter dismissed the case.

snopes.com: Judge Carter Orders Obama to Prove Eligibility


The Internet circulated story goes like this:

"The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010!

Many concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in Chief. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other records that he has hidden from the American people.

Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama's request for dismissal. He indicated there was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe that. Obama would prefer a "kangaroo court" instead of a Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter denies Obama's motion for dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will force Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner (if he has one).

The judge, WHO IS A FORMER U.S. MARINE, repeated several times that this is A VERY SERIOUS CASE which must be resolved quickly so that the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of war. He basically said OBAMA MUST PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY to the court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their President!

The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter would have none of it and cut them off several times. Obama's attorneys left the courtroom after the 90 minute hearing looking defeated and nervous.

Great day in America for the U.S. Constitution! The truth about Barack Obama's eligibility will be known fairly soon - Judge Carter practically guaranteed it!"

[Aaron]

passport

I'd like to know what PASSPORT Obama/Soetoro was using when he was
visiting Pakastan at a time when it was illegal for American citizens to visit
there.

[Aaron]

Council of Governors

This is ridiculous:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...tive_order.pdf

"council of governors" - Google Search