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  • Originally posted by bistander View Post
    What sense does it make to assume the weapon and ammo of shooter 2? Unless that sound signature has a .223 "fingerprint", that probable location is nothing more than a wildass guess.

    Appears to me that he presents an incomplete analysis to promote that there was a second shooter and that the authorities are hiding that from us. Using some of the facts to draw premature conclusions for the sake of a conspiracy theory.

    I wonder how many rounds Paddock fired. Surely they must have a brass count from the hotel rooms. He hit like about 600 people. How many bullets were left to strike the pavement unimpeded?
    Yes, well clearly Rick is a real patriot whose created an instructional video intended to enlighten the general public to the science of ballistics, and so that the public may understand how to do this themselves, so that by following these basic procedures they can themselves form critical questions of their own.

    Who would not want the people to understand this?

    Calling this instructional video a "conspiracy theory' is offensive to intelligence and unworthy of the effort made by the creator of the video. This is a video whose purpose is intended to secure our liberties with knowledge.

    Who would not want the people to understand that?

    A theory is a testable hypothesis and means it's applying scientific procedures: Happens every day in courtrooms in America. Conspiracy in criminal acts is about as basic as washing your hands after using the toilet. It's a given that if two people are involved in a crime they conspired to accomplish the act: The evidence shows more than one shooter.

    Who would not want the public to know there's more than one shooter? Who wants to bury this just like Oklahoma, like 9/11, like Gulf of Tonkin, like a lot of history with the monikers of "conspiracy theory," or the "lone Wolf Gunman."

    This was a politically inspired crime that had a specific target.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 11-08-2017, 03:07 AM.
    "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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    • Are YOU complicit too?

      https://www.silverdoctors.com/headli...h-rotten-frui/

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      • Good article, but the title; "The rotten fruit?" Interesting choice of words

        Going back to the mass shooting in Las Vegas, the thing that I find really interesting is the location itself, meaning the city and all it stands for and is known for. Now I noticed this comment on the article at the link. Posted by Rex who says:

        "You know what is stupid?"

        "CALLING THE RACIST, ANTI-WHITE, GLOBALIST NEOCOM ashkeNAZI JEW WORLD ORDER CROWD 'the deep state' "


        And the point is the mass shooting is also likely a warning. Not a warning to us people who don't matter, but a warning to whoever it is that owns and controls all that Las Vegas itself stands for. It was a warning signaled to organized crime because everyone knows you don't crap in your own backyard, which makes it hard to believe anyone of significance in that town could be complicit. Personally I don't see the owners of that city allowing this to take place inside their own head quarters, and so it's an act by an outsider, but who is this outsider then?

        Tradition is to slay a lower minion/servant as a warning before declaring open warfare, and seen through the eyes of the self proclaimed owners of humanity, we people are their minions and servants: The slaves shall serve.
        Last edited by Gambeir; 10-21-2017, 10:35 PM.
        "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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        • Know thy enemy

          Eye-Opening Survey Shows No.1 Fear of US Citizens is Government, NOT Terrorism - Waking Times Media

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          • Kunstler

            2 more from Kunstler.
            Thar She Blows! - Kunstler

            Swamp-O-Rama - Kunstler

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            • I came across this superior analysis a few hours ago. It's about the on-going turmoil in Saudi Arabia, the push for a war on Iran, and the Las Vegas Shooting. I'm deleting the later half of my own previous post.

              I highly recommend this extended comment by a poster going by the name of SteveDave123 and his post can be read at Blacklisted News found at this link; A list of Saudi officials arrested over the weekend…and their ties to Podesta Group

              Please pay special attention to this. I am reproducing this posters comment in full because of the extensive and insightful superior analysis. Evidently I have to do this in two posts because of the length.

              SteveDave123 is evidently reposting another post from somewhere's else (Reddit); SteveDave123 (*said• 10 hours ago)
              I think this McReddit user may be on to something..

              ----------------

              People of Interest:

              (This list is a bit hard to follow because of the long names. This chart : http://www.businessinsider.... will help you clarify who is who.)

              King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud (King Saud. Deceased) : King of Saudi Arabia (1932-1953)

              King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Deceased) : 5th son of King
              Saud. King of Saudi Arabia until his death in 2015. Successor is King
              Salman

              Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Henceforth King Salman): Current King
              of Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA). 8th son of deceased King Abdulaziz
              Ibn Saud.

              Mohammad bin Salman (Henceforth Crown Prince Mohammad): Son of King
              Salman. Currently next in line to be king after King Salman.

              Muqrin bin Abdulaziz (Former Deputy Crown Prince. Henceforth Muqrin)
              : 9th son of deceased King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud. Was next in line to be
              king if King Salman had died before being crowned king. IS THE FATHER
              OF Mansour bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud! THE MAN KILLED IN THE
              HELICOPTOR CRASH ON 11/5/2017.

              Mansour bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Henceforth Mansour) : Son
              of Muqrin bin Abdulaziz. Died 11/5/2017, the day of the failed coup on
              the throne of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

              Alwaleed bin Talal (Henceforth Talal) : Billionaire businessmen.
              Grandson of King Saud. Has ties to DNC, Clinton, Podesta. Arrested
              11/4/2017 for corruption. Owns The Four Seasons at Mandalay Bay in Las
              Vegas (Four Seasons occupy the top floors of Mandalay Bay) Owns shares
              in Twitter as well as other high-tech silicon valley companies. Has had
              spats with Trump in the past.

              I know that's a mouthful of names, but bear with me. Just remember 4 names: Salman, Mohammad, Muqrin, and Mansour.

              Do you remember how President Trump visited Saudi Arabia back in May
              of 2017? Do you remember how warmly he was greeted by King Salman? I
              do. It was a spectacle. Why was he greeted so welcomingly? After all,
              President Obama's reception was... shall we say, less than grand. Do
              you remember how after Trump's visit, Saudi Arabia started becoming more
              open in their policies? Women can drive there now. Did you notice how
              the Syrian rebellion became quiet? Did you notice how quickly ISIS was
              crushed after the visit? Why did Saudi Arabia suddenly want to get
              their oil companies listed on the NYSE? What could have caused this?

              To answer this, we have to look a little further back. Back to around 2010.

              It all goes back to fracking. You see, the Kindom of Saudi Arabia
              (KSA) has always relied heavily on its vast petrol reserves for wealth
              and prosperity. And they were ruthless. OPEC. The cartel of gasoline.
              You can't count the number of times throughout history that OPEC used
              its power to crush governments, manipulate prices, control supplies, and
              fund activities. If there ever was a international group of bullies,
              OPEC was it. And at the head of this organization was the mighty KSA.

              Then came the fracking boom. Suddenly, the world was no longer at
              the mercy of OPEC. This made them nervous. So, they did what they
              always do. They pumped out more petroleum, driving the price of gas to
              lowest in decades. What was their objective? To bankrupt these
              fracking businesses. KSA is rich. Very rich. They figured, we'll just
              drive gas prices unbelievably low and take the loss until all these
              fracking business startups crumble. Do you remember how cheap gas got
              between 2013-2016? It was ridiculous, wasn't it? But what they didn't
              count on was just how cheap fracking had become. So many of these
              business didn't go bankrupt. So they took another step. To convince
              the world that fracking was bad for the environment. So they lobbied
              and supplied funds to the Democratic party. Why? Because the leftist
              are usually the ones who support ANY and ALL environmental regulations.
              Do you remember all the legal battles that fracking had to go through?
              Hell, it's still illegal in most blue states. Do you now understand
              why the Saudis donated so much money to the Clinton campaign? She was
              HEAVILY favored to win and if she did, you can bet your ass that
              illegalizing fracking would have been on the top of her list, returning
              us to dependence on arab oil. But... this didn't work either.
              Fracking continued. And then, a ****storm of reality hit them hard.

              You see, KSA had vastly underestimated the amount of total shale
              reserves in North America. They had no idea that so much of this stuff
              exists. They thought maybe they could ride it out if the reserves would
              dry up in a decade or so. But nope. We have enough shale to supply us
              for at least 50 years. Hmmm... big problem.

              So, if you're King Salman, what do you do? Well, there's only one
              thing you can do. Give up the reliance on oil production and try to use
              existing wealth to stay wealthy. To modernize its trade to include
              more than just exports of oil. They would need to build an entire
              industrial country from scratch. To do that, he needed the help of the
              USA. And that's where President Trump comes in.

              You see, the May 2017 meeting between Trump and King Salman (and his
              son Mohammad), was not just another meeting. It was a business meeting.
              King Salman asked Trump for help. Trump was more than willing to give
              it (like listing the oil companies on the NYSE) but his help would come
              with a price. Liberalization and the stop of illegal funding. No more
              contributions to American politics. No more supplying funds to
              terrorists or splinter groups. King Salman took the deal. All of a
              sudden, women were allowed to drive. ISIS was retreating. Syrian
              rebels suddenly ran out of ammunition. Yay. All good up to this point.

              Now comes the bad

              Not all the royalties in KSA are into this. They don't like losing
              the power they once had. What's worse, they don't want to become
              liberal. They now start resenting King Salmon. They start plotting
              against him. At the forefront of this movement is none other than the
              previous Deputy Crown Prince, Muqrin, and his son, Mansour (the man
              killed in the helicopter crash of 11/5/17).

              October 1, 2017. The top floors of Mandalay Bay isn't Mandalay Bay,
              but is Four Seasons, owned by billionaire Talal. Who was occupying that
              whole floor that night? I can't remember where, but I heard that the
              whole floor was reserved for that week. Now, no one would do that
              unless they were Saudi royalty. We don't know for sure, but my guess is
              Crown Prince Mohammad. We know it wasn't King Salman, because he was
              in Russia at the time. https://www.theguardian.com...

              The plan is to take out the crown prince. Then kill King Salman.
              With the King and the Crown Prince dead, who is next in line? Yup. The
              former deputy crown prince, Muqrin. So, posing as terrorists who
              wanted to buy the guns for some terrorist attack, they dupe the CIA or
              FBI to supply the guns to the death squad. Their real plan is to climb
              the stairs right after the deal and kill the VIP in the floors above
              them. This is why the weapons cashe was located on the 32nd floor.
              They would only have to climb a few stairs or take the elevator up a
              little to start the killing. Now, here's what happened that night:

              ** With the post from u/kneejerk55, I have modified the events of the night. I think it fits much better**

              Paddock is the contact man to supply the guns. He meets a couple
              of assassins ahead of time (remember, the shooting starts at 10:05).
              At this point, Paddock is thinking this is a gun deal. Only a few
              magazines are loaded. He merely wants to show the customers how to
              load the chamber etc... What he doesn't know is that the advance team
              was sent to secure the floor. That all but one entry point to the floor
              would be barricaded (crucial since the reason Campos becomes suspicious
              of the blocked doors is what ultimately leads him to investigate) The
              reason for the barricade is that once the assault starts, the assassins
              want to make sure to impede the authorities as much as possible from
              reaching the top floors.

              CIA/FBI (or Trump's own intelligence) got wind of the
              assassination that was about to take place. Immediate action is taken
              to round up the assassins. Remember, we're talking about an army of
              assassins here. You can't kill a Crown Prince who's protected by 30
              armed bodyguards by pulling a Jack Ruby. I estimate at least 20
              assassins in total.

              What the assassins didn't know was that the prince had disguised
              himself as a regular dude to enjoy the nightlife in Vegas. (Saudi
              princes have been known to do this) He had slipped away from the
              Mandalay and was at the Tropicana playing some cards. As soon as the
              FBI (or some other agency) learned of the assassination plot, they
              stormed the Tropicana and extracted the prince. The video can be seen
              here.

              [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVHmshtmDqo[/VIDEO]

              They lead him out of the casino and escort him to the nearest helipad
              to be picked up. BUT, on the way, they encounter some resistance from a
              few assassins. Hence the firefight at the airport. Eventually, he
              makes it to the chopper and is whisked away. This explains the flight
              radar reports you see all over the net.
              Last edited by Gambeir; 11-08-2017, 03:28 AM.
              "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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              • Con't- from above;

                Meanwhile, the FBI has gathered up as many of the assassins as
                they can. A few are armed with sidearms. They don't have rifles yet
                because the rendezvous with Paddock hasn't occurred yet. Hence the
                random firefights at various casinos that night. A few are killed.
                Hence the Laura Loomer videos of covered up dead people.

                [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=6oxAZIpSUuM[/VIDEO]

                The assassins already in Paddock's room gets a call. They are
                told that the Prince is not in his suite above. That he's being
                escorted out of the Tropicana. They start panicking. If they get
                caught in this plot to assassinate the crown prince, not only are they
                dead, but their employer is dead as well. They come up with a plan.
                They will kill Paddock and start firing on the crowd below. They're
                gonna make him a crazy lone gunman. So they kill Paddock. They break a
                window. They pick up a rifle and start firing at the crowd below.
                After a couple of mags, they realize that the other mags aren't loaded!
                Holy ****. They start reloading as fast as possible. This is why the
                average time between bursts of fire is over 40 seconds. One of them
                gets an idea. Let me go to the other room and break that window and
                shoot at the fuel tanks at a nearby airport. This will draw the police
                away from the Mandalay and they can escape. So he goes and attempts
                just that. Unfortunately, the tanks do not blow up. By this time,
                Jesus Campos is knocking on the door. So they just unload on him. This
                is why there are (supposedly) 200 shots through the door. Campos
                escapes a lethal shot and calls in security.

                Now the assassins are getting nervous. They realize that someone
                in the hotel knows that someone is firing. They fire as much as they
                can. They are thinking as soon as this barrage is done, we run. But
                the swat team starts knocking on the door. ****. The assassins realize
                they're screwed. So the first one shoots himself. (This is the first
                of the single shots you hear at the end). The second assassin isn't so
                sure. He doesn't want to die. So after 10 seconds of courage
                gathering, he shoots himself as well.

                The SWAT team bursts in and finds 3 bodies. They start asking
                questions. But because the FBI is already there (remember, they
                extracted the prince) they take over. They quickly assess the
                situation. They realize the implications. They remove the 2 assassins
                bodies, take a picture of Paddock lying there, and release it to 4chan
                to solidify their narrative.

                Paddock is made the patsy. Why? Because if a failed Saudi
                assassination attempt was responsible for the deaths, if the FBI/CIA had
                supplied the guns that killed 58 innocent people (not counting Paddock
                since he's an asset), then two things would happen. One, we would
                demand that we go to war with Saudi Arabia. And two, which ever
                organization that Paddock worked for would be utterly dismantled.
                ---
                Wew lads, I know. Quite a story. Now, let's fast forward to one month later.

                We know a missile was intercepted by the Saudi military on November 3
                or 4th. This was probably the final effort by the anti King Salman
                group. This was their last ditch effort to kill him. OR, it was staged
                to give King Salman the excuse to round everyone up in retaliation of
                the assassination attempt. We know that MASSIVE raids and the rounding
                of Saudi princes took place on the 5th. I will guarantee you that all
                these people are anti Salman/Mohammad. And who was just killed? Yes.
                The son of Muqrin, Mansour. Mansour's death was retaliation. I have no
                doubt of it. He was executed.

                Ok, now that this has happened, what's next? Well, my guess will be
                that we will learn all of the funding that has been coming out of Saudi
                Arabia for the past decade. It will expose their connections to the
                DNC. We will learn that they have been at the root of all the turmoil
                in the Middle East. Then, they'll all be executed.

                Do I win the award for the longest post ever at /r/conspiracy? Thanks for reading.

                P.S. The story works just fine with Paddock as a private illegal
                guns dealer, meaning the FBI/CIA only helped to foil the assassination
                attempt. He doesn't have to be working for an alphabet agency.
                However, given the clues from his life style (or the utter lack of it),
                I'm betting that he was an asset.


                Other Links
                "EXPLOSIVE" LEAKED SECRET ISRAELI CABLE CONFIRMS ISRAELI-SAUDI COORDINATION TO PROVOKE WAR

                "Explosive" Leaked Secret Israeli Cable Confirms Israeli-Saudi Coordination To Provoke War

                G.A. Stewart: The Age of Desolation. Foremost expert on Nostradmus, broke the time codes to the quatrains a number of years ago. Has been correct in his analysis more than I'd like to imagine possible. Some may find this useful and others scary. Ultimately...food for thought.
                THE AGE OF DESOLATION
                "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                • well constructed

                  YES, you win the prize.

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                  • Counter coup

                    The Inside Story of the Saudi Royal Purge

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                    • Originally posted by Danny B View Post
                      YES, you win the prize.
                      Thanks but of course not my work, I only wish I had such skill and knowledge. I tried to briefly locate the Reddit thread where I believe this analysis was first posted but didn't find it.

                      I also forwarded the same information to G.A. Stewart because I've previously communicated with him and know Stewart has a keen and superior intellect with his pulse on all of this. So regardless of personal views on Nostradamus, I would encourage people to remember to keep an eye on G. A. Stewarts' Website, and to visit there in the future, as the posted information changes as Stewart see's fit. I would not be surprised to see future reference to the Las Vegas incident mentioned.
                      THE AGE OF DESOLATION
                      "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                      • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
                        personal views on Nostradamus
                        Paradise Papers

                        FeelTheBern

                        James Simons has called for higher taxes for ‘rich guys like me’


                        Al
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                        • Corporate Cooking Poisoned America and the World.

                          Bernie is, of course, entirely correct and the statistics he rattles off are horrific as well as true, but appeasement is giving the Nazi's what they want, and we all know how that turns out don't we?

                          That's all any compulsory scheme really is. It's corporate fascism cloaked in a communist flag, and completely anti-american.

                          The primary job of the government, of the people of these United States, is to insure liberty by guarding freedom against control by enemies, both internal and external, and that means against the unwarranted invasions upon our civil rights, upon public property, and upon private property by private enterprise; not the other way round.

                          The internal enemy of the people are so-called private business concerns and associations which have undermined the laws and rights of the American People. It's that simple.


                          People who have a bottomless pit of greed are called psychopaths.
                          "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                          • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
                            The internal enemy of the people are so-called private business concerns and associations which have undermined the laws and rights of the American People. It's that simple.

                            People who have a bottomless pit of greed are called psychopaths.
                            greedy e.g. "little monsters"
                            sociopaths e.g. USMC Boot-camp "killers"
                            psychopaths e.g. born killers


                            bottomless pit of - “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
                            Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority;
                            still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”




                            Al
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                            • The opinions of people in China compared to what the media in the USA or EU would have us believe about Trump and how democracy is seen.
                              When the narrative is controlled the differences are 180 degrees out of phase. Compare for yourself remember speaking about democracy in China.
                              https://youtu.be/RJN33DJHo10

                              A China state run media
                              https://youtu.be/Ix2xYvMcW2A
                              Last edited by mikrovolt; 11-13-2017, 11:59 AM.

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                              • European ruling class

                                France and Germany want to build a European army. Guess what they have in mind. "The female German minister of defence just yesterday let slip that she supports regime change in Poland."
                                https://www.theautomaticearth.com/20...-trump-python/
                                Most of the article is about the madness in Britain.

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