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  • Originally posted by dutchdivco View Post
    Of all the political argments currently in the public discourse, the argument AGAINST voter I.D. has got to be the well,....lamest. ........requiring a valid I.D. would be a good step, that would at least make them work harder. And I really think that most people think the argument that such a measure 'inconveniences and disenfranchises' poor voters is absurd. Arizona's law would give such people, (if they weren't drivers), a state issued photo I.D at no charge, once they proved who they were.
    I have a friend living in Texas, where they did pass a tough voter ID law, and it was put in effect in time for this mid term election. He says that each person's ID is checked both for validity and against the voter's listing on the rolls. If there is any discrepancy then the voter is ushered out the door. It's so easy, and so sensible. I'm still trying to get them to do this here in Maine, where they simply use an honor system where you walk in at the polling place, say your name, they put a check mark next to your name on the voter roll, and hand you a ballot with no questions asked. There is never a question unless your name doesn't appear on the roll, or has already been check marked. And if your name has been check marked, and you are able to convince these people that you really haven't voted yet, and they allow you to vote, the person who fraudulently gave them your name earlier may very likely have negated your real vote because of the fact that both votes will now be counted. They of course cannot pull out the fraudulent vote because there is no marking system that would identify the ballot that was inserted in the reader earlier. I really think that a vast improvement over the current system would be to include a numbered stub on each ballot which could easily be detached and retained by the voter. After voting and returning to home, the stub number could be typed in to a search at a ballot confirmation website, and the result shown would either confirm the choices the voter had actually made at the voting booth, or it would show that the voter's choices had been bastardized. If the latter were the case, then there would be a provision at that website for filing a formal complaint. After determining that a complaint was filed by a valid registered voter, the ballot would be pulled using its matching ID number, discarded, and a new ballot would be issued to the voter. Of course this particular method would only apply to hand marked or punched paper ballots.

    Sounds reasonable, right?

    Rick
    Last edited by rickoff; 11-06-2014, 09:07 PM.
    "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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    • Regarding the sweeping results of this election, I have no reason to think that it resulted from voting honesty and integrity, as one can be certain that all kinds of dirty tricks were utilized. Rather, the results show quite clearly that the People were totally fed up with the Obama agenda and simply gave Congress a mandate to stop that agenda. The lamestream news pundits are feverishly attempting to have us believe that this tidal wave of opposition is merely a demand that Congress begin accomplishing something by "working with the president" to finally get legislation passed. How ridiculous! If that's what the People really wanted then they would have voted Democrat.

      The upcoming "lame duck" session will certainly be a dangerous time, as "Dirty Harry" Reid will do everything possible to quickly push through as many repugnant pieces of legislation and pork-fest add-ons as possible. And in the House, Boehner is likely to play along, just as he usually does. Now that Republicans control both houses of Congress, we should start seeing legislation to repeal or defund ObamaCare, audit the Federal Reserve, cut taxes, and cut spending. What we actually will see is probably something else. Of course they will claim that they can't do any of this because Barry will veto any such legislation, and that they don't have a large enough majority in the Senate for an override of his veto.

      If past experience holds true this time around then it will be more of "Meet the new boss - same as the old boss," as The Who sang in Won't Get Fooled Again.
      Last edited by rickoff; 11-07-2014, 07:37 PM. Reason: sp
      "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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      • Here come Da Judge, Here come Da Judge

        Originally posted by rickoff View Post
        Regarding the sweeping results of this election.............................


        If past experience holds true this time around then it will be more of "Meet the new boss - same as the old boss," as The Who sang in Won't Get Fooled Again.

        That is another thing I left out with the South Carolina Attorney General. He was getting very very old and his son took over right in his office when he got sick and finally died.

        There are no elections, Period. Same as the ole Boss. These people are inside the secret order. Those black slaves better lay still and mind their manners so they can come out ahead of the Game.


        The white SLAVE LORDS down there have complete rule, when the appeals court rulings over throw the "Grand Jury" consistently, you can see that buying off the judges is no problem.

        And if money is not the issue the reasoning is because that THEY are protecting other organizations, such as the Catholic Priest tying up little boys to the bed rail.

        Same Ole Boss, Yes.

        Election booths are for people who are easily made to believe everything is run by the people so they run to the poles. This makes the manipulators look better because they can hide behind these facts. The facts are that people vote and this looks great to the masses when these RULERS can show a document that makes it look like the people voted THEM in.

        Election poles are a smoke screen used to hide the lie and the people continue to go even though they can't figure out whats going on with the system.

        They are doing what the RULERS knew they would do, Keep going to the poles. The voting poles and voter are helping these people ignorantly.

        Mike
        Last edited by BroMikey; 11-07-2014, 01:35 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Danny B View Post
          "The central planners are in a state of fear and panic"
          "In short, everything the central planners have tried has failed to bring widespread prosperity and has instead concentrated it dangerously at the top. Whether by coincidence or conspiracy, every possible escape hatch for 99.5% of the people has been welded shut."
          "They've spurred the greatest wealth gap ever in US history, greater even than at the extremes of the Great Depression, apparently without the slightest concerns for Plutarch's ancient admonition that "An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics."
          Central Planners Are In A State of Panic - Chris Martenson | Peak Prosperity


          From what we know of the modes of operation of the PTB/Elites, they are adept at creating situations, crises, and disasters that allow them to increase control - not lose it. Such a scenario would completely destroy the infrastructure through which they move and operate, from high level finance to media manipulation, to academia, right down to the local public school system. They have been heavily invested in this infrastructure for a very long time.

          The rise of psychopaths to positions of great power in government, institutions and corporations is a subject that SOTT.net has been warning of for many years. The psychopath is an excellent puzzle piece in the fractal pyramid due to his/her keen 'instinctive awareness' of who's boss, and can be counted on to always act in perceived self-interest. The actions of psychopaths are wholly without conscience and without benefit to others, certainly not in any intended sense. So, if the actions of fraud at the highest levels, and the inaction against investigation/prosecution are directed and encouraged, what might be the higher-level hidden agenda?

          Pyramids and the coming economic collapse -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net


          Al

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          • Rick, I agree,...sort of

            The pollsters tell us people are 'tired of gridlock',..etc. Personally, being a small government conservative/libertarian, I LIKE gridlock. Since I believe anything DC does is going to screw somebody, or create a new problem, I LIKE it when they don't do anything.
            However, for those who don't like gridlock, there IS a smple solution. IMHO the next best thing to gridlock happens when ONE party controls both houses, while the other controls the WH. That forces compromise. At least it always has in the past. Thats when Clinton co-opted much of Republican agenda, and created work-fare, where recipients of welfare were required to work.
            Anyway, again IMHO, the WORST scenario is where ONE party, doesn't matter which, controls all 3; WH and both houses of Congress. (Heres where I sort of agree with you; if people really want 'something to get done' in DC, they should have voted democratic; thank GOD they didn't.)So, one should forget ideaology, and policy, and simply vote for Congress based on which party controls the WH. But most people who vote won't apply LOGIC to their choice, they will vote based on emotion. Typical foolish humans, such strange creatures!! Jim

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            • Originally posted by dutchdivco View Post
              simply vote for Congress based on which party controls the WH. But most people who vote won't apply LOGIC to their choice,

              Executive Orders: Washington - Obama

              President Term Barack Obama

              Total Orders 193
              Average / Year 33.57
              Years in Office 5.75
              EO Number Range 13489 - 13681

              Executive Orders

              Presidential Executive Orders


              Al

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              • wanderer, there is no road, the road is made by walking
                Obamisim ; “descriptive term” ; = Something so blindingly full of hope and optimism to heal or fix any situation yet only resulting in a most catastrophic cluster f*ck of failure.

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                • Originally posted by 5150 View Post
                  wanderer, there is no road, the road is made by walking
                  Caminante, son tus huellas
                  el camino, y nada más;
                  caminante, no hay camino,
                  se hace camino al andar.




                  propiedad
                  "mongoloide"
                  endogámica


                  Al

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                  • Transparency and Open Government | The White House

                    Memorandum for the Heads of Executive Departments and Agencies
                    SUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government

                    My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.



                    Caught on Camera: Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law


                    Al

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                    • Here is the explanation.



                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gzYVkgCLMc



                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN0I-TZFn58






                      Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                      Transparency and Open Government | The White House

                      Memorandum for the Heads of Executive Departments and Agencies
                      SUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government

                      My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.



                      Caught on Camera: Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law


                      Al
                      Last edited by BroMikey; 11-12-2014, 06:57 AM.

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                      • the fraud is that the corporation doing business as the United States of America (Inc.) — a governmental services company owned and operated by the Federal Reserve — “redefined” us as foreign situs trusts owned and operated under our own Names. They grossly abused the rights of usufruct to do this and created “States” and Americans on paper that they then “Pledged” as sureties backing the debts of the already bankrupt United States of America, Inc.

                        The further fraud is that FDR then signed over both the debts and the assets of the United States of America, Inc. to the IMF, which glutted itself on the lucrative service contracts via yet another governmental services corporation doing business as the UNITED STATES (INC.)

                        The World Bank, IBRD (International Bank of Reconstruction and Development), and Federal Reserve were ALL creditors in the bankruptcy of the United States of America, Inc., but the primary creditors were the hapless American people and their organic states. Although the 1934 Bankruptcy Act recognizes THEM as the Priority Creditors, the IMF never bothered to inform them or operate in an honest or appropriate fashion with regard to their material interests.

                        Instead, the IMF dba the UNITED STATES, INC. and the Bankruptcy Trustee chosen by the World Bank, IBRD, and Federal Reserve — the Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico — siezed upon all the assets supposedly represented by the foreign situs trusts that the FDR “administration” created and rolled them over into Roman Inferior Trusts — Cestui Qui Vie Trusts, Karen. You are a lawyer. You should be familiar with what those are? Trusts formed when a person “disappears” for a prolonged period of time and their estate is seized and probated and distributed to heirs assigned by the court?

                        These Roman Inferior Trusts were all operated under our NAMES — e.g. JOHN QUINCY PUBLIC, and they were all “removed” to Puerto Rico for “safe keeping” by the Bankruptcy Trustee —thereby bringing American State assets and the private property assets of American State Citizens under Puerto Rican jurisdiction.

                        All these years the IMF, an agency of the UNITED NATIONS, and its spin off governmental services corporation dba UNITED STATES, INC. has been plundering the assets of The United States Trust (1789) and a good portion of that gold that you are so generously and eagerly handing out to everyone belongs to us as well as the Chinese who are already wolfing down the Strawberries and French Toast.


                        The following is a true copy of a Facebook Conversation which took place July 17, 2014 between Former IMF Attorney Karen Hudes and Judge Anna von Reitz. Read it and decide for yourselves what you think: | Kentucky Marijuana Party


                        Al

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                        • Mercy Sakes

                          Mercy Sakes good buddy yer causin an irreversible head rush i should have had years ago. I am not a lawyer but I understand a few things about "The Law"

                          You see "The Law" is for the lawless and there are plenty of good people who if given all of the facts would make a difference where all we have is complacency.

                          The system is out of control by design. These social rapist love to oppress the average man who wants only a tiny plot for his meager existence.

                          I really had not put all of those ideas into one pot for pouring. That is an awesome display of historical renderings that quite frankly are blowing my doors off today.

                          Thanks for the Rush


                          Mikey



                          Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                          the fraud is that the corporation doing business as the United States of America (Inc.) — a governmental services company owned and operated by the Federal Reserve — “redefined” us as foreign situs trusts owned and operated under our own Names. They grossly abused the rights of usufruct to do this and created “States” and Americans on paper that they then “Pledged” as sureties backing the debts of the already bankrupt United States of America, Inc.

                          The further fraud is that FDR then signed over both the debts and the assets of the United States of America, Inc. to the IMF, which glutted itself on the lucrative service contracts via yet another governmental services corporation doing business as the UNITED STATES (INC.)

                          The World Bank, IBRD (International Bank of Reconstruction and Development), and Federal Reserve were ALL creditors in the bankruptcy of the United States of America, Inc., but the primary creditors were the hapless American people and their organic states. Although the 1934 Bankruptcy Act recognizes THEM as the Priority Creditors, the IMF never bothered to inform them or operate in an honest or appropriate fashion with regard to their material interests.

                          Instead, the IMF dba the UNITED STATES, INC. and the Bankruptcy Trustee chosen by the World Bank, IBRD, and Federal Reserve — the Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico — siezed upon all the assets supposedly represented by the foreign situs trusts that the FDR “administration” created and rolled them over into Roman Inferior Trusts — Cestui Qui Vie Trusts, Karen. You are a lawyer. You should be familiar with what those are? Trusts formed when a person “disappears” for a prolonged period of time and their estate is seized and probated and distributed to heirs assigned by the court?

                          These Roman Inferior Trusts were all operated under our NAMES — e.g. JOHN QUINCY PUBLIC, and they were all “removed” to Puerto Rico for “safe keeping” by the Bankruptcy Trustee —thereby bringing American State assets and the private property assets of American State Citizens under Puerto Rican jurisdiction.

                          All these years the IMF, an agency of the UNITED NATIONS, and its spin off governmental services corporation dba UNITED STATES, INC. has been plundering the assets of The United States Trust (1789) and a good portion of that gold that you are so generously and eagerly handing out to everyone belongs to us as well as the Chinese who are already wolfing down the Strawberries and French Toast.


                          The following is a true copy of a Facebook Conversation which took place July 17, 2014 between Former IMF Attorney Karen Hudes and Judge Anna von Reitz. Read it and decide for yourselves what you think: | Kentucky Marijuana Party


                          Al

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                          • Great Post Aljhoa

                            Just signing in to say thanks for an informative post Aljhoa.
                            You have made clear my vague awareness.

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                            • True Education

                              What passes for education in 2014 and the years leading up to 2014 is a sorry excuse for education, as it should be. In years past, students were taught that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and all other true and valid laws were compliant and consistent with the constitution, the constitution being the "supreme LAW of the land. In the world of 2014, the constitution is a flexible, malleable and living document that is construed according to the popular will of the people, whether they actually participate in the democratic process or not. Thus we have the POTUS aligning himself with those who did NOT vote.

                              So, what is TRUE education? True education is what you get when you learn to think for your self. It is what you get when you can reason from cause to effect. It is what you get when you are enlightened to the deception and fraud that is rampant in this degenerate and corrupt society in which we now live in 2014. It was predicted years ago; every principle of the constitution will be repudiated. And, it has come to pass. For details, google the phrase for yourself.

                              Only by reading widely and paying attention to what you are reading will the TRUTH make itself known. Read, analyze, THINK and tease out the TRUTH, if you have the courage to do it. In some sense your LIFE depends on it.
                              There is a reason why science has been successful and technology is widespread. Don't be afraid to do the math and apply the laws of physics.

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                              • One Up

                                That's not fair Wayne, we have "one up" on the average shmoe and yes the prediction I read wasn't from Nostradamus, just like you.

                                The true is in all of history we have the records that show the gradual decline in morality as set forth by the Constitution. I think the biggest thing I see for instance is men kissing on the mouth. Johnny Depp, Michael Douglas and so many more kissing on talk shows to show their twin orientation.

                                All great societies or empires rise and fall. If you look close you will see that the old system is removed when the grossness of the leadership is so unbearable that even the most lawless young persons will destroy it in favor of a partial sanity.

                                The younger who take over will decline and the system cycle starts again. It is the cry of the people that causes the young men to arise to the righteous challenge.

                                Our system today is a world wide system and there is no where to run. There is no one to rise above it because it controls all. This one world system is now here as foretold for generations and no one will escape this forced test.

                                We have been talking about what each of us consider right and wrong by OUR definition. We compare it to how men run the government, we call it a ruling class. THEY are dictators at heart.

                                THEY do not honor the rules that their fathers lived by. They will have no rules. This is why these controllers will not have a woman, because the woman represents the standard for good clean law abiding living.

                                The idea is that THESE CONTROLLERS must show their complete hatred for the old standards so it is not just the doing away with the woman. Any man who can send his woman to another woman because he does not want her will have no problem raping his own daughter or killing his own son.

                                I know this sounds way out there for many of you listening in but the question is, where does this Law Violating Control freak stop?

                                What lie will he give you in order to get his way because he knows you will never except him if he is caught robbing and murdering the innocence of the young and unaware.

                                What kind of leaders do we have today? When will the young men say "it is enough"???

                                The sound of war is all around. Look at Russia. Do you think Russia will sit idle by while the UN struts nude in front of the world like a drag queen? The Father-Land with all of it's beautiful songs of wonder to honor their country exchanged for Gilligan's Island with the skipper and Giligan doing the wild thing? DO you understand that these controllers are the most discussing bunch who have ever lived?

                                All I am saying is "Don't side with this Ditch" Don't fall for this NEW WORLD nonsense like everything is wonderful. Most people do you know?

                                We aint seen nuttin yet. Remember when Bush put up the bird to the camera?

                                Remember when Clinton got off in the WHITE HOUSE? These people are filthy dogs and if you side with them you will be in big trouble when the stuff comes down. It is coming. Enjoy what you have while you can Rejoice. Stay away from the scum suckers way of thinking.

                                Mike


                                Originally posted by wayne.ct View Post
                                What passes for education in 2014 and the years leading up to 2014 is a sorry excuse for education, as it should be. In years past, students were taught that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and all other true and valid laws were compliant and consistent with the constitution, the constitution being the "supreme LAW of the land. In the world of 2014, the constitution is a flexible, malleable and living document that is construed according to the popular will of the people, whether they actually participate in the democratic process or not. Thus we have the POTUS aligning himself with those who did NOT vote.

                                So, what is TRUE education? True education is what you get when you learn to think for your self. It is what you get when you can reason from cause to effect. It is what you get when you are enlightened to the deception and fraud that is rampant in this degenerate and corrupt society in which we now live in 2014. It was predicted years ago; every principle of the constitution will be repudiated. And, it has come to pass. For details, google the phrase for yourself.

                                Only by reading widely and paying attention to what you are reading will the TRUTH make itself known. Read, analyze, THINK and tease out the TRUTH, if you have the courage to do it. In some sense your LIFE depends on it.
                                Last edited by BroMikey; 11-13-2014, 06:44 AM.

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