Apparatus for Utilization of Radiant Energy aka COP infinity circuit

[Aromaz]

Interesting indeed. I have seen this circuit a few places before.
I did this experiment some months ago.

Proven #1: You do get radiant energy. (everything in existance radiates)
Proven #2: Low voltage (I was actually able to charge my mobile phone on it)
Proven #3: In thailand I got ave 50hz; which made me suspisious.

Radiant energy is from all things in the universe, planets, stars, galaxies - and also including you, rocks, mobile towers and electrical grits.

By the way, power from earth is anywhere in the world available; plenty and for free! Do you have any idea how much electricity is 'pumped' into the ground worldwide?

[Guest]

Guys, please

Do you really think that was the reason for tesla to patent such device ?

TESLA HAD SHOWN CLEARLY that radiant energy WAS BEEN produced with his wireless system and that device was a basic converter from radiant energy to normal electric current.

First read patent 462418 and description of Fig.2

Quote from Telsa Patent No 685,957 (page 3, paragraph 45)

"The apparatus being arranged as shown, it will be found that when radiations of the sun or any other source capable of producing the effects before described fall upon the plate P an accumulation of electrical energy in a condenser C will result"

[boguslaw]

Quote from Telsa Patent No 685,957 (page 3, paragraph 45)

"The apparatus being arranged as shown, it will be found that when radiations of the sun or any other source capable of producing the effects before described fall upon the plate P an accumulation of electrical energy in a condenser C will result"

Ha ha ! Sure,but Tesla forgot to add that in case of sun you have to put your plate in stratosphere or if not - at least in elevated place in mountains

[Bob Smith]

Boguslaw,
I've been thinking about your insistence that there's more than what's in the patent for this simple RE collector. What you say makes sense. Any scientist would want to protect their secrets while jumping thru the required hoops to get a patent.

Bearden seems to suggest that open-looped configuration is the way to get an apparatus like this really rockin' ). I believe he infers that oscillation also has something to do with it. For Bearden, there has to be an ongoing imbalance in the system, to allow RE to continuously enter. Here's a link:
The Tom Bearden Website

Here's the link (for those who haven't seen it) to the US Patent Office copy:
Publication Images


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[boguslaw]

Boguslaw,
I've been thinking about your insistence that there's more than what's in the patent for this simple RE collector. What you say makes sense. Any scientist would want to protect their secrets while jumping thru the required hoops to get a patent.

Bearden seems to suggest that open-looped configuration is the way to get an apparatus like this really rockin' ). I believe he infers that oscillation also has something to do with it. For Bearden, there has to be an ongoing imbalance in the system, to allow RE to continuously enter. Here's a link:
The Tom Bearden Website

Here's the link (for those who haven't seen it) to the US Patent Office copy:
Publication Images


B

Fortunately "my insistence that there's more than what's in the patent for this simple RE collector" can be easily proved.
Tesla produced radiant energy EVERY time he used his magnifying transmitter.

Here you have the truth : Tesla GB patent

Look at fig 4 , read patent text and enjoy.One small step for man but a giant leap for mankind...

[Matthew Jones]

You know one thing that no ones mentioned is the conditioning he used for building capacitance plates. The apparatus is mentioned in the patent.

Also I don't know how many of y'all have looked at the effects of conditioning a capacitor with radiant energy, but they change when charged with something like a monopole. They will collect pretty high standing voltage. And do it pretty much like clockwork.

Maybe the plates he used were not only built to his specs but pre exposed to radiant energy. Charged in baths of oil or something, then removed.

Might be worth unrolling a cheap stereo cap or something and seeing the effect it gets.

Just some thoughts
Matt

[Bob Smith]

Boguslaw,
Thanks for the link. I've gone thru the part of the patent referring to Figure 4 - a couple of times. I need to go thru the entire patent a few times in the coming days. Just a quick observation and a question:

- Most metals (with very few exceptions) have a crystalline lattice molecular
structure. Given the piezoelectric properties of various crystals, it makes
sense to me that Tesla would choose metal for the collector portion.

- The patent states that:

The controller shown comprises two very thin and mobile
conducting-plates 45, 46, placed close together, and preferably
enclosed in a receptacle from which the air is exhausted.

I'm wondering if a magnetic reed switch might be a suitable substitute for
the controller. (Guess I'll just have to try it ) )

Matthew Jones:
I'll have to reflect on what you're saying for awhile. I would think that the influx of RE into the unit from the metal collector might serve the conditioning function you refer to...

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[Matthew Jones]

I'll have to reflect on what you're saying for awhile. I would think that the influx of RE into the unit from the metal collector might serve the conditioning function you refer to...

If thats the case I am sure it will, but you may be able to speed the process up.
I am charging a stereo cap now. I'll do that for a couple of days until it stands at 5 + volts and then I'll cut it open and try this thing out.

Matt

[cody]

Bob,

You could easily test if a reed switch would work, just charge up a cap or series some batteries. Keep raising the voltage, and at some voltage level the reed should close( if its going to work that is). Another simple option might just be to use a neon bulb, they usually pass current around 80V or so. Either way, my system is not preforming well enough to even consider a controller yet. Hopefully we can put our heads together and come up with an easy setup that will charge that cap faster so that we might actually use it for something.

Im wondering how much of a difference the plate in the ground makes, everyone has been putting the plate in the air but disregarding the plate in the ground and just using a grounding rod. It dosnt make much sense to me that it would make any difference, but the patent clearly shows it and maybe there is something to it I just havnt been that inspired to get the shovel out and dig in my nice clay and rock yard

[Bob Smith]

Matt,
You may or may not be aware that Bedini talks about the conditioning that takes place in his batteries with his chargers. Over time, they hold more charge and charge much more quickly (which I think you're saying with regard to conditioning caps).

Cody,
I think your ground plate (or rod) is important. I suspect it may help provide what Bearden insists on as a necessary imbalance in an open looped system which provides an entry point for more abundant RE.
Happy digging !!!

[Matthew Jones]

Ya I am aware of the battery conditioning.
But what I am talking about is not the same thing. Capacitor (IE 100v 1000 uf, or something like that) Once charged really well with a monopole or a radiant generator, will continue to recharge on there own. Quite well.

Normally a capacitor has a standing voltage of its own. They will always show potential on a meter. But after charged and discharged several times with a radiant generator, they show a higher standing voltage. The longer the cap is run through the process the higher the potential in the cap at standing will grow.

I can't believe this is new news. I'll throw a movie up and show you.

Anyway the point is you may be able to set the capacitance plate up and charge it several times with radiant from a generator then when you expose it to the sun or whatever your pulling your charge from the potential may grow higher. It may be more receptive to radiant from the enviroment. It lattice structure may be formated in a different fashion due to radiant charge. So it would make sense that whatever your using should at least have some controlled exposure to the pure form of what your collecting.

Just my opinion though, take it for what its worth.

Heres a movie. On you tube.

Matt

[DaemonSlayer]

Solar radiant energy

I noticed earlier in the thread someone mentioned that to collect solar radiation for this device a plate would have to be at a very high location. although this may very well be the case for lower rf one must keep in mind that light is just hf radio waves. Electromagnetism is electromagnetism. Remember that radio telescopes catch the very radiation you guys are experiencing at a distance of Light years! Obviously these radiations can be used to power things or there would be no such thing as the crystal AM radio. Thank you for listening to my ramble.


DS

[Bob Smith]

DS,
Thanks for the input, and welcome aboard.

Guys, at the risk of being redundant, here's the link to Patrick Kelly's summary of this patent - broken down nicely (see pages 1-8):
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter7.pdf

[Matthew Jones]

Oh I misread the patent the first time. He was talking about the treatment of the condenser (Capacitor).
I thought he was talking about the treatment of the insulated metal plate.

My bad. Sorry about that.

The cap thing still may help in the storage. He does say the energy comes in slow, and requires a good condenser.

Matt

[Bob Smith]

Matt,
I watched your video - very cool . I'm impressed and left wondering what can be done with this. I've built a solid state RE charger, and may try it out when I get a chance. I think you've given us all something to think about and for which to consider possibilities. Maybe it deserves its own brainstorming thread. Again, very cool.
Bob