Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

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in the above test no ground is used, only modest equipments, analog voltmeter is used, here a discharge image from 1600UF/450 capacitor , the highest voltage achieved is 300V.

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Hello med.3012. A person's body acts like a sort of ground when you place your hand near the bulbs. The capacitance from your hand when placed close to the bulbs is what influences the circuit, and adds both capacitance and a sort of grounding to your setup. This shows nothing at all about drawing in energy into the system. The only way you can ever tell if you are getting more energy into your setup than is coming from the power source is to either do proper measurements of the input and output power, or make the setup self sustaining.

You can light neon bulbs by just holding them in your hand and placing them near a high voltage source. That doesn't mean you have free energy either. You are just powering off the fields around the high voltage source and your body acts as a type of grounding to complete the circuit. A large block of metal can also act as a type of ground when connected to one wire of light bulbs. The power still comes from the input power source however. I am not just saying this. I have done lots of testing with this sort of thing and have confirmed that the power still comes from the input power source even in one wire configurations.

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i am still developing my device the same about the ideas, in some test the input was 0.5A 10V and from L2 i charged a capacitor of 100UF/450V in 5 second to light a 40W you can also light a 3 X 100W incandescent bulbs using more capacitance but still the problem is technical, the time needed is still long to get the desired power, what i am trying to tell is that Over unity can be very easily shown using a resonating ETBC in a ferrite ring, more advanced scenario is possible also.

according the experiments the best way to use the earth ground in this system is when combined with a high inductance, in a step down transformer as example will be preferable, also in the node point when standing waves is available.

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A solar cell is a free energy device, a battery is a free energy device. Even there are circuits to self- charge a tiny battery. The questions is not if it's possible to get energy from the ambient, because we know that it's possible. The questions is how to get from the ambient background in a faster way.

It's not very complex to build a circuit to light an incandescent light bulb of 50 watts with energy from the environment.

The type of free energy that Don Smith was talking about was of course not this type of energy. I have commented on my own experience from doing many experiments. Anyone is free to do their own experiments and find out for them self how things work.

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It can be tiny, but the interesting thing is that you can get energy from that tiny radiated power.

Why so little power? Smith explained that you can get less than 10 watts because you was using low frequency. Increasing the frequency, in theory, can increase the amount of energy that you can get from that dissipated energy from the electronic devices.

For example, When can you produce more power? at low or at high frequencies?
When you move a magnet inside a coil, you can produce more power when you move the magnet faster. Faster means high frequency. Slow movement = less power = low frequency.

It's the same with Smith's system.

Hello AetherScientist. I won't dwell on it. I have done lots of experimenting with Don Smith's ideas, and, like I said, various things Don Smith has claimed just do not seem to work the way he said when you put it to the actual test.

By all means do your own experimenting if you are inclined to do so and find out for yourself how it really works. I am just commenting here on what I have found in my own experiments.

By the way, when Don Smith showed that you can draw an arc through a capacitor from a high voltage source to earth ground, it looks interesting, but the current in that type of arc is actually very tiny. I have tried to charge a capacitor to earth ground from a high voltage power source (through a high voltage diode) which is isolated from earth ground, and it didn't work for me. Don Smith mentioned in one of his earlier documents that to draw in extra ambient energy from earth ground you need to be located somewhere where the earth has a negative potential of some type. Maybe some of Don Smith's ideas really do work if you happen to be located somewhere where the earth ground has this special negative potential which Don Smith mentioned. Maybe such locations are not that common, so that is why many people who try to replicate Don Smith's setups which use earth ground don't see any free energy. Something to consider anyway.

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Marc Belanger recently is claiming to have a working Don Smith setup, but he (so far) didn't do the most basic things such as show the current draw from his battery using an ammeter, and he used a digital voltmeter to measure the voltage on his battery, but you can easily get bad readings from digital voltmeters and ammeters when used on circuits that have a high voltage generator connected in them. Marc Belanger would need to measure the battery voltage and current using an analog voltmeter and ammeter. Also Marc showed a light bulb lighting up, but it was plugged into a variac (dimmer), so there is no telling how much power it was actually drawing without measuring the voltage across and the current through the light bulb. This is the typical sort of problem that often exists when people claim they have a working free energy device. More often than not they seem to be uninterested in trying to determine the actual facts by doing some proper tests and measurements, but they have no problem claiming they have a free energy device. Sad, but unfortunately that is the reality.

A solar cell is a free energy device, a battery is a free energy device. Even there are circuits to self- charge a tiny battery. The questions is not if it's possible to get energy from the ambient, because we know that it's possible. The questions is how to get from the ambient background in a faster way.

It's not very complex to build a circuit to light an incandescent light bulb of 50 watts with energy from the environment.

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AetherScientist, all electrical and electronic devices have some degree of electric and magnetic fields around them. However, the power you can draw off such fields is usually pretty tiny, unless you are drawing power off the fields around HV power lines or large power transformers, or off tesla coils and plasma tubes, and that sort of thing. Even then, I think you will find that any power you pull off such devices will be less than the input power, and will act as a load to the power source.

It can be tiny, but the interesting thing is that you can get energy from that tiny radiated power.

Why so little power? Smith explained that you can get less than 10 watts because you was using low frequency. Increasing the frequency, in theory, can increase the amount of energy that you can get from that dissipated energy from the electronic devices.

For example, When can you produce more power? at low or at high frequencies?
When you move a magnet inside a coil, you can produce more power when you move the magnet faster. Faster means high frequency. Slow movement = less power = low frequency.

It's the same with Smith's system.

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we are talking about the same thing, but i think there's another wide phenomena, more effective phenomena if you like, the following video was published also in my thread and it show the stability of neon light bulb when my hand is near it, even if my hand is isolated with protective gloves still the same phenomena, so this device has the possibility to attract the power from the surrounding space, we call it zero point energy, negative energy or radiant the importance here is it's there, and we have to catch and use it.

Hello med.3012. A person's body acts like a sort of ground when you place your hand near the bulbs. The capacitance from your hand when placed close to the bulbs is what influences the circuit, and adds both capacitance and a sort of grounding to your setup. This shows nothing at all about drawing in energy into the system. The only way you can ever tell if you are getting more energy into your setup than is coming from the power source is to either do proper measurements of the input and output power, or make the setup self sustaining.

You can light neon bulbs by just holding them in your hand and placing them near a high voltage source. That doesn't mean you have free energy either. You are just powering off the fields around the high voltage source and your body acts as a type of grounding to complete the circuit. A large block of metal can also act as a type of ground when connected to one wire of light bulbs. The power still comes from the input power source however. I am not just saying this. I have done lots of testing with this sort of thing and have confirmed that the power still comes from the input power source even in one wire configurations.

[med.3012]

Using DS experiment it's possible to charge a 1KV capacitor with an AV plug. And you can use a thick dielectric and it works also.

we are talking about the same thing, but i think there's another wide phenomena, more effective phenomena if you like, the following video was published also in my thread and it show the stability of neon light bulb when my hand is near it, even if my hand is isolated with protective gloves still the same phenomena, so this device has the possibility to attract the power from the surrounding space, we call it zero point energy, negative energy or radiant the importance here is it's there, and we have to catch and use it

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Onilt9yhPg&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]

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More videos proving Smith was right. When the device is connected, it emits magnetic waves to the ambient that can be measured using a gauss meter.

AetherScientist, all electrical and electronic devices have some degree of electric and magnetic fields around them. However, the power you can draw off such fields is usually pretty tiny, unless you are drawing power off the fields around HV power lines or large power transformers, or off tesla coils and plasma tubes, and that sort of thing. Even then, I think you will find that any power you pull off such devices will be less than the input power, and will act as a load to the power source.

A few people have claimed to have replicated a Don Smith device, but none of these people so far have ever demonstrated anything that appears to reasonably show they are really getting some free energy out of their setup. I am not trying to discourage anyone from trying, as I have spent a fair bit of time trying out some of Don Smith's ideas myself, but the reality is that various things Don Smith claimed just do not appear to work at all as he has claimed.

Marc Belanger recently is claiming to have a working Don Smith setup, but he (so far) didn't do the most basic things such as show the current draw from his battery using an ammeter, and he used a digital voltmeter to measure the voltage on his battery, but you can easily get bad readings from digital voltmeters and ammeters when used on circuits that have a high voltage generator connected in them. Marc Belanger would need to measure the battery voltage and current using an analog voltmeter and ammeter. Also Marc showed a light bulb lighting up, but it was plugged into a variac (dimmer), so there is no telling how much power it was actually drawing without measuring the voltage across and the current through the light bulb. This is the typical sort of problem that often exists when people claim they have a working free energy device. More often than not they seem to be uninterested in trying to determine the actual facts by doing some proper tests and measurements, but they have no problem claiming they have a free energy device. Sad, but unfortunately that is the reality.

[AetherScientist]

More videos proving Smith was right. When the device is connected, it emits magnetic waves to the ambient that can be measured using a gauss meter.

https://youtu.be/2wgggysXWQ0?t=664

[AetherScientist]

It seems Smith was right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFHN2hanS_U

[AetherScientist]

Rmember that Steve Marks before developing his TPU, he saw something about televisions that radiated energy and caused problem to the people or something like that.

[AetherScientist]

Don Smith explains in his documents that ordinary electronic devices radiateds energy to the ambient in form of magnetic waves. He explains that it's possible to check this by placing a gaussmeter in any ordinary device.

So, I'm going to build a homemade gaussmeter and check if that happens or not.

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So, Smith use dielectric tester in DC pulsing mode.
It must stop charging the capacitor after a couple of sparks, but we see another thing. Some resonance processes occurring in the condenser. First plate is transmitter, than second plate is receiver wich duplicate energy.
You can read about this in Tesla notes (Martin's book, p.341):

The video link doesn't works. Correct the code because the link is ok, but there is something wrong in the code.

1. It must be used a spark? Can be done without spark (direct contact of the wire with the capacitor plate)?

2. I have heard that before, but Smith explains that he gets pulsed DC in the 2nd capacitor plate. How to transform "single wire DC" to "two wires AC"? All the experiments I have seen with single wire involves AC.

3. There is something very interesting in the picture you have posted and it's about that the capacitor produces induction. Of course, there is an effect that I have seen several times and it's called the "Capacitor-Coil" effect.

Instead of using CAPACITOR PLATE -- DIELECTRIC --- CAPACITOR PLATE. The capacitor-coil uses: CAPACITOR PLATE -- AIR -- INDUCTOR.

There is some video in youtube (I don't remember the link) that is about that. The emitter is a brovin-kacher and the receiver is a Capacitor-Coil... let's call it "Coilpacitor"

It's like an open RLC circuit where one plate of the capacitor is replaced by an air core coil.