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@ilandtan
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the most important thing is the amplification factors, any coil or capacitor or whatever combination if there's no increased oscillation when the system is isolated from excitation / power source it's most likely the system can't produce such effect ... at least there's no huge gain as described by Don Smith
the ETBC has this capability, i described this in my PDF ( part 2 )
www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf
why an increased oscillation is so important even we can't use it in practice since the system will produce thousand of amps which can't be controlled ? --- Don Smith 1995 video -----
simply because you need an internal feedback which change the magnetic field to electrostatic field within the system itself ( ETBC conducting foils ) the magnetic field tend to charge the capacitance instantly with no delay , this what produce double frequency behavior ..
if you make a relatively large ETBC the increased oscillation can be seeing with scope, any magnetic field enter the ETBC will be translated immediately to static field through the no conservative rotating electric field , here you can change the reactive electric power into active power !!!!
the ETBC will store this electric field and push another magnetic quantity both at the same time !!!
i think the best is to start experiments rather than argument ..
regards
Last edited by med.3012; 01-27-2019, 04:55 PM.
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You show picture of Don Smith's DSE capacitor.
Have you ever made a capacitor work wired as he described?
I have recently only been able to achieve this by using Rick's book. Not the amplifying effect, but wired where the negative side of the capacitor drives the load when grounded correctly.Last edited by ilandtan; 01-27-2019, 02:46 PM.
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Originally posted by med.3012 View Post[FONT="Courier New"]what about hot spot and protective coating ? if you listen attentively he change his words between capacitor and capacitance as there's a coil has a capacitance which is an Extended Tesla bifilar coil E T B C ..
You maybe corolating his words differently.
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Originally posted by ilandtan View PostUS English is my primary, and I also have the entire 1995 video transcribed in Rick's Book.
I don't know what you are listening for Med. Don is simply saying that the device will be too powerful for a single capacitor, and you mitigate that by using banks of capacitors.
Nothing special about that, nor properties, nor implementation. Simple capacitor engineering, and more towards the fact that the heat that a capacitor takes (because they do get warm in some of my experiments) that multiple capacitors share the heat distribution.
Absolutely nothing that relates to an EBTC, besides there is the word capacitor in the aforementioned.
what about hot spot and protective coating ? if you listen attentively he change his words between capacitor and capacitance as there's a coil has a capacitance which is an Extended Tesla bifilar coil E T B C ..
what about double frequency mentioned in 1994 video ? OK you will tell it's a rectified signal, we already know about that but he talk about a double frequency in another way can be seeing in the ETBC , i explained this in the late of 2014 in my pdf !
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Originally posted by med.3012 View Posti am not a native English speaker but i don't know why you can't hear it ok let's play it again in the exact moment ! please listen again :
https://youtu.be/_8JwIlHLOUI?t=5658
i can't explain every aspect about how the ETBC convert reactive to active but regarding other capability it's the key to this simple effective device , as example Ozone generation, the ETBC generate a high quality / quantity ozone , in the following image it's inside .
I'm sorry, but I don't know what you are listening for Med. Don is simply saying that the device will be too powerful for a single capacitor, and you mitigate that by using banks of capacitors.
Nothing special about that, nor properties, nor implementation. Simple capacitor engineering, and more towards the fact that the heat that a capacitor takes (because they do get warm in some of my experiments) that multiple capacitors share the heat distribution.
Absolutely nothing that relates to an EBTC, besides there is the word capacitor in the aforementioned.Last edited by ilandtan; 01-26-2019, 10:16 PM.
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Originally posted by ilandtan View PostMed, you seem to be implying that the EBTC is a transformer or VAR converter to real energy. I disagree.
No single device is the answer to the Don Smith equation. That I'm sure. There isn't a thought about, grounding or resonance. Can you use an EBTC? Maybe, but I see no where Don Smith says make a coil this way.
i am not a native English speaker but i don't know why you can't hear it ok let's play it again in the exact moment ! please listen again :
https://youtu.be/_8JwIlHLOUI?t=5658
i can't explain every aspect about how the ETBC convert reactive to active but regarding other capability it's the key to this simple effective device , as example Ozone generation, the ETBC generate a high quality / quantity ozone , in the following image it's inside .
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Med, you seem to be implying that the EBTC is a transformer or VAR converter to real energy. I disagree.
No single device is the answer to the Don Smith equation. That I'm sure. There isn't a thought about, grounding or resonance. Can you use an EBTC? Maybe, but I see no where Don Smith says make a coil this way.
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Hi Dwane !
anytime there's a phase shift between voltage and current you have reactive power , but most likely combined with active power which do real work, reactive power is used to rise the voltage in case of huge electricity demand .. we use the reflected voltage component that came from the electric current itself so we can transport active power again effectively.. this phase shift help the system to relax !
in our case imagine you have 10W of active power the AC voltage is 220 V ,the current is 45 ma but you need say 40 A with 100 V ? ! here it's possible to achieve this gain but you have to put your system in full relaxation this mean active power is zero .. it's like you convert voltage to current directly but at the moment when you have a max current the voltage is zero , now we are working with a pure reactive system ! this is a huge virtual gain in electric current, using the simulation software you see the input power can be as small as 5 W but the output can achieve 1000 VAR !!!
now because the ETBC handle its capacitor with inductance you can correct the phase easily since both present together all the time .. there's other details can be added here but first we have to success in creating reactive power !
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Originally posted by med.3012 View PostHi!
without a working prototype i can't give a precise reply ! but after long time investigating his technology i am confident with some points , ...
first the most easy way is to start with producing reactive power .. reactive power is wattles so you can't do anything with it unless in power transmission where it's important to rise the voltage in case of huge electricity demand , Don Smith saw it as a real power with a phase shift ...
second we need to correct the phase using his terminology it's another language system , as i said he worked with something similar to the ETBC extended Tesla bifilar coil, i am still in the phase of producing reactive power in small scale but i have circuit instability problem ..
i think it's a good idea to work directly from the main voltage using a kind of modified SMPS to achieve an increased gain in electric current through the resonance ... if this circuit works we just need to change the coil number4 with an ETBC in the published schematic.. using another CCW CW pick up coil an energy gain can be seeing easily, as you see there's some engineering calculation is needed .
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Sometimes I cannot see the wood for the trees! I have a problem fitting "Reactive Power" into my brain as a Zero power entity. To me the term reactive indicates some event such as a catalist. Something that won't stop, so to speak. But when I research it, it comes up as a by product of AC which needs current, or resistance to perform as energy. This means having inductors or capacitors within the circuit parameters for the reaction to perform.
I have been thinking about the ETBC again! And I am glad you have mentioned this again.
My hands are full at the moment, hopefully this week end I can start to assemble primitive circuit.
Regards
Dwane
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Originally posted by Lightworker1 View PostHello I tried to replicate his apparatus but was unable show any OU. May be, I must fine tune it aggressively.
Hi!
without a working prototype i can't give a precise reply ! but after long time investigating his technology i am confident with some points , ...
first the most easy way is to start with producing reactive power .. reactive power is wattles so you can't do anything with it unless in power transmission where it's important to rise the voltage in case of huge electricity demand , Don Smith saw it as a real power with a phase shift ...
second we need to correct the phase using his terminology it's another language system , as i said he worked with something similar to the ETBC extended Tesla bifilar coil, i am still in the phase of producing reactive power in small scale but i have circuit instability problem ..
i think it's a good idea to work directly from the main voltage using a kind of modified SMPS to achieve an increased gain in electric current through the resonance ... if this circuit works we just need to change the coil number4 with an ETBC in the published schematic.. using another CCW CW pick up coil an energy gain can be seeing easily, as you see there's some engineering calculation is needed .
regards
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Hello I tried to replicate his apparatus but was unable show any OU. May be, I must fine tune it aggressively.
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Originally posted by Dwane View PostHi Med3012,
I have thought of the size of wire that might be necessary! However, for anyone trying, it would be rewarding to get HUGE output of amps. Could be really motivating. I 'll work on both options to understand the process.
Thanks
Regards
Dwane
from the same 1995 video between 20 min to 22 min Don Smith talk about wattles energy where most think it's useless but what we need is the magnetic portion of that resonating system .. reactive power is the most easy way to amplify the source but we need to convert it to useful power through separation where a perpendicular magnetic field in very important for this process, i hope more people will join us here or any place just to introduce something easy simple and effective .. test results is what we need also excitation circuit so we could divide the effort and benefit from that abundant source
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Reactive choice!
Hi Med3012,
I have thought of the size of wire that might be necessary! However, for anyone trying, it would be rewarding to get HUGE output of amps. Could be really motivating. I 'll work on both options to understand the process.
Thanks
Regards
Dwane
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DIY Gauss Meter
Originally posted by dyatronn View PostWhatever you waste your time on - acquire a gaussmeter with a measurement step of 0.1 milligauss. It will help find a place for grounding and installation of the device.
for what its worth, and for other members, I built this neat little unit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWQT8NCzk8
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Dwane
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Originally posted by thaelin View PostOK, SMPS I know but what does the ETBC mean? Went back a lot of pages last night trying to find reference to it but to no avail.
thay
here you are what it mean by ETBC , it's my idea on this subject :
www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf
you can see part 2 where you see from where it came , a derivation from Tesla wireless power transmitter , the correct connection can be seeing in my thread here also
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lained-28.html
just read the last two pages from my thread in this forum , my PDF still need an update
if you start working with it and you have question please ask,.
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