Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[mr.clean]

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"Ну и теперь по теме , то есть по установке:
В установке два генератора , один генератор раскачивает преобразователь на ферритовом трансформаторе для питания генератора наносекундных импульсов и соответственно для подачи напряжения на катушку, далее катушка: состоит из кластикового каркаса и содержит 3 обмотки, одна обмотка - провод приблизительно 0,25- 0,3мм (точно скажу только когда разберу ее с точными замерами, когда-то мотал мини Теслу, потом она обрастала дополнительными обмотками в ходе экспериментов ). Далее поверх нее обмотка проводом 0,65мм (назовем ее резонансная , она подключена только на конденсаторы 1,5мкф х 400в). Далее обмотка коаксиалом 50ом( ранее применялся в компьютерных сетях) получается бифиляр - конец обмотки закорочен - нагружен на генератор наносекундных импульсов.
Ну и сверху намотана обмотка для съема.

Обмотка съема нагружена на диодный мост, после диодного моста стоят конденсаторы (Обязательно не полярные! Полярные не выдерживают и прошивают или за несколько секунд надуваются!)
После выпрямителя я нагрузил лампой 20 Вт ну и соответственно блок питания для самозапитки.
Но еще, у меня блок питания заработал только из четырех один, причем старый АТ. Один не заработал вообще, два быстро вышли из строя.

Диодный мост между конденсаторами и катушкой обязателен! Без него нет стабильности работы! Если кто то будет меня учить схемотехнике - я знаю, что в блоке питания стоит свой диодный мост, но так работает намного лучше."

Here is translation

"And now about circuit:
The device has two generators. One generator excites inverter for powering up second generator of nanosecond pulses and powers up main coil. Next - the coils. The coils is winded on plastic core material and contain 3 windings:
First with wire about 0,25-0,3mm (will say exact measurements when I will unwind coils. It is ex-Tesla coil with additional windings added in later experiments). Next coil is on top of first is resonant coil with wire diameter 0,65mm (will call it resonant coil because it has connected only capacitor with capacity 1,5 micro farrads x 400V). Next coil is 50 Ohm coaxial cable (earler it was used as computers network cable) - it becomes bifilar because one end is shorted and second end is connected into generator of nanosecond pulses. And the last coil on top is secondary for load.

The secondary coil is loaded to diode bridge and after diod bridge there are capacitors (must be unipolar! polar are not lasting long and get broken over few seconds!)
After diode bridge I did connected load of 20W and computer ATX power supply for self running circuit.
But additionally, only one from 4 power supply started to work and it was old AT PS. One did not worked at all and 3 blew up.

The diode bridge between capacitors and secondary coil is a must! Without it there is no stability in working circuit! If somoeone would try to teach me about circuits - I already know about diodes bridge in power suply but wit additional diode bridge it works better."

Good luck!

thanks so much for this, very appreciated

[T-1000]

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About fndings of effect:
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Эффект был замечен случайно , когда настраивал Г.Н.С. в качестве оправки для намотки коаксиала использовал старую мини Теслу.
но на ней была намотана еще одна обмотка проводом 0,65 и я пытался на ней добиться хорошей искры, настраивал ГНС и как то подключил к ней емкость, и получил хороший удар током. Совсем не похожий на обжигающее прикосновение ВВ ВЧ. Тут дальше пошли эксперименты именно в этом направлении. Я не претендую, что моя конструкция является самой оптимальной, но самое важное я получил, и буду работать дальше оптимизируя и изучая данное явление и установку.
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Translation:
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The effect was found accidentally when I was tuning GNP (generator of nanosecond pulses). As base core I used old mini-Tesla. But on it I winded one more coil with wire diameter 0,65mm and I tried to get good sparks discharge on it and when was tunning GNP I randomly atached capacitor. Then got shocked by current unexpectly. This was not anything like touching high frequency secondary coil of TT. This is where there was more experiments specially in this direction. I do not pretend about best construction of circuit but I did got most important thing in it and will be working more with device optimisation and learning about current effect and device
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Еще одна ВАЖНАЯ деталь- БЕЗ ХОРОШЕГО ЗАЗЕМЛЕНИЯ - НЕ РАБОТАЕТ!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"One additional very important detail - without good grounding - it does not work!!!
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[mr.clean]

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About fndings of effect:
"
Эффект был замечен случайно , когда настраивал Г.Н.С. в качестве оправки для намотки коаксиала использовал старую мини Теслу.
но на ней была намотана еще одна обмотка проводом 0,65 и я пытался на ней добиться хорошей искры, настраивал ГНС и как то подключил к ней емкость, и получил хороший удар током. Совсем не похожий на обжигающее прикосновение ВВ ВЧ. Тут дальше пошли эксперименты именно в этом направлении. Я не претендую, что моя конструкция является самой оптимальной, но самое важное я получил, и буду работать дальше оптимизируя и изучая данное явление и установку.
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Translation:
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The effect was found accidentally when I was tuning GNP (generator of nanosecond pulses). As base core I used old mini-Tesla. But on it I winded one more coil with wire diameter 0,65mm and I tried to get good sparks discharge on it and when was tunning GNP I randomly atached capacitor. Then got shocked by current unexpectly. This was not anything like touching high frequency secondary coil of TT. This is where there was more experiments specially in this direction. I do not pretend about best construction of circuit but I did got most important thing in it and will be working more with device optimisation and learning about current effect and device
"

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Еще одна ВАЖНАЯ деталь- БЕЗ ХОРОШЕГО ЗАЗЕМЛЕНИЯ - НЕ РАБОТАЕТ!!!!!!!!!!!!
"
"One additional very important detail - without good grounding - it does not work!!!
"

WOW this is great stuff, excellent translation and photos

[atta]

charging capcitors with Pulsating DC

Hi Mr.clean!

I have read ur posts and seen vids.They are really informative and good.
Can u please guide me about how a capacitor charges under pulsating DC.What is the effect of charging a large capacity cap under some constant current(small or high) .
any docs,pdf,vids tutorial links are welcome.
thanks
Atta

[ewizard]

Hello Mr Clean, clarence, here I suppose the new compact Direct Ignition coils should work better as they are probably ferrite cored and should take whatever frequency you can put on them without the possibility of over freq boiling the oil in the old style auto coils and most probably give out better output. just a thought. LOL mike, onward.

Hello Ewizard also, I have attached a thumbnail circuit to use with an auto coil ( but I would NOT use it with the old oil filled auto coils in a really high frequency application as the laminated coil set up in them will over heat and boil the oil), however I would reccomend using the new compoct direct ignition coils (the type that each one slips on top of each spark plug individualy). the circuit is supposedly used by the sparkies for making long high voltage streamers just for kicks, oh well! do with it or not as you will, just thought you might like it and not too much components in circuit. LOL mike onward!

Thanks clarence - easy enough to build that one.

Mr. Clean, WOW! That's the best DS replica I've seen. Nice work! Based on your schematic showing that you are going from a battery through an inverter to a variac and then the high voltage module (which I know is how Don showed his) I am guessing there may be a sizable loss in efficiency in that part of the circuit - especially standard inverters. At some time it may be worth considering a more direct way to get from the battery output the the high voltage AC. Just a thought but getting it to self run as I believe you mentioned trying in the video is a lot more exciting consideration!

[clarence]

more DS surprises

Hello Mr Clean, EWizard,&all,

clarence here- when I was perusing through DS's old pdf something jumped out at me for the first time!! The attached thumbnail is below!

this photo schematic is an EXACT DIY build instruction for an autotransformer high voltage type ( THE SAME THING AS AN OLD TYPE AUTOMOBILE IGNITION COIL!) oil and all!

It also occurred to me that this same type high voltage transformer could easily be built out in the open with no oil and some ferrite core of whatever type (whether carbon-arc welding gouge rods or ferrite powder and lite elmers glue mix) or simply as an air core set up wound on small clear acrylic tube. the wand DS used in his 2005 weekend video which he pointed and pulsed the cap plate demo was just such type of device commercialy secured and used by Don. dons almost ending statements on the demo said that ANY NUMBER OF ISOLATED SEPARATE CAP PLATES COULD BE PLACED IN THE PROXIMITY AND WOULD RECEIVE THE SAME POWER WITHOUT DETRACTING FROM THE ORIGINAL!!!! that statement verifies the post by HS in one of his earlier posts showing the separate series cap schematic and also was verified by Eric dollard in one of his tutorials! just thoughts and info you might enjoy and get use out of.

mike, onward!

[wayne.ct]

I and U

The answer is simple:
I in resonant transformer and U in second coil on very short pulses.

Hi T-1000, Thank you for helping me. I would like your answer (opinion) to this question. Is a spark/spark gap required? Tesla used a spark gap to convert DC to pulse/AC. Is it enough to use a 555 timer to create nanosecond pulse? Is it desirable to repeat the pulse at resonant frequency? In my reading and experience, the 555 will max out at about 200 KHz.

Can you explain "U in second coil" ? Resonant frequency of L2 is 4x resonant frequency of L1? Correct?

Thank you for your help.

[T-1000]

Hi T-1000, Thank you for helping me. I would like your answer (opinion) to this question. Is a spark/spark gap required? Tesla used a spark gap to convert DC to pulse/AC. Is it enough to use a 555 timer to create nanosecond pulse? Is it desirable to repeat the pulse at resonant frequency? In my reading and experience, the 555 will max out at about 200 KHz.

Can you explain "U in second coil" ? Resonant frequency of L2 is 4x resonant frequency of L1? Correct?

Thank you for your help.

The main goal is to get sharp as posible nanosecond pulse and it should resonate free ringing in circuit. With spark gap it is easest way because it got many different frequencies at once and they surely hit resonant frequency. But if you get nanosecond pulse generator it will be precise hit without noise on needed time.

The voltage in second signal has same function as magnet on 90 degrees in this demo:
Simple demonstration of magnetic resonance as used in NMR and MRI - YouTube
The first magnet there is your current where compass aligns by default.

Cheers!

[Ganzha]

Replicant of DALLY is prove that this is Fake

Replica of DALLY gen is prove that this is fake
Dally replicant - YouTube

But in opposite schematics with Induction Cooker prove to be real!
IN 230 v 4-3 a 900 W OUT 2-3 KW FREE ENERGY - YouTube

I am sure that device Dally is fake because i did replication already ant it doesnt work
Dalle never show us his board been open up to clear space between board and some strange wires that always are around his board.
Here is better way to show self supplayind and self running Free Energy Device!
This is real no doubt!
Radiant energy reciever - YouTube

[mr.clean]

Replica of DALLY gen is prove that this is fake
Dally replicant - YouTube

But in opposite schematics with Induction Cooker prove to be real!
IN 230 v 4-3 a 900 W OUT 2-3 KW FREE ENERGY - YouTube

Idk what the guy is saying, is he stating it doesnt work?

-and has he truly exhausted the possibilities?

It just wouldnt make sense to fake it, that is such a waste of time lol
To me the public 100kw demo in 2009 was proof it is viable.
Anyway, good to be vigilant, but it would be interesting to see some more replications, which i will participate in as well

[mr.clean]

Hi Mr.clean!

I have read ur posts and seen vids.They are really informative and good.
Can u please guide me about how a capacitor charges under pulsating DC.What is the effect of charging a large capacity cap under some constant current(small or high) .
any docs,pdf,vids tutorial links are welcome.
thanks
Atta

Thanks buddy, Well certainly the most "constant" current is what you want, so higher the freq, the closer to DC you are, and u can make use of resonance as well.

U asking how the cap charges? Or particularly with HF pulsing?
Basically same as DC would, but interupted by the off time, causing a relaxation and a "cycling" is established.

I have connected the big 2kv caps up to hv/hf on pos side, and ground only to neg, and charged up very fast, almost same as the Smith coils, but there was a sweet-spot with freq

[mr.clean]

Thanks clarence - easy enough to build that one.

Mr. Clean, WOW! That's the best DS replica I've seen. Nice work! Based on your schematic showing that you are going from a battery through an inverter to a variac and then the high voltage module (which I know is how Don showed his) I am guessing there may be a sizable loss in efficiency in that part of the circuit - especially standard inverters. At some time it may be worth considering a more direct way to get from the battery output the the high voltage AC. Just a thought but getting it to self run as I believe you mentioned trying in the video is a lot more exciting consideration!

Lol thanks, but the best ive seen was Drak's part 5, although he says it wasnt, it looked to me he had a 50watt halogen running from under 20watts in, if i recall correctly.

He also said he was giving it another shot, and wanted to copy dons wire for wire, and may disappear if it worked..... Havent seen him around for a while.... Lol

Oh yeah for sure a DC driver would eliminate the need for variac and inverter, those are the major losses as u said, the PVM12 from amazing1.com is a great little unit, with variable freq, and DC is the source

[Ganzha]

translation

Dally replicant - YouTube

The man said that it is stupid to use Neon tube as a stabilisator he use different
He said that VCO is working but there are no reaction what is frequency is used
He said he has 220 volt bulb 40 Watt but he has 40 Volt on it and it is work very weak (as you could see) He said that Generator (oscillator) of nano impulses work that is indicates usind TV sets as a measure devices - he tuned TV set from Antenbna and recieve signalk from his Oscillator it looks like verical lines at TV screen/////
That is practically all!

I shoul ad that is stupid to use VCO in this scgematic because that is not controlled no feedback lines, that is waisting of time and materials

[atta]

Capacitors charging

Thanks buddy, Well certainly the most "constant" current is what you want, so higher the freq, the closer to DC you are, and u can make use of resonance as well.

U asking how the cap charges? Or particularly with HF pulsing?
Basically same as DC would, but interupted by the off time, causing a relaxation and a "cycling" is established.

I have connected the big 2kv caps up to hv/hf on pos side, and ground only to neg, and charged up very fast, almost same as the Smith coils, but there was a sweet-spot with freq

Thank u very much!Mr Clean
I am obliged and honoured!
Thanks again and keep up good work!
Atta

[atta]

How to variate Degree of grounding

Hi Mr Clean!

Its me again!

I just want to ask how could we variate degree of grouding as donsmith mentions it?

Thanks

Atta