Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

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Hello Level,
in this particular build the stated value don used for his storage caps was 8uF. so that means that the series cap value for the four caps in series would be what? I believe I know but what would you say. personally I believe he chose a value for a series total that would coincide with his next component which would be a step down transformer and its primary coil with that capacitance paralleled across it would produce a 50hz or 60hz secondary output to be inverted to AC. just my thoughts, time will tell.

Hi Clarence. As you mentioned later, I think Don had those output caps in parallel. If you did put four 8uF caps in series you would end up with 2uF total, but four times the voltage rating of one. I don't know if Don intended a step down transformer on this circuit, but on some of his circuits he put some sort of inverter circuit on the output. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to try what you are suggesting however and parallel the primary of a step down transformer with a capacitor.

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Hello Level,

Clarence,

I have attached Don's schematic again. It shows the capacitors paralleled in the circuit which should give a total of 32uF capacitance to the circuit. the capacitor bank as a unit stores the 7995v pulsed DC. each capacitor charges independently at its 8uF rate. I would not think it would be good to operate the device unloaded for any length of time, it is just a middle man for the whole operation, once a load is applied its charge disappears and if the resonant functioning of the supply circuit is not properly tuned to meet the load requirement and keep the bank charged then FIZZLE! NADA! once the circuit is in the proper operation the cap bank for all practical purposes is just a laid back idling component waiting to fill a minute interruption now and then. that's how I view a cap bank. good for starts but not FIZZLES!

I was VERY mindful of your advice on the discharge of the bank on shutdown! I would appreciate some specifics on the power type resistor discharge method you mentioned. my outlook is trying NOT dying! again let me say I do thoroughly appreciate your comments and considerations!


mike onward!

Hi Clarence. Although I have my doubts that this circuit will be able to get those output capacitors to charge to a really high voltage like 7995V, unless maybe if you leave it charging for quite a while, you would still have to be very careful when discharging those output capacitors for sure. I am not sure what the best way to discharge those HV output capacitors would be as using an ordinary switch, to switch in a large value resistor to discharge them might well cause serious arcing on the switch, and just touching the switch might well be a shock hazard as well, unless you can find some sort of switch that is rated for 8000VDC.

If you can manage to charge your output capacitors to around 8000V, then the capacitors would need to be discharged through a higher value power resistor (bleeder resistor). Some of the can type capacitors come with a built in bleeder resistor, but I am not sure what type of resistor is in those capacitors. It is partially for this reason that I have not bothered to try to put large value capacitors on the output in my tests of this device. It just seems too impractical and too much of a shock hazard as well. I would agree with mr. clean that you may want to hold off purchasing the output capacitors and see what sort of output you can get without them. It is possible that those caps are required to get this device to produce the extra power, but if so I don't see how it would work. If that is the case then there are likely other missing pieces to this circuit as well. Anyway it might be better to just build the NST driver and coils part and then see how that works when you get it tuned up, and then you can decide from there if you want to try to expand on that.

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yeah the further you go the more questions arrise, but one thing im wondering now is if we added an "Extra Coil" to the ends of Don's (Tesla's pat336,961) secondaries?

effectively making it a Bipolar (or dual monopolar?) Magnifying Transformer ?
Anyway i'm going that direction with Don's stuff... something may just be missing, and swith a few connections...?

at this precise moment tho, im replicating Eric Dollard's LMD experiment with the caps and 8 inductor chokes, straight in and out, himself already measured 125% /C (the speed of light), and heat in the coils/load Increased as distance increased, compared to the 81% /C from the TEM setup using same power and components re-arranged.

i dont think i'll ever stop exploring Don's work, but between times of scratching my head wondering what Don may have done, i cant ignore other devices already proven and properly explained

Hi mr. clean. I think I have seen that Eric Dollard video regarding the two different types of analog modeling. Really interesting. Also, the magnifying transmitter approach may bring some interesting results, so let us know how you make out with that. I will also be interested to hear how you make out with those analog modeling circuits as well.

[SERG V.]

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Nick,

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Roman Akula Videos:

GEDC0116PC akula0083 free energy mega device - YouTube

ризультат! приблизительная схема. пояснительная конфа. - YouTube

на скрую руку - YouTube

ризультат! - YouTube

СЕ. akula0083 - YouTube

СЕ. akula0083 - YouTube

Воздух2 - YouTube

GEDC0133_PC - YouTube

GEDC0047 схема управления выходным тт‚ - YouTube

GEDC0046_PC - YouTube

Channel is
Дэн - YouTube


Proofs

Side View Akula Device


Front View of Akula Device


Bakcyard Grounding - Heavy Copper pipes sticked in wet ground


Load Light bulbs 5x230Watts on 220v-50Hz


Close View on Akula Device


Panoramic view on Akula Device and backyard



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Level,

Could you please suggest what you think may have been left out based on your own experiences and knowledge of this stuff.

I have some ideas myself.Actually, I had to scan though all his devices,written materials,schematics,diagrams,pictures and videos to search for clues.I had mentioned many threads ago that, what might not have been shown on one device might be seen or show up on another. Not only that,other devices from other sources may have components left out by Don.Don was an avid researcher and if you have seen his Library courtesy of Soundiceuk, and some patents that existed long before Don started producing these machines, you can actually see where he may have derived some of his ideas from (apart from Tesla and the other heavy weights).Its fascinating stuff! I found the PJK to be one such source of info.

Regards,
Ged

Hi Ged. I don't really want to speculate regarding what might have been missing since I would really just be guessing. It is possible that if you take bits and pieces of his different devices and combine some parts together that you may get a working device, but who knows? At least with the Kapanadze videos you can see supposedly complete devices driving a load in his videos, but even then those videos could be faked. With Don Smith we haven't really seen his demo boards working (except for one demo video where he connected up his hidden suitcase device to some lights for a little while) so we don't even know if pieces are missing in the various Don Smith demo boards, or if any particular demo board or circuit ever actually really did work.

[mr.clean]

Hello Mr. Clean,

Clarence,

I agree with you on the caps use for the present time, until I have first proven productive power to start with. if you don't have any thing to store its just another costly empty closet.

as I progress I was planning on load experiments directly off the L2 output terminal strip similar to your vids. I would like to ask your advice on the best items to use as loads to give an indication of wattage available. burnt bulbs just store carbon. what types of bulbs, etc. would you suggest to use.

I am also curious as to what you mean when you refer to an "extra" coil. is that similar to Don's proof of concept coils he showed on his AC output white demo build?

also I am quite aware that this device build is a dangerous m#@#@#! Don rated most of his builds @ 20amp output but that was because a load step down transformer would backload the secondary coil at 20amp also and most of his secondary coils were around 12AWG which wouldn't handle over that safely. however this build coils are 10AWG and could handle 30amp @ 8000v which equates to 240KW. DEADLY!!! remember Tesla said this type unit would handle as much amperage as voltage. Don gave a quick little demo in 1966 where he illustrated a bifilar type wind around his arm and stated the same thing. slow and safely is the forethought!

looking forward to your thoughts Kurt, thanks in advance.

mike onward!

hi Clarence and all, the best loads i have found are halogen bulbs, 12v 20watt and 12v 50watt are what u have prob seen in my vids.

i know you are going by the schematic you attached, and i have tried it, but after pondering over Don's schematic and other Tesla sites, i switched to a more well known spark configuration..
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and it went from zero to hero lol
41 Don Smith Device: Completely Air Cored, Primary Outside, Increased Light - YouTube

but more recently i simplified it further, and just cant tell the difference is the problem LOL
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and vid to go along with it..
42A Don Smith Device: Simplifying - YouTube

OH cool, if you arent familiar with the EXTRA COIL i feel excited to be the one to tell you...
In the Tesla's PERSONAL (cause apparently he didnt intend anyone else to read it) Colorado Springs Notes 1899-1900 he discovered that not only should you have a primary and secondary... but there should be another... the "Extra coil" TESLA called it.

This Extra coil which was NOT inductively coupled to the primary, but is litterally connected to the end of the secondary, and is 3/4 wavelength tuned to the secondary (i believe i read)

...the "extra coil" is why it is referred to as the TMT
(Tesla Magnifying Transmitter)

it is NOT the Tesla Coil you are use to, there is a 3rd coil which is excited from the secondary action, not the primary, and would give rise to "..Excessive EMF's"

Tesla in his own words...."it has been observed that by use of extra coils, an excellent way of obtaining excessive ElectroMotive Forces..."

" it is notable that by use of the extra coil, practically ANY EMF could be obtained, the limits so far remote that one would not hesitate to generate streamers 1000 feet long"

......"although a very high pressure can be reached using primary and secondary coil, it is nowhere near the performance of employing Extra coils"

(going from memory.. but the last one is pretty hard to get wrong LOL)

WE NEED to use an extra coil if we want to go beyond the regular Resonant rise.

So one thing to ask yourself if still questioning, is WHY didnt Tesla record "EXCESSIVE EMF" when doing his regular primary/secondary works?

...take it from Tesla...it's the EXTRA COIL

[mr.clean]

[QUOTE=SERG V.;231159]DON"T FEED THE TROOLS !!

Hi OU Folks!!

THE LATEST NEWS - THE BREAKING NEWS IS:

TIGER2007 HAS VISITED ROMAN AKULA AND CONFIRMED HE HAVE REAL WORKING OU DEVICE OF 1KWatt.

AND I KNOW VITALY (TIGAR2007) TOLD A TRUTH !!


Roman Akula Videos:

GEDC0116PC akula0083 free energy mega device - YouTube

ризультат! приблизительная схема. пояснительная конфа. - YouTube

на скрую руку - YouTube

ризультат! - YouTube

СЕ. akula0083 - YouTube

СЕ. akula0083 - YouTube

Воздух2 - YouTube

GEDC0133_PC - YouTube

GEDC0047 схема управления выходным тт‚ - YouTube

GEDC0046_PC - YouTube

Channel is
Дэн - YouTube


Proofs

Side View Akula Device


Front View of Akula Device


Bakcyard Grounding - Heavy Copper pipes sticked in wet ground


Load Light bulbs 5x230Watts on 220v-50Hz


Close View on Akula Device


Panoramic view on Akula Device and backyard





This is facinating, havent seen this one yet, gonna look but are there any schematics ?

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This is facinating, havent seen this one yet, gonna look but are there any schematics ?

Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

[aaron5120]

DON"T FEED THE TROOLS !!

Hi Serg V, I read you well, comrade. But it seems that Mr. Akula did not post any schematics of his multiple versions of that setup in the YT clips. The drawings we have seen were merely speculations of his circuits.
Enlighten us please if you have a reliable source of a valid schematic, so that we can start studying the setup of Mr. Akula.
We do not discard anything here, but we must have more info to establish our conclusions.

Thanks for your opinion expressed.

aaron5120

[mr.clean]

here is what i have so far for the LMD accelerator
...one coil left to wind, then LCR all to identical L

[mr.clean]

here is the schematic, originated from Eric Dollard (LMD Tesla coil analog) and illustrated here by JLN labs

[mr.clean]

here is what ive got now,

Eight 2.133mH coils, all checked and adjusted identically
Eight 1nF 40kv ceramics
should resonate at 108.96kHz (based on the way Eric and JLN were calculating)

i would use larger capacitance but i just had a bunch of these 1nF so im gonna use those.

this is as far as im gonna go tonite, or else i wont sleep at all

[mr.clean]

and in regards to the newly shown Kapanadze replication, there are some schematics...

Схема akula0083 №2 - YouTube

[T-1000]

and in regards to the newly shown Kapanadze replication, there are some schematics...

Схема akula0083 №2 - YouTube

this circuit is incorrect and this is what akula said when I had conversation with him...

[mr.clean]

this circuit is incorrect and this is what akula said when I had conversation with him...

Oh thanks for that i hang onto all of them as a bad habit lol