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  • If he knew he would be building it, instead of just talking about it. Dunfasto, never is going to show anything, as he is afraid of rejection.

    Serg V: Are you ever going to build anything yourself? Why is it up to me. Are you sitting on your hands?


    I don't understand you guys, Come on... You keep posting all these "complete" diagrams, only for others to build. Where are your working and proven examples, of what you would like to see us build?
    YOU must provide the motivation, by showing how YOU built a working device, first. Then others will replicate it. But, Not the other way around.
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    the circuit does not show the inverter battery feed thats is 12 volt 7 ah so to self run this inverter circuit we need 12 volts from the output to feed the 12 volt input of inverter. we need step down from 220 v to 12 volt rectified"
    End quote by Dunfasto.

    Well then, prove the point. Or, are suggestions and circuits for others to build, and many different theories on paper, all you have to show?...

    SR 193 device used no inverter, or 12v battery, which was being feed back to. It's Only input source was the kick-start source, which was disconnect at start up. So, no run battery, or inverter was ever needed. Anything other than that is NOT the SR device, but something else.
    Last edited by Nick_Z; 10-08-2013, 04:01 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Nick_Z View Post
      If SR 193 device used no inverter, or 12v battery, which was being feed back to. It's Only input source was the kick-start source, which was disconnect at start up. So, no run battery, or inverter was ever needed. Anything other than that is NOT the SR device, but something else.
      if you want to light one bulb like sr193 or chubinidze then one can charge cap and use just 100 or 200 watts. but if one desires higher wattage output then one has to use inverter transformer like kapanadze, akula and fabrice andre.

      one can use cascading to have outputs in kilowatts and megawatts

      kapanadze use cascading but basis is basic chubinidze circuit and sr 193 is modified kapanadze circuit .

      those who wish to understand kapanadze must understand chubinidze circuit which is basic stepper circuit for overunity




      dunfasto
      Last edited by dunfasto; 10-08-2013, 05:06 PM.

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      • All right dunfasto, I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind. Question one is: In the SR193 circuit, how many turns were in the L2 HV coil? You mentioned that it was litz wire. What gauge of litz wire did he use?

        Another question, you mentioned that if you cascade the output, you can get higher power. How is this accomplished?

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        • Originally posted by dunfasto View Post
          Originally posted by dllabarre View Post
          the circuit does not show the inverter battery feed thats is 12 volt 7 ah so to self run this inverter circuit we need 12 volts from the output to feed the 12 volt input of inverter. we need step down from 220 v to 12 volt rectified"
          Or just do in same way Bedini was doing - the resonant charging of battery by moving ions inside of it by resonant frequency ...
          Last edited by T-1000; 10-08-2013, 06:43 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Workshopelf View Post
            All right dunfasto, I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind. Question one is: In the SR193 circuit, how many turns were in the L2 HV coil? You mentioned that it was litz wire. What gauge of litz wire did he use?

            Another question, you mentioned that if you cascade the output, you can get higher power. How is this accomplished?

            litz wire having 6 or more strands 160 to 200 turns can be dual layered.

            output of one stage fed to input of another setup.

            dunfasto

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            • Originally posted by dunfasto View Post
              if you want to light one bulb like sr193 or chubinidze then one can charge cap and use just 100 or 200 watts. but if one desires higher wattage output then one has to use inverter transformer like kapanadze, akula and fabrice andre.

              one can use cascading to have outputs in kilowatts and megawatts

              kapanadze use cascading but basis is basic chubinidze circuit and sr 193 is modified kapanadze circuit .

              those who wish to understand kapanadze must understand chubinidze circuit which is basic stepper circuit for overunity




              dunfasto

              @ Dunfausto: Akula's device was shown lighting several hundred watts of bulbs, and his third shown device had an output of over a kW, while NO battery was connected to the system, only a ground connection.
              So, NO battery was needed, only to start the system, then was disconnected.

              As neither the SR or the Chubinidze devices have ever been replicated, especially by you Dunfausto, how can you be so sure of anything you are mentioning? Cascading, for kW of power, are you sure?
              Aren't you just guessing and leading people on, talking as if you KNOW?
              When nothing to prove your point is EVER shown??? You have not even lit a tiny bulb from a free energy device, yet. But, you know how its done.
              I see.... well, talk is cheap. Please prove the points that you are repeatedly making. Many of us have already previously seen all the videos and diagrams that you are pointing to.
              Your assumptions above are not entirely correct, either.
              Last edited by Nick_Z; 10-08-2013, 11:12 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Nick_Z View Post
                @ Dunfausto: Akula's device was shown lighting several hundred watts of bulbs, and his third shown device had an output of over a kW, while NO battery was connected to the system, only a ground connection.
                So, NO battery was needed, only to start the system, then was disconnected.

                As neither the SR or the Chuninidze devices have ever been replicated, especially by you Dunfausto, how can you be so sure of anything you are mentioning? Cascading, for kW of power, are you sure?
                Aren't you just guessing and leading people on, talking as if you KNOW?
                When nothing to prove your point is EVER shown??? You have not even lit a tiny bulb from a free energy device, yet. But, you know how its done.
                I see.... well, talk is cheap. Please prove the points that you are repeatedly making. Many of us have already previously seen all the videos and diagrams that you are pointing to.
                Your assumptions above are not entirely correct, either.
                Getting monotonous, isn't it Nick !?

                Cheers .................. Graham.

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                • GSM and All:
                  Monotonous, boring, and pages, and more pages of talk and BS...
                  Blind leading the blind...

                  Is there anyone currently building anything that works, and that may shed some real light on this topic??? I'd love to see it... Otherwise, it's back to hearing more about unproven theories, and diagrams of devices that don't do anything.
                  As we have been getting nowhere, fast.

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                  • Originally posted by Nick_Z View Post
                    Serg V: Are you ever going to build anything yourself? Why is it up to me. Are you sitting on your hands?
                    No Nick_Z, on the very comfortable wooden chair !!

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                      ps to Nikolai Zec !! NO NEED TO BE ANGRY ON ME IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE. IT'S A VERY BAD MOVE FOR YOUR HEART GOT IT ?? BE A GOOD AND POLITE GUY OK ??

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                      • Originally posted by SERG V. View Post

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                        ps to Nikolai Zec !! NO NEED TO BE ANGRY ON ME IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE. IT'S A VERY BAD MOVE FOR YOUR HEART GOT IT ?? BE A GOOD AND POLITE GUY OK ??
                        Hi Serg.

                        "in working 'on' state the relay must interrupt DC voltage, not make contact"
                        = no power mosfet current = no "silent bluish sparks" ! ....... ?????

                        Cheers .................. Graham.
                        Last edited by GSM; 10-09-2013, 08:01 AM.

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                        • Hi GSM

                          In this config relay turns on and of 50 times per second 50Hz.

                          I tried it and measure with scope.

                          JoeFR

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                          • Originally posted by joefr View Post
                            Hi GSM

                            In this config relay turns on and of 50 times per second 50Hz.

                            JoeFR
                            A-ha ! So the relay becomes a fast pulser of HF primary drive !
                            Hence the 4x 100nF.

                            Thank you Joe.

                            Cheers ........... Graham.

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                            • Привет всем !!
                              HI all

                              Yes GSM correct....rele must work like interruper not come into contact with DC power. PCM Generator run continuous with periodic interruption of MOSFET power. The main goal rom RED info is number of windings and wire diameter are not critical for correct operation of RED device. Find and study how old Lamp Triodes work. The principle is very similar to operation of triode. His device is like one big triode which running on the air with help of ground. Sucking Free Electons from Ground {and not only the ground}. If you plan replication share all information with people not only on this forum but wider.

                              .........
                              joefr would you like to show your oscillograms of rele working or any oscillograms from this device ??. One picture told like a thousand words so give people a chance to understand how it work and why on that way.

                              Arcing is inadmissible here. Only Unidirectional silent bluish sparks or in a simple words NON-CURRENT EXCITATION of Inductor (primary). All metalic objects in radious of 40cm hit with strong currents shocks for example cores of transformers or any massive metalic objects.

                              L1 copper ribon coil become hot while working that's why we need here fluoroplastic or cerramic. Main problems may come from HV breaking from Inductor to other coils. Use quality wire isolation and also you can try teflon isolator between layers or something similar to teflon. Will be very fne to other people to flood this topic with the oscillograms of RED device while replicating.

                              The spark-gaps make tunable while trimming and after that you can made fixing spark gap from glass fuse box. IRF540 on big radiator cooled with computer 12v fan. If you want you can attach high current driver to output of PCM TL494 for very fast switching transistor. Alo you can put several MOSFETS in parallel. If use mosfet driver use non inverting type driver. You can try also any high conducting low voltage MOSFETS for example IRFP260. BJT can also be used here. And for any case for smoothing HV DC you can conect here {after diode D1} some HV smothing capacitor rated for proper HV DC volatge. We need here very stable almost static HV DC with lower ripple as possible. For example like HV DC Accumulator.

                              For experimenting and starting is very good to use high amperage car accumulator about 45-65Ah especially for invertor which have very high rush current at start moment. Move any sence Digital equipment far away from this device while experimenting. All kind of Analog devices with moving coils are welcome here. And alos neon lamps for detecting of HV static field. That's all for now.


                              Regards
                              Сергей В.

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                              • Cepren B:
                                I'm certainly NOT angry with you, or anyone else. I appreciate your posts.
                                BUT: If we don't show both videos and working devices, to go along with the diagrams, probably nobody is going to take the risk of replicating a fairly complicated device that is not proven, and that has not been replicated by others here as well, not just by the original builder.
                                At least not anymore.
                                As hundreds, or thousands of diagrams, and schematics, videos, and pictures, having been uploaded. And, still not a single WORKING FE device to been shown and replicated, or built here on this thread, or most other threads, either.
                                It is frustration, not anger, that I feel.

                                Cepren B: Don't get me wrong, we are all on the same side... wanting the same thing. Success and liberation.

                                NickZ

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