Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[tswift]

No one is doing anything?

Still working, far from giving up. I expect to produce results eventually, but it doesn't surprise me that it's being kind of a long road to getting there. Waiting on numerous items: acrylic casting resin, acrylic cement, nylon threaded rod and hardware. Building the multipliers is turning into its own mini-project, but I want them to look nice and work well. When I'm done I will be able to turn the voltage up to as much as the insulation can take. I started fabricating the end caps for the multiplier tubes, I cut them out of 1/4" acrylic sheet with a drill press using a biscuit cutter style drill bit, removing the center drill bit. I have a cutter that's just very slightly over size to match the OD of the tube to hold the multiplier. This worked pretty well, but you have to drill a little at a time so as not to get the bit too hot. If it gets too hot the acrylic will get soft and gooey and not cut cleanly. The cut edge was better than I expected but it still needed sanding and polishing, something I have done a lot of but not with acrylic. I spent a fair amount of time hand sanding against a foam pad and this gave pretty good results although I need a finer grade of paper to make it look like glass. Buffing against cloth jeans or paper also seemed to work pretty well. All told I probably spent two hours making one little disc-shaped button of acrylic, then marked and drilled it for the through holes where the lead wires will go through. The holes have to be a very snug friction fit for the HV wire or else it will leak resin when I go to pour it. I got the holes slightly over size and slightly out of position, so this cap isn't good enough for actual use and I will have to make two more, but I think I can do a better job next time. When completed, each multiplier assembly will resemble one of those really tall 4-shot shot glasses, with two lead wires coming out the bottom. I will prepare the vacuum chamber, stand the tube upright in it, fill it full of acrylic resin, and then vacuum it to remove all air bubbles. It will take about a day to fully cure. Like I said, pretty much a mini-project in its own right, but I don't think we are going to see good results at the voltages possible with just a DC flyback transformer and I want to have some nice durable parts that I can use for future experimentation too.

Wish I still had a benchtop lathe in my little shop, for a while I had a friend staying with me and he had one. It was handy. But he has a place of his own now and a much bigger and better shop that I can use if I need to.

[Wistiti]

Add just one wire and you're good to go.

Ok thank you for the hint, i'll try to figure out where...

One question if you dare . We have to add one wire... do we also need to remove one PPV so we end with just one PPV in the mirror circuit..?

[dragon]

I spent most of yesterday tearing down my lathe to find a gear with some broken teeth. It was getting a bit "growly"... luckily it wasn't major, I ordered the new gear and hopefully I'll have my machine back together this weekend... my next project requires this to be fully functional...

No one is doing anything? Anyway, to explain my question on the PPV's direction I can see a couple possible outcomes... refer to the 2 drawings below...

Number 1 is as it's shown in the drawing, the cap would reach a moderate charge and breach the gap but because of its directional nature the return cycle would be suppressed.

Number 2 is a reversed version where it would require a much higher charge on the cap to breach the gap ( increasing the current pulse through the coil ) and allow a smooth return that may help replenish the charge and require less external energy to "top it off" for the next cycle.

I tend to twist everything up and question all aspects of a project...maybe I'm a little anal with stupid questions... nevertheless, I plan to try it in both directions to see if one way is more beneficial than the other.

[radioionics]

hi guys.

I cant tell if it is because of my ant/ground setup (if so it will take few month before the spring arrived here and i'll be able to setup new one) or it is because of some primary hv problems (as you know i have isolated it and change my flyback for a better one) or simply because i miss some skills, but after few try(i even try to change the ground for antenna connection), money and time, i am far from the result supposed to be in the pdf v.7.0.0...

i don't know about the result of other and hope they have better than mine...
But until now i have hard time with this circuit...

Hope all the "secrets" are reveled cause it's frustrated when you give your best and know after a while there is something missing...

For now i will take a break and standby with the "mirror circuit" until i can see better result than mine or until the spring coming...

When the parts i have order came in, i will give a try to the last simplified circuit soundiceuk have share to see if i can achieve better results...

Am still open for comments and help!

Bruce and soundiceuk, sorry for my
poor results and negative post....

Add just one wire and you're good to go.

[radioionics]

Ok, yea, I have several variations. The 5.4.8 I have is one variation of the mirror circuit then I guess the latest one is the v7 ? Both are similar with small changes....

To remove all the confusion, maybe re-post the one that is based on the tested and working model. This way we all have the same baseline circuit to work with.

Add just one wire to v7 and you're good to go.

[Wistiti]

To remove all the confusion, maybe re-post the one that is based on the tested and working model. This way we all have the same baseline circuit to work with.

[dragon]

They? Can you post the diagram? I did some cleaning up a few days ago. I need to look at the diagram to see that we are on the same page. In the v5.4.8n only see one PPV.

Ok, yea, I have several variations. The 5.4.8 I have is one variation of the mirror circuit then I guess the latest one is the v7 ? Both are similar with small changes....

To remove all the confusion, maybe re-post the one that is based on the tested and working model. This way we all have the same baseline circuit to work with.

[radioionics]

Thanks Bruce ..... A couple questions about your PPV...

It is a directional device correct?

In the drawing 5.4.8, are they placed in the correct direction?

They? Can you post the diagram? I did some cleaning up a few days ago. I need to look at the diagram to see that we are on the same page. In the v5.4.8n only see one PPV.

[tesluh]

It is a fact that there is a largely untapped source of energy which surrounds the planet. Moray called it "The Sea of Energy in Which The Earth Floats." It is very obvious to me, and very frustrating everyone is going off in their own directions, looking for something that is a hair's distance under their noses.

What exactly is a hairs distance under our noses that we are looking for and not finding, the "sea of energy" or the way to harvest it?

[Wistiti]

This will work but here is a better circuit!

Merry Christmas!



Without the mirror circuit at least half of the energy spills and goes back into the great void!

Hi guys.

I cant tell if it is because of my ant/ground setup (if so it will take few month before the spring arrived here and i'll be able to setup new one) or it is because of some primary hv problems (as you know I have isolated it and change my flyback for a better one) or simply because I miss some skills, but after few try(I even try to change the ground for antenna connection), money and time, I am far from the result supposed to be in the pdf V.7.0.0...

I don't know about the result of other and hope they have better than mine...
But until now I have hard time with this circuit...

Hope all the "secrets" are reveled cause it's frustrated when you give your best and know after a while there is something missing...

For now I will take a break and standby with the "Mirror circuit" until I can see better result than mine or until the spring coming...

When the parts I have order came in, I will give a try to the last simplified circuit Soundiceuk have share to see if I can achieve better results...

Am still open for comments and help!

Bruce and Soundiceuk, sorry for my
poor results and negative post....

[dragon]

Thanks Bruce ..... A couple questions about your PPV...

It is a directional device correct?

In the drawing 5.4.8, are they placed in the correct direction?

[radioionics]

Your ion valve is more akin to a diode than a regulator. A smaller voltage will move freely to the tube from the wire where a charge on the tube will need to be much much higher to move toward the wire.

The latter is how I visualized the ant/grd which is why I used that set up to create an artificial environment. The ant/grd is basically the same thing - an ion valve - just on a much larger scale.

I needed to create a baseline of the circuit - one that answered all my questions about how it functions and performs so when I build the PPV all the changes in performance ( if any ) would be based on only that one part.

Yes, it also functions a high voltage rectifier. I remember testing it many years ago with a Tesla coil and it rectified its high voltage/high frequency output.

To replace the ant/grd you could try using a porous cylinder. The wire and cylinder interelectrode spacing must be open to the air. The effect is stifled without a fresh supply of air. It cannot be choked off. The wire/cylinder couple must have a contact potential difference as was first observed by Galvani in his experiments.

[radioionics]

Most excellent Bruce. I've looked at these, and many of your drawings in the past. It appears that I've reproduced a successful "ion valve" then. I believe these have a past much further back than you and I. These are only a few of many I've studied, a couple I've reproduced with some interesting anomalies which I continue to pursue in the ground circuits.

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We are still overlooking something.... this nagging quest I'm currently on is beyond the valve itself. This crosses over to both our works and I know your just as frustrated as I am at times. It's at the point of total frustration where we finally ask the right question, in that moment, the answer becomes obvious. I'm currently there....

I'm not overlooking "something." Yes, it is beyond the valve. The valve effect is the key, and it isn't the end of the road. It's fundamental effects have to be expanded to generate electrical power. An example is the Crookes Radiometer which is a meek effect, until some bright person comes along and expands on it, I'm still waiting for this someone to expand on it. Are you up to the task? I could do it with some effort but my present focus is to see that my radioionics findings shared on this forum will become a useful product in the very near future.

It is a fact that there is a largely untapped source of energy which surrounds the planet. Moray called it "The Sea of Energy in Which The Earth Floats." It is very obvious to me, and very frustrating everyone is going off in their own directions, looking for something that is a hair's distance under their noses.

[dragon]

*A standalone ION VALVE is no more than a voltage regulator. It can be used to COUPLE with a source of ion potential energy.

Your ion valve is more akin to a diode than a regulator. A smaller voltage will move freely to the tube from the wire where a charge on the tube will need to be much much higher to move toward the wire.

The latter is how I visualized the ant/grd which is why I used that set up to create an artificial environment. The ant/grd is basically the same thing - an ion valve - just on a much larger scale.

I needed to create a baseline of the circuit - one that answered all my questions about how it functions and performs so when I build the PPV all the changes in performance ( if any ) would be based on only that one part.

[Wistiti]

I couldn't say for sure, they generally charge an output cap to store energy until it can breach the gap. You might be able to power it up quickly, ( tap the input with a battery ) not long enough for it to charge completely. Then place a neon bulb across the leads - this should discharge it to a level it could be measured with a conventional meter.

You might want to be prepared to sacrifice a meter for the cause.... one of those cheap 5 buck meters might suffice...

Hey thanks for that! It is a clever way to find the polarity!!! The neon bulb I have are rated to fire at 90v so no problem for a conventional meter.