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  • Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    If you could also propose any pure sinewave inverter circuit 50-60hz around 100-200W the simplest one I would be grateful. We can use that later for modulation of output as proposed by one of Zilano circuit to obtain grid frequency and use various checks of power level.
    I know that is not easy task. I tried with Wein bridge signal generator and audio car amplifier but I cannot find any cheap chip to boost power to 100W. I ended with 10W inverter which is too low to saturate any core.
    There are few ways how to do sine wave. Proper is true sine wave modulated via PWM, perfect sine. Or modified square wave can be used. This solution is easier to do, but typically DSP or some micro controller do the job.

    Or you can do grid connected inverter as active end, pump power back to the grid and slow down your meter, or even reverse it if you have enough power..

    Power bridge are 4 IGBT / MOSFET and filter coil.... Or transformer. You can go up to kW range if you want, just to parallel components )

    I have recently developed solar panel true sine wave inverter up to 2kW and it would be nice to replace solar panel with better active front end

    But this stage is not relevant now....

    see here for info: Inverter (electrical) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or here Sine Wave Inverters - Australia's Best Value 12V Power Inverters

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    • Diodes

      Regarding diodes. There is no problem with diodes. There is a lot of diodes out there which can be used for this application. If resonant frequency will be in say up to 1 MHz. They are used in switching power supplies and other RF applications.

      Farnell : DSEI120-12A , DSEI60-10A , DH20-18A, DH60-18A, etc

      Farnell or Digikey are not only supplier. See for example Semicron, Vishay or Ixys : IXYS Website > Product Portfolio > Power Devices

      Voltage is not problem as serial combination will sum voltage of both diodes.
      Parallel will sum of course current...

      Cinan

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      • Originally posted by Cata_2012 View Post
        I'm going deeper in reading Tesla works ...it apeared that he developed an IMPULSE TECHNOLOGY as oposed with weave technology wich Marconi done . In Tesla Technology it is generated a flux of Aether wich (is belived to be of gaseos nature but without mass and electrical charge ) . Unidirectional powerful impulses(DC) (in creation of witch spark gaps have an esential role ) antrenate a flux of Aether wich "flow" over the coil and between the ends of coil it is build a great electrical potential while there is no electrical curent (made of electons ) wich flow thru the coil . When passing thru metal surfaces this curent of Aether generate in the metals electrons making the electrical curent (made by electrons) to occur .
        So , from what I understood so far the cold electricity is the Ether flux (Ether in Tesla's opinion is a gasous substance made by subatomic particles much smaller than electrons - maybe the one wich is named in our days "dark matter" - wich could through every substance generating in metalic substances emision of electrons ) .
        So it apears that of paramount importance to obtain this effect is to have a very high DC voltage discharged in very fast sequences of time (by spark gap) wich antrenate Aether but keep the electrons blocked in their metal latices due to inertia . Aether is belived travel with the speed of light or greater and at the intersection with metals generate electrons resulting in electrical curent as we know it . Shape of the coils and top capacitors also have great importance . ...This is what I understood so far from what I'm reading about Tesla's works . Radiant Energy = Aether fluxes ...not electrical curent (made of electrons) as we may be tempted to belive . Electrical curent ocurrs as a byproduct of Aether flux crosing metal surfaces .

        Indeed.Very good, but you made one mistake.It's not about repetition of impulses, it's about how fast you can quench spark. The output must be electrostatic, longitudinal sound-like wave in ether in which magnetic field is supressed into very very thin disc.
        Meyl has got it right I believe. The actual miconception is that such wave doesn't exists.
        Personally I agree .... and disagree. Such waves can exists only in gaseous or fluid substances and we have perfectl prepared such fluid around us.It's Earth magnetic field.
        Evrything is quite simple but without an information from outside of our Earth it is hard to grasp the exact working "wheelwork of nature".
        Here is what I believe : every overunity systems are taking energy from Earth either from magnetic flux or indirectly from electrostatic charge or from both.By resonance - there is no other way.

        I would really like to know what Zilano is thinking about this.

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        • Originally posted by cinan View Post
          There are few ways how to do sine wave. Proper is true sine wave modulated via PWM, perfect sine. Or modified square wave can be used. This solution is easier to do, but typically DSP or some micro controller do the job.

          Or you can do grid connected inverter as active end, pump power back to the grid and slow down your meter, or even reverse it if you have enough power..

          Power bridge are 4 IGBT / MOSFET and filter coil.... Or transformer. You can go up to kW range if you want, just to parallel components )

          I have recently developed solar panel true sine wave inverter up to 2kW and it would be nice to replace solar panel with better active front end

          But this stage is not relevant now....

          see here for info: Inverter (electrical) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or here Sine Wave Inverters - Australia's Best Value 12V Power Inverters
          Aha..ok.I will dig some schematic when it come to that device I tried previously (ferroresonance), now I postponed it for better understanding of Kapanadze and Don Smith methods.

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          • Do a search on youtube

            Inventor died suddenly.

            This device will be simple to reproduce.
            the ionizing of gaseous material allowing for 5 times output as claimed.
            A lesser known cause. UV light. If you have a UV laser i would start testing spark gaps to cause the energy to increase.

            In other words It was widely known UV light can cause a spark to jump a gap farther than without the UV source. THIS IS A KEY TO UNLOCKING THE SECRETS WE ALL SHARE.
            I seen some awesome plasma type ionizers on youtube. They don't even know what they got yet. A energy source.


            Cata_2012 This is the energy I am experimenting with, and the reason i joined the forum. Lifters, static negative dc charge cold static electricity.

            Originally Posted by Cata_2012 View Post
            I'm going deeper in reading Tesla works ...it apeared that he developed an IMPULSE TECHNOLOGY as oposed with weave technology wich Marconi done . In Tesla Technology it is generated a flux of Aether wich (is belived to be of gaseos nature but without mass and electrical charge ) . Unidirectional powerful impulses(DC) (in creation of witch spark gaps have an esential role ) antrenate a flux of Aether wich "flow" over the coil and between the ends of coil it is build a great electrical potential while there is no electrical curent (made of electons ) wich flow thru the coil . When passing thru metal surfaces this curent of Aether generate in the metals electrons making the electrical curent (made by electrons) to occur .
            So , from what I understood so far the cold electricity is the Ether flux (Ether in Tesla's opinion is a gasous substance made by subatomic particles much smaller than electrons - maybe the one wich is named in our days "dark matter" - wich could through every substance generating in metalic substances emision of electrons ) .
            So it apears that of paramount importance to obtain this effect is to have a very high DC voltage discharged in very fast sequences of time (by spark gap) wich antrenate Aether but keep the electrons blocked in their metal latices due to inertia . Aether is belived travel with the speed of light or greater and at the intersection with metals generate electrons resulting in electrical curent as we know it . Shape of the coils and top capacitors also have great importance . ...This is what I understood so far from what I'm reading about Tesla's works . Radiant Energy = Aether fluxes ...not electrical curent (made of electrons) as we may be tempted to belive . Electrical curent ocurrs as a byproduct of Aether flux crosing metal surfaces .
            Last edited by mire; 01-12-2012, 06:27 PM.
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            • Originally posted by mr.clean View Post
              Can anyone with experience with capacitive discharges tell me if there is anything special about this ??
              --Or if its no biggie, let me know... but...

              This discharge can be done repetitively over and over, sounds like a gunshot! (hard to see in the vid), and input current remains unaffected .5A at 12volts.

              I just dont know how to measure it.
              In about 1 second it can fully charge a bank of 8 (660v) 30uf caps.
              I think a good way to estimate the wattage is to use a high wattage bulb and measure lumen / lux output with a lumen /lux meter.

              If you use a 600watt bulb using mains power then measure the lumen output and compare it using the capacitive discharge.

              After all Tesla's own lighting circuit is capacitive discharge.

              Tesla Patent 454,622 - System of Electric Lighting

              I'll send you a 600w bulb if you PM me your address.

              If it lights up and your only using 1 amp it will categorically prove OU.

              This will then attract alot of attention to this thread and it will move forward at an extreme pace. Whoop Whoop!!!!

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              • I found this statement related to adjusting resonance frequencies of Don's coils ...it might be worth that someone verify it and post the results :
                "moving the primary coil by sliding it through the secondary coil, alters the primary and secondary resonant frequency by the same amount, and therefore acts as a frequency control for the device"
                If the statement is true ..then all of a sudden the device become much more simple to control .

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                • Originally posted by Cata_2012 View Post
                  I found this statement related to adjusting resonance frequencies of Don's coils ...it might be worth that someone verify it and post the results :
                  "moving the primary coil by sliding it through the secondary coil, alters the primary and secondary resonant frequency by the same amount, and therefore acts as a frequency control for the device"
                  If the statement is true ..then all of a sudden the device become much more simple to control .
                  I have noticed that the sound of the spark will change when i insert L1, also if i put a core inside while running, it makes the same reaction, except cores in my case are only a performance blocker.

                  but ya, they do change with their proximity, idk how much though
                  In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                  In the expert's mind there are few.
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                  • Originally posted by soundiceuk View Post
                    I think a good way to estimate the wattage is to use a high wattage bulb and measure lumen / lux output with a lumen /lux meter.

                    If you use a 600watt bulb using mains power then measure the lumen output and compare it using the capacitive discharge.

                    After all Tesla's own lighting circuit is capacitive discharge.

                    Tesla Patent 454,622 - System of Electric Lighting

                    I'll send you a 600w bulb if you PM me your address.

                    If it lights up and your only using 1 amp it will categorically prove OU.

                    This will then attract alot of attention to this thread and it will move forward at an extreme pace. Whoop Whoop!!!!
                    I appreciate it, but dont worry about it man, ive got lots of bulbs

                    Question, how to protect bulbs from arcing in between? resistor across the leads?
                    In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                    In the expert's mind there are few.
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                    • Primary for Dons device pulse from outside to inside with your two ignition coils
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                      • Diodes parallel/ serial

                        I feel it is important for you to understand what kind of animal a diode is and how to keep them appropriate.
                        The answer if diodes can be set serial or parallel is a quite distinct: yes/no! It depends.

                        Now what happens if we set diodes in parallel in order to increase total current?
                        The diode junctions of transistors deviate their forward voltage by -2 mV per Kelvin. So the voltage drops with increased temperature. You can use this behavior in order to measure temperatures. It is quite linear over a wide temperature range.
                        Dangers:
                        Firstly they might not have the same forward voltage. It depends slightly on the manufacturing batch.
                        Secondly they get warm and decrease their forward voltage. The lowest forward voltage will like to draw most of the current. So this poor component will decrease the voltage and get even more current......bang!
                        Fortunately this is not the end of the story.
                        You can set diodes in parallel if you obey the following conditions:
                        - The diodes need to be out of the same production batch (very probably if you bought them together - else measure the forward voltage at same temperature and current).
                        - The diodes need to be thermally coupled as good as possible. Very easy if you have case with a fin and a mounting hole.
                        This notions do not give any garantee and is NOT goot practice but it's often succesfully applied.

                        Now what happens if we set diodes in series in order to increase total voltage?
                        If we had ideal diodes the story would end here. Unfortunately diodes are mere mortals and own some very uncomfortable properties. They do not block all current. A slight rest of current will still flow in reverse while blocking active. (see data sheet) It is essential this reverse current to be identical for all diodes in the chain. If not: Imagine a voltage devider with lots of resistors being of different value - you will devide the total voltage in steps not beeing the same. Some elements will get higher voltage and will start with a short circuit (voltage breakdown). The rest of the crowd will suffer on even higher burden and the next will die.......all will die in a sudden bang.
                        Fortunately this is not the end of the story.
                        - The diodes need to be out of the same production batch (very probably if you bought them together - else measure the reverse current at same temperature and same voltage). So you will get very similar reverse current and rated voltage.
                        - Try to couple them somehow thermally (not easy) in order to not suffer of individual deviation of blocking voltage and reverse current regarding temperature.
                        - Compute a margin of about 20% of the RATED voltage in order to account for individual differencies of the diodes. (NEVER EVER compute with absolute maximum voltages out of the data sheet!)
                        - Measure the individual voltages of your setup at a fixed high voltage (before first use) in order to be shure you have no exotic diode in your crowd. One dying will take all members to semiconducor nirvana and you have to pay the journey.
                        This notions do not give any garantee and is NOT goot practice but it's often succesfully applied.
                        Goot practice is:
                        - Add a high value resistor in parallel to each diode. The value should allow a current of at least 5 times (better: factor 20) the expected reverse current through the diode. Thus you deminish the influence of the diode reverse current regarding blocking voltage. Resistors are far more reliable regarding temperature compared to semiconductors. But please look for max voltage of the resistors! It might be necessary to set more than one in series for everey diode.
                        This is reliable and GOOD pratice.

                        This is my penny inorder to suppert you for more reliable setups.

                        @soundiceuk Your suggetion for diodes:
                        - http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/RH/RHRG75120.pdf - Example of a quite fast diode.
                        - http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds28009.pdf - example of a slow diode. They say it is designed for mains frequency (60Hz)

                        rgds John
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                        • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post

                          Primary for Dons device pulse from outside to inside with your two ignition coils
                          A thing of beauty <3

                          Nice one man, i really like that

                          THIS IS YOUR PRIMARY? vukn COOOL
                          Last edited by mr.clean; 01-12-2012, 09:27 PM.
                          In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                          In the expert's mind there are few.
                          -Shunryu Suzuki

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                          • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                            .....
                            Primary for Dons device pulse from outside to inside with your two ignition coils
                            Primary?
                            left ccw / right cw split primary?
                            Please explain. Large gap in my brain!!
                            Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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                            • Originally posted by Cata_2012 View Post
                              ....

                              So , from what I understood so far the cold electricity is the Ether flux (Ether in Tesla's opinion is a gasous substance made by subatomic particles much smaller than electrons - maybe the one wich is named in our days "dark matter" - wich could through every substance generating in metalic substances emision of electrons ) .
                              ......
                              Radiant Energy = Aether fluxes ...not electrical curent (made of electrons) as we may be tempted to belive . Electrical curent ocurrs as a byproduct of Aether flux crosing metal surfaces .
                              AGREE with the addition: a very very dense medium flowing through and penetrating matter like wind through meshed net of wires.
                              Watch: lectures in English from Nassim Haramein
                              Your notion is correct: you can do a lot of strange things with this dense medium! That's why we attend this forum
                              Last edited by JohnStone; 01-12-2012, 10:39 PM.
                              Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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                              • Don's device works on the principle of catching bemf, so if you have two secondary's you need two primary's to power each secondary in the direction it needs power.
                                For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction so power the primary's from the outside in and get a reaction from the inside out.
                                the primary's must be wound exactly like the secondary's
                                Last edited by Dave45; 01-13-2012, 01:03 AM.
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