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  • Hi,
    is anybody able to buy that bloody patent in "professional English? I'm ready to contribute some bugs via paypal! It contains lot of explanation additional to my post #2458
    Last edited by JohnStone; 01-19-2012, 08:49 PM.
    Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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    • I'm wrestling over on that poxed site now The Saga so far … They do have an automatic translation service .. who knows if its any better than what you have got from google ? + so I opted for the super duper human translation .. and that has directed me to contact by email .. which I have .. I wait with baited breath... if its as fast as that web site I'll be here with a long time to wait
      Last edited by Duncan; 01-19-2012, 09:22 PM.
      Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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      • 1. Human translation ■ Korean→English (US$43/page)

        2. Sample of automatic translation sample proceed to "K2E-PAT- Beispiel" (US$ 30 per doc)
        Last edited by JohnStone; 01-19-2012, 09:53 PM.
        Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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        • John even if you opt for the automatic translation it still directs you to email them. before it does anything ... although I see theres an american guy in Austin who's already got the document so it must work .. evetually
          Last edited by Duncan; 01-19-2012, 10:09 PM.
          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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          • Just tried Babylon for translation. It is a bit better but still not understandable not worth to publish. Korean seems to have a strange logic in their language. Did you observe these strange endings paragraphs - you expect a second half sentence to follow in order to be complete.
            Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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            • Suggestion

              Hi John,

              I'd suggest holding off spending any money on the patent yet. If it's like most patents, it doesn't give you all the pertinent facts for replication any way. I think we are pretty close to maybe having something on this channel if you can wait a bit. I would suggest concentrating on the two pdfs I provided. We are missing a lot of circuits and diagrams from the lost page lot, but we have everything from the more current lot. Concentrate on specific instructions from Zilano and specific circuits or diagrams she showed. This would be a good start any way. I think Zilano laid out almost everything we need and that's why she left us because her work was completed. She left the building up to us.

              Best Regards,
              David Fine

              Originally posted by JohnStone View Post
              1. Human translation ■ Korean→English (US$43/page)

              2. Sample of automatic translation sample proceed to "K2E-PAT- Beispiel" (US$ 30 per doc)

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              • I've got a little present to share with you and I'm sure you'll recognise the famous handywork and so you know who to thank .. this is unedited at the moment ... http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b2/Zilano2.pdf
                Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                • Oh and he also saw that horrible scribble I did slapped me around the ear and transformed it into this http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b2/Duncan.bmp so a bless PJK .. thank you sir .. and of course ZZZZ who I am now reliably informed suggested the string of neons as viable alternative.. no one frightened of them ...is there?
                  Last edited by Duncan; 01-19-2012, 10:54 PM.
                  Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                  • Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                    Mr cleans coil details
                    In the first instance L2 was a BW coil 2404 TL 3 inch Diameter .. if you recall he decided to reverse the direction of the winds in one half at a later stage.Miniductor and Airdux air wound coils catalog
                    and as per Don Smith he's removed a couple of coils from the centre
                    In the demonstration we are watching He's decided to use a 2410 TL (if I'm reading 14 Gauge right)
                    Thanks for the help Duncan! COIL PORN! What to buy! lol

                    What caps have you gone for?

                    Many thanks to Zilano, Patrick, Slovenia and everyone else too!

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                    • Member: Vrand Query

                      Hi Vrand!!

                      I want to offer you my most sincere apologies for bothering you sir!! I won't do it again.

                      All the Best,
                      David Fine / Slovenia
                      Last edited by Slovenia; 01-20-2012, 02:23 AM. Reason: reduced font size

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                      • Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                        Point taken Slovenia the voice of reason as always .. Paranoid me?? well I must confess a bit yes , but then I have been visited before and it cost … anyway how about a little help doing something that will really help to piss the bad guys off and promote a build ? Mr Clean went to great pains to produce a working machine and demonstrate it to us remember right here Don Smith Device Project Part 20b: Revised Schematic, Increased Output, and Capacitor Discharge - YouTube he says he was going to produce a nice schematic to go with it but never got around to it.
                        I have no computer program to draw circuits and would probably make a hash of it anyway … unusually there is all the winding details and every component listed .. In short there is every thing here to duplicate this exactly.
                        And whilst it may not be perfect … It works and its replicable I've sketched the drawing as best I can (although I’ve been scribbling a bit on it .. would someone like to make a decent working drawing of it as Mr Clean intended? And posting it large
                        http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b2/Mr Cleans sketch.pdf
                        If not I'll do my best in due course
                        Hi buddy, hehe that WAS my good drawing LOL
                        too funny,

                        Yes its not perfect yet, but working on it as we speak. And every time it gets better and better, so if i continue the trend.... bingo. no magic, just perseverance

                        Its fun to solve the riddles that Don gave us, still have never been able to put the HV nst terminals together as in Dons L1 side, but from playing around, i figured out the series gap DID work.

                        And now i have the bell shaped wave (didnt have it before) , the output caps charging (recently achieved) , and the freq is right where i want it now, (was a mystery before)...

                        I will make another drawing of the layout, but hopefully its enough to get people to make some beefy sparks
                        Im making more changes and improvements as we speak, just havent been on the forums lately, too busy for typing

                        Im getting another 14 gauge inductor for other half of L2, or maybe reverse wind one (or do both), either way, i like the higher inductance, higher windings, and that it is the same gauge as home wiring.

                        Then to get caps and isolation and voltage divider going, then throw on a 4700uf 16 volt cap over the input and see if it can kick its own ass into self-feeding

                        So thats whats up with me right here, talk to you all soon

                        To Unity and Beyond
                        In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                        In the expert's mind there are few.
                        -Shunryu Suzuki

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                        • Patrick Kelly rules again

                          Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                          Oh and he also saw that horrible scribble I did slapped me around the ear and transformed it into this http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b2/Duncan.bmp so a bless PJK .. thank you sir .. and of course ZZZZ who I am now reliably informed suggested the string of neons as viable alternative.. no one frightened of them ...is there?
                          WOW thats GREAT! and so "clean" and simple eh?

                          i gotta find out how to do sweet drawings to post here, never tried.
                          BUT the exact coil numbers are subject to change, however, yes thats exactly whats going on in last vid.

                          The 10 gauge was not providing much in the video tho, it was just to have the other side connected AS IN TESLAS PATENT, notice one side was slightly LESS turns??
                          Fig 2 from patent 336,961

                          And i love the idea of Neons as SG, and from experience, you'll need A LOT of them, a viewable and ADJUSTABLE gap is CRUTIAL, so two opposing bolts works for me. Im CONSTANTLY adjusting gap.
                          Last edited by mr.clean; 01-20-2012, 01:35 AM.
                          In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                          In the expert's mind there are few.
                          -Shunryu Suzuki

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                          • Originally posted by DilJalaay View Post
                            Thank you very much. Its korean patent for "Electrical energy conversion devices using the resonant circuit"
                            Some snap shots for study purpose guys. it very much resemble with zalino post.





                            Would love if some on translate in good English.

                            Regs to all.

                            DJ

                            P.S:Just join you guys, space please.
                            NICE ONE DJ !!! holy good find, first time ive seen this anyway, yes very close to Z's drawings then
                            In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                            In the expert's mind there are few.
                            -Shunryu Suzuki

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                            • Originally posted by soundiceuk View Post
                              Thanks for the help Duncan! COIL PORN! What to buy! lol

                              What caps have you gone for?

                              Many thanks to Zilano, Patrick, Slovenia and everyone else too!
                              TOO funny, total inductor porn yes

                              And the B&W numbers showing 24"04" and "10" indicate model and the turns per INCH
                              In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                              In the expert's mind there are few.
                              -Shunryu Suzuki

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                              • mr.cleano videos

                                Hi mr.clean,

                                I've been watching your vids on YouTube. Very Nice!!!!!

                                Best Regards,
                                David Fine

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