Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[SLOW-N-EASY]

SLOW-N-EASY,

Thanks very much for sharing your update with us!!

Best Regards,
David Fine

I appreciate the acknowlegement

Best Wishes
Thanks David

[SLOW-N-EASY]

Hi Slow and Easy!

ur getting on right track! Congrats! I feel Happy wot u achieved. and wish u to achieve more!
good luck!

ps: do check the output u r getting is cold or hot. try a small incadescent bulb with filament and touch it if u feel heat then its hot electricity if it feels cold then its cold electricity.


rgds
zzzz

T appreciate the response. I have learned alot on this forum.

Thanks for any help
Regards

[OrionLightShip]

@slow n easy

Just trying to understand your schematic. I know nothing. I am no body. I just want to try and understand what everyone is doing. So many people with so many different ideas.

1. You show the nst being powered by a 12 volt battery. Is that just an oversight? Are you using an inverter to power it?

2. You're using diodes after the nst so your input into L1 is pulsed DC. Is that intentional and desirable? Using a spark gap and running it through diodes your input to L1 would be a huge range of frequencies and all possible harmonics. That is a lot of off resonant frequency energy. Maybe that's what works?

3. You are calculating the length based on wavelength. What frequency are you designing for?

3. Your diodes are rated for 1000 v reverse so with 2 in series, you're good for 2,000. How can that work with a nst? Maybe that's what it takes, reverse breakdown. I have no clue, just asking.

4. How is your center grounded conductor at the spark gap constructed? What do you see at the spark gap when it is operating? I don't understand how that can possibly work. I thought that was a Don Smith misdirection.

5. What is the voltage and current being returned to the battery?

If I am misreading your schematic, then please excuse my ignorance.


Any help in understanding this setup would be appreciated.

Thanks

Orion

[xee2]

1. You show the nst being powered by a 12 volt battery. Is that just an oversight? Are you using an inverter to power it?

I suspect it is a neon sign power supply rather than a neon sign transformer.

Neon Sign Power Supply - YouTube

[harishsingh]

brilliant

don low voltage proof of concept

free energy demostration, free energy experiment - YouTube

courtesy: internet

imagine how much u get when resonance and earth connexion used.

....

Radiant charging of capacitor. Watch what he says about the batteries. It's important.

Collecting radiant energy from SSG / Bedini motor - YouTube

Watch till the end.

SSG / Bedini motor with strobe light from FWBR and Capacitor only. - YouTube


Could we use 'Charged Capacitor Collector' to rectify this ? Would an AV plug to ground and spark gap (la lenz collector) help to convert this into usable dynamic current ?










Thanks much.
HS

[OrionLightShip]

I suspect it is a neon sign power supply rather than a neon sign transformer.

Neon Sign Power Supply - YouTube

watch the video....he says the input is line current and you can see it is plugged in.

Orion

[xee2]

watch the video....he says the input is line current and you can see it is plugged in.

Orion

They are also made for battery input. Google "neon sign power supply"

[penno64]

I've figured out how Richards Willis Magnacoarse/Vorktex coil and 2 magnets works as a generator

It is quite simple but purhaps not the way you would have thought.
It is a Magnetic Resonant Oscillator i.e oscillates a magnetic field at resonance.

The two opposing magnets are like if you would load 2 springs against each other, pulling or pushing with equal force.

If you pull or push in at the center connection between the springs it will load one way and when you let go the try to return to the center of equal force.

But as nature is not digital it will not stop at the center but will overshoot a couple of times before settling and you have oscillations like a coil ringdown but with a magnetic field instead.

As the coil is situated inbetween the magnets it will be able to shift the magnetic field in either direction and "load the springs"

When it releases, the magnetic field rings down but as the coil is in this magnetic field it will generate several CEMF kickbacks, like shaking one of those flashlight and you have several kickback pulses.

And I can tell you that it works
But it is very sensitive to how hard you tension the magnetic field and how much power you put into the coil charging it.

How about that now

Hi Janost,

Thank you so much for that "understandable" explanation.

I wonder could you be tempted to start a new thread a pursue
this magnacoaster technology further?

Kindest Regards, Penno

[VasiliyBuslaev]

Dear Patrick and forum, it is my duty to warn you about the falsification of the replication apparatus of Donald Smith, the so-called Dynatron from forums on Free Energy from the country of Ukraine. None of his equipment is not functioning and does not give the output power exceeds the input.I learned that this man came in contact with Patrick and is trying to turn their device into a new book by Patrick.
I want to warn you Patrick and respected users that Dynatron - this is a commercial project that has nothing to do with science and creativity.You can see this, when you look at the forum link above, where the money is going to develop, but in fact went to the formation of his own private enterprise. He two years of deceiving the people on the forums.
The real purpose of this action, the next hiding information from the inventors of free energy.
Dear Patrick, when Dynatron will tell you that this is a lie, ask other disinterested members of the forums. His task, the maximum display on the television, the Internet and books, but in fact a fiction. If you care of truth, do not include in your edition of the device of Dynatron, unless of course you are interested in the truth.Please do not distribute it lies in your esteemed publication.Thank you for your attention.

Vasiliy Buslaev

[Patrick Kelly]

Dear Patrick and forum, it is my duty to warn you about the falsification of the replication apparatus of Donald Smith, the so-called Dynatron from forums on Free Energy from the country of Ukraine. None of his equipment is not functioning and does not give the output power exceeds the input.I learned that this man came in contact with Patrick and is trying to turn their device into a new book by Patrick.
I want to warn you Patrick and respected users that Dynatron - this is a commercial project that has nothing to do with science and creativity.You can see this, when you look at the forum link above, where the money is going to develop, but in fact went to the formation of his own private enterprise. He two years of deceiving the people on the forums.
The real purpose of this action, the next hiding information from the inventors of free energy.
Dear Patrick, when Dynatron will tell you that this is a lie, ask other disinterested members of the forums. His task, the maximum display on the television, the Internet and books, but in fact a fiction. If you care of truth, do not include in your edition of the device of Dynatron, unless of course you are interested in the truth.Please do not distribute it lies in your esteemed publication.Thank you for your attention.

Vasiliy Buslaev

Hi Vasiliy,

Thank you for your comments. As Sergei's 'Dynatron' is aimed at being a replication of Tariel Kapanadze's coil, are you saying that all of Kapanadze's work is also fake?

Any Dynatron details which I could locate have been in my eBook for some considerable time now, as has a theoretical analysis by William McFreey who considers it to be a version of the Meyer-Mead patented design. If it proves impossible to replicate the Dynatron device, then I will eventually state that, but in the mean time, I will continue to share any details which I know in order to encourage people who are good at experimenting to try a replication and discover what the outcome of their testing happens to be.

I have not been asked to produce a book on the Dynatron, but I would be willing to do so if asked. Personally, I am inclined to believe what Sergei says and shows, not that my opinion matters very much one way or the other. As has happened several times in the past, I am happy to assist anyone with documentation of their ideas, projects and/or proven systems (without charge and often without any mention of my name). If it is their information, then they are entitled to have it documented and do whatever they want with their documentation, commercially or otherwise.

Let me say again, my eBook is not a description of devices which I personally have built, tested and can vouch for. Instead, it is intended to be a newcomer's introduction to the subject, with ideas, explanations where possible, pointers to web material, other people's eBooks, some relevant patents, and the like. Only about 5% of my website material originates with me, and the majority of what people seem to think comes from me, actually comes from experimenters and developers, almost none of whom I have ever met. My eBook is just a sharing of some of the interesting material which I have come across when investigating the subject, and it is all presented on the basis of 'make up your own mind and take it or leave it' as an attempt to ease the research work of newcomers. I have no agenda. I am not interested in 'credibility' or 'reputation' and anyone is welcome to think whatever they want about me. I don't try to mislead people, but being human, I will never get everything 100% right every time.

Thank you for your warning, but for the time being I am would be more than happy to receive information in English from Sergei or his associates.

All the best,

Patrick

[Eng.raied]

Hi Vasiliy,

Thank you for your comments. As Sergei's 'Dynatron' is aimed at being a replication of Tariel Kapanadze's coil, are you saying that all of Kapanadze's work is also fake?

Any Dynatron details which I could locate have been in my eBook for some considerable time now, as has a theoretical analysis by William McFreey who considers it to be a version of the Meyer-Mead patented design. If it proves impossible to replicate the Dynatron device, then I will eventually state that, but in the mean time, I will continue to share any details which I know in order to encourage people who are good at experimenting to try a replication and discover what the outcome of their testing happens to be.

I have not been asked to produce a book on the Dynatron, but I would be willing to do so if asked. Personally, I am inclined to believe what Sergei says and shows, not that my opinion matters very much one way or the other. As has happened several times in the past, I am happy to assist anyone with documentation of their ideas, projects and/or proven systems (without charge and often without any mention of my name). If it is their information, then they are entitled to have it documented and do whatever they want with their documentation, commercially or otherwise.

Let me say again, my eBook is not a description of devices which I personally have built, tested and can vouch for. Instead, it is intended to be a newcomer's introduction to the subject, with ideas, explanations where possible, pointers to web material, other people's eBooks, some relevant patents, and the like. Only about 5% of my website material originates with me, and the majority of what people seem to think comes from me, actually comes from experimenters and developers, almost none of whom I have ever met. My eBook is just a sharing of some of the interesting material which I have come across when investigating the subject, and it is all presented on the basis of 'make up your own mind and take it or leave it' as an attempt to ease the research work of newcomers. I have no agenda. I am not interested in 'credibility' or 'reputation' and anyone is welcome to think whatever they want about me. I don't try to mislead people, but being human, I will never get everything 100% right every time.

Thank you for your warning, but for the time being I am would be more than happy to receive information in English from Sergei or his associates.

All the best,

Patrick

hi all
hi Patrick
what best OU device we can replicate it tested and practical
not just drawings or ideas
thanks in advance

[VasiliyBuslaev]

Hi all, Hi Patrik

Dear Patrick, your sensitivity makes you honor. With your publication I am aware from the very beginning of this century in the Kelly-net.
Therefore, the interim review is large enough for evaluation. At one time I collected all of your publication and I want to protect you from rogue. Apparently you are not very available Russian-language content, so you can see a little distance with whom you are dealing. But you know better what to do. I hope the new publication will not cause a stop to new research.
It's a pity peoples who lost so much time in vain, as many coils rewound and all for nothing. The effect is zero.

Thank you for your attention

[OrionLightShip]

They are also made for battery input. Google "neon sign power supply"

you are correct...that solves my first question........thanks

hopefully....slow n easy will answer the other important questions

Orion

[janost]

hi all
hi Patrick
what best OU device we can replicate it tested and practical
not just drawings or ideas
thanks in advance

Try the magnetic oscillator, that will be the safest bet at the moment.
If it doesn´t give you OU it does at least give you something.

[drodenbe]

Zilano Hi!

I am trying to keep an open mind here but I guess I need some questions answered. I must be missing the boat here. I am a retired controls Eng. and an old ham radio operator and transmitter builder. Started with ham radio at twelve. Built my first 2 meter transmitter at 12 years of age. So I am not clueless.

I retired 6 years ago and decided I needed to do something with my time. So one of the first projects I constructed was Don Smith's design. Even though everything in my education told me something was not right with his design and what he was saying I went and built it just like he explained and of course it did not work just like I thought it would not. So I put the coils in storage and worked on something else believing he was a crack pot and left it at that.

So here I am again looking at these threads about Don in dis belief that no one has asked the questions I had. So in keeping with an open mind as always I am going to ask you!

I am quite aware of how to get resonance from a tuned circuit with oscillator input. However not so sure what I need coming out of a spark gap or if it the same thing. This is what tesla designed and used in his transmitters which used a different type of wave propagation then what we use today. When the spark gap was dropped and the oscillator was introduced this changed the whole process and was used to hide and coverup the free energy aspect of his work. so saying all of that here is my questions.

Coming out of a spark gap you have multiple frequencies developed. In Dons work he uses a 35kz high voltage device to feed the spark gap. Now he gave an example in his work on how to design the coils. But he used 24.7 mhz as his frequency not 35khz. He gave L1 as 10 turns and L2 as 26.66 turns. Is he saying that even though we are using 35khz to drive the spark gap he is going to use a harmonic produced from the gap at 24.7 mhz? If this is the case then I can see where maybe I went wrong. But there is no way you are going to drive a 10 turn coil with the capacitor value he used and have it resonate at 35khz. Also the fact that he said to divide 247/frequency for 1/4 wave. So if you use 35 khz that gives you 89,818 feet divided by 11 if you use a 3.5 inch form because you have aprox 11 inches per turn so that gives you 8,165 if I use #18 gage wire you get 22 turns per inch. So 22 *11 =242 inches per inch of coil length. Divide 8,165/242= 33.73 inch long coil.

This not what don shows in his design. His coil should operate some where in the mhz range. So I guess if you can show me where I am wrong. It would be fantastic.