Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[mr.clean]

Thanks a lot Itsu,

I been looking for mr clean videos, and cant find any, do you by any change have a link...?

I will like to know how to make this voltage useful, and start from it. I am guessing with some capacitors...

The Stone.

hi buddy, very flattered to be referred to, i dont claim to have all the answers, but i am seeing some good results recently.

im kdkinen on youtube, heres my most recent
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

next i plan to parallel the caps up to the run battery while running and see if i can run the system, the bulb, and watch an increase in run battery voltage while using the caps as a buffer.

[mr.clean]

Mr.Clean you tried to use the charge in those caps cause I tried the setup you told me to an SG and trafo but could not get enough charge to light a bulb

could u be more specific, the no coil board? maybe forget the transformer, and try the light right to pos and neg on cap, and prob a dc bulb would be best

if your volts are too high then i would step down before caps, like my last vid

[TheStone]

the book is here :

SonoMagnetics™ Online Store

THANK YOU!

[Guruji]

could u be more specific, the no coil board? maybe forget the transformer, and try the light right to pos and neg on cap, and prob a dc bulb would be best

if your volts are too high then i would step down before caps, like my last vid

Yes I am not using coils right now. Can you please send a link of your last vid?
Thanks for response.

[mr.clean]

Yes I am not using coils right now. Can you please send a link of your last vid?
Thanks for response.

im pretty sure youve seen it,
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

you see the caps im using are very low voltage, so it would be very easy to overvolt them,

you could hit it as hard as you can and it wont charge because it is arcing internally and also prob isnt getting rectified properly.

so the voltage needed to be reduced by a resonant step down config, and in doing so, the respective current is converted up, and the high freq ring of L2 is harvested along with this now lower voltage and higher current can be captured.
these things you prob know, but that is the reason i did not just go from my driver straight to diodes and caps, it would lack the CURRENT needed to drive at least tens of watts... then add the caps, and you will certainly have the bulb lit.

there is some unconventional stuff happening, from the current in and out that im seeing, but ultimately we do still need to see the power out required BEFORE we add caps,
because although there is some "magic" going on here, the magic happens for a reason, it wont just "automatically" power anything you want.... that WILL be the plan.... but if you dont have the power for the bulb, it only means that you need more power

and 1 or 2 uf is not sufficient, you may be able to charge them, but the bulb will use it in a flash, and you will still need at least the power to satisfy the bulb before you add caps, you could wire one end of load to ground and the other to HV (without caps) just to make sure what power you are putting in the caps... then you could add the caps you want.

BUT if however you ARE putting in a lot (to me thats over 1 amp LOL ) and the output is the same or less than the input, (then its redundant lol)

..then its just a matter of tuning, obviously if you have no coils to tune, then it is surely even simpler, prob just need the voltage lowered into the range that your cap can handle not too big of a prob

And once the volts are lower and current higher, i see the gain here as being the higher freq, ( yours would be from freq AND ground contribution : )

i have found its priceless to have a good quality driver from the start, my ignition coils werent able to provide it, but the PVM500 im using is expensive, the PVM12 is still a great little driver, and the latter is the one i used with great success on the coilless board... but also the caps were 2000v @ 40uF, could have put more caps in series for higher voltage rating, but...

...i was still faced with stepping down, so i know this doesnt help as you want to avoid coils lol, but thats why i opted for a resonant stepdown (as most soft cores cant handle the freq) and then capture, because i dont feel like having that much voltage at the output to deal with when current is what i need you will see that with single higher wattage bulbs, this is inevitable, you need low volts, and high current for a bulb, then you really see what your system is doing, you may be pleased, maybe not hehe, BUT all workable man, dont worry

I still may use the last setup to go onto the other stepup coils i tuned in past vids,
Don Smith Device Project Part 27: Center-Tap Revival, and Caduceus L1 Resonant At All Frequencies - YouTube

but if no benefit, then i'll stick to the setup in vid 33 , optimize and finalize it

[harishsingh]

Don Smith free energy

Hi All,
This simple experiment shows the concept behind Don Smith's free energy. Make your coils to resonate at higher frequencies and enjoy the results.


Doubler of electricity with a single variable capacitor


Regards,
HS

All,

The magic of this experiment is explained here.






And, since the learned folks have taken the 5th and the subject is relevant to Don Smith, as it is to all free energy devices, I am forced to correct some misstatements about the alleged "Tesla attached a specially streamlined terminals on system to prevent losses due to ionization."


Tesla said in his Colorado experiments notes,

"What I strove for seemed unattainable, but a kind fate favored me and a few inspired experiments lifted the veil. It was a revelation wonderful and incredible explaining many mysteries of nature and disclosing as in a lightening flash the illusionary character of some modem theories incidentally also bearing out the universal truth of the above axiom."

"In his experiments he dwells first on some phenomena produced by electrostatic force, which he considers in the light of modern theories to be the most important force in nature for us to investigate. At the very outset he shows a strikingly novel experiment illustrating the effect of a rapidly varying electrostatic force in a gaseous medium, by touching with one hand one of the terminals of a 200,000 volt transformer and bringing then other hand to the opposite terminal. The powerful streamers which issued from his hand and astonished his audiences formed a capital illustration of some of the views advanced, and afforded Mr. Tesla an opportunity of pointing out the true reasons why, with these currents, such an amount of energy can be passed through the body with impunity. He then showed by experiment the difference between a steady and a rapidly varying force upon the dielectric. This difference is most strikingly illustrated in the experiment in which a bulb attached to the end of a wire in connection with one of the terminals of the transformer is ruptured, although all extraneous bodies are remote from the bulb. He next illustrates how mechanical motions are produced by a varying electrostatic force acting through a gaseous medium. The importance of the action of the air is particularly illustrated by an interesting experiment."

I don't blame the moneybags for playing fast and loose with facts to preserve the energy lie.

Regards,
HS

[TheStone]

Hi TheStone,

I always couple the FG signal into a coil by a 2 turn coil between the + and - of the FG, so not "connect" to the coil.
This way the 50 Ohm of the FG does not "load" the coil under test.

Regards Itsu.

Hi Itsu, thanks for the info!, I read it several times, my english may not be to good, but I cant understand well what you mean.

Do you mean "place a two turn coil in parallel with the output of the FG" ? plus do NOT place a 50 ohms resistor to the red output of the FG ?

The coil can be any wire size? like a toroid choke ?

Thanks again,
The Stone.

[TheStone]

hi buddy, very flattered to be referred to, i dont claim to have all the answers, but i am seeing some good results recently.

im kdkinen on youtube, heres my most recent
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

next i plan to parallel the caps up to the run battery while running and see if i can run the system, the bulb, and watch an increase in run battery voltage while using the caps as a buffer.

Hey man, thanks for your replay!! I see you have done lots of good work and share it with all

I am begining on this road, I got me some B&M coils, and looks liket the one with more turns and thiner wire, is the one when in resonance give me out more voltage out. the thing is I am trying to see how can I make this voltage useful, I am guessing with capacitors.

What will be your experience ?

As you see in the fotos :





I havent couple correctly the coil with the FG, need to do that to...

Thank you very much,
The Stone.

[Itsu]

FG couple

Hi Stone,

Do you mean "place a two turn coil in parallel with the output of the FG"

Yes, just take some wire and make a 2 turn coil out of it the same size as the coil you want to measure.
Then loosly couple (wrap the 2 turns around) the measuring coil.

Your FG output impedance is 50 Ohm (like most/all FG's) so now it is not connected directly to the measuring coil and this one now can freely resonate on its own frequency (measure with your scope).

I can make a video if you like, but its really not that complicated.

Regards Itsu

[TheStone]

hi buddy, very flattered to be referred to, i dont claim to have all the answers, but i am seeing some good results recently.

im kdkinen on youtube, heres my most recent
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

next i plan to parallel the caps up to the run battery while running and see if i can run the system, the bulb, and watch an increase in run battery voltage while using the caps as a buffer.

Hi Amigo,

I was looking at your video, very interesting, I just bougt the same plasma driver I see you have, do you have a schematic that you can share ? as I see you have too the B&M coils, which models you have ?



The Stone.

[TheStone]

Hi Stone,

I can make a video if you like, but its really not that complicated.

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu,

Thanks for the time to answer my pots, I think the problem is trying to visualize what you write, english is not my natural language... specially with technical terms, normal english I dont have much problem.

If is not to much trouble, I really apreciate a video

Sincerely:
The Stone.

[Itsu]

Video

Ok Stone,

If is not to much trouble, I really apreciate a video

Here a video, hopefully you got the picture

resonance frequency of a coil - YouTube


Regards itsu

[TheStone]

Ok Stone,

Here a video, hopefully you got the picture

resonance frequency of a coil - YouTube


Regards itsu

Ahhh!!! thanks for taking the time and making the video, very instructive! I can picture now!! I will play with it, to see what responses I get, with your method.

Sincerely,
The Stone.

[mr.clean]

Hi Amigo,

I was looking at your video, very interesting, I just bougt the same plasma driver I see you have, do you have a schematic that you can share ? as I see you have too the B&M coils, which models you have ?



The Stone.

The B&W coils im using are 2404TL, and have a couple 2408TL's and a 2410TL
120$ per coil
ive also used 3408, the 4 inch dia mamas, at 500$ per coil


But dont be fooled by tinned coils and high prices, you can make a very good coil on your own, Dynatron says that bare copper is best.
I just wanted to have the ones that Don used,..... just because i wanted them LOL

the 24 means 3 inch dia, last 2 digits represent the turns per inch 04, 08, 10, and the TL means tinned inductor

AND you have the PVM500, you definitely have most of what you need, im still experimenting with exact values, but il have a schem soon, but in my last vid 33 i feel i show the connections well, let me know.

primary circuit has 15nF with 601uH 102turns tuned to 53 khz.
secondary needs no caps, but has a little more than 10nF with 40uH 18 turns tuned to approx 212 khz.
im actually using 26.5khz on the driver, 53khz actually works with such resistance that it practically seizes right up,

i can actually turn it up to 95volts, and it only draws 100ma, but like i said, such resistance, not much action, with 26.5khz worked best ( half of 53khz)
L1 being tuned to 2 times the driver freq and L2 being tuned to 3 times the driver freq (harmonics)

In music if you take a note and go up an octave, it is still the same note (tone) just exactly doubled, or trippled the frequency, still "in tune"
Seems to work great

[gsmsslsb]

Trying to catch up

Mr Clean
I know its going back a bit but what was your final conclusion with the two ignition coils. Did you get any input/output figures.
Patrick Kelly shows it on page 89 of
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
Why did you move on from this to your present setup.
Sorry to interupt
LV