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[Guruji]

Can anyone translate Dyatron schematic please?
Thanks

[leo48]

Can anyone translate Dyatron schematic please?

I use translator sorry for quality

блок управления твс манипуляция 50 гц =manipulation of the control unit assemblies 50 Hz

трансформатор изолации 15ква = Isolation transformer 15kva

Leo

[janost]

By the way, did you see the warnings on using Li-Ion batteries in this thread post #18)

yes, and I dont really care to much as I'm within the bounds of the upper and lower voltage of the 18650 Li-Ion cell.

But If anyone have concerns then please use NiMh or NiCd instead.

And a fluorostarter is a GDT and not a timedelay.
Yes, It has a bimetal pole and If heated it will short until cool again but it never gets hot in this case.

So it just a sparkgap with a low strike voltage.

Edit: I think it would work the best with lead-acid battery but they are hard to come by at 1.5 - 3v.
It also works much better when running on one battery and charging another but the circuit for automatic switching of the batterys would be complicated.

[Guruji]

I use translator sorry for quality

блок управления твс манипуляция 50 гц =manipulation of the control unit assemblies 50 Hz

трансформатор изолации 15ква = Isolation transformer 15kva

Leo

Thanks Leo

[Dave45]

I dont want to get off subject but has anyone tried putting their coils in battery acid.
Will the battery acid conduct ions.

[janost]

This is my super electronpump using an ignitioncoil and relayticker with a timing cap.

I know the relay will probably break after a couple of hours.
It is very easy to build using simple parts around a 6v SPDT relay, an ignitioncoil and a 400VA stepdown transformer.

The output is 400watts and will charge a Lead-Acid battery and will selfrun with a currentdraw of only 20mA.

[ewizard]

I'm not sure how concentrated battery acid (sulphuric acid) is but if it is strong enough it will eat the copper and many other metals.

[ewizard]

This is my super electronpump using an ignitioncoil and relayticker with a timing cap.

I know the relay will probably break after a couple of hours.
It is very easy to build using simple parts around a 6v SPDT relay, an ignitioncoil and a 400VA stepdown transformer.

The output is 400watts and will charge a Lead-Acid battery and will selfrun with a currentdraw of only 20mA.

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Hi janost, Thanks that looks like an even better one. Can you give any info on the SCR type or model? A couple more questions - do you think this would run on 12 volts? I have a lot of 12 volt relays and a 12 volt ignition coil but no 6 volt relays. Do you think one could replace the relay with a fast MosFET? If this works out with a relay it sure would be great to use solid state switching if it is possible as that would likely make it a very useful circuit versus one that eats relays every day. Actually based on the Imhotep work I tried some relays can take a lot of abuse for many hours. I never did destroy any even with that constant fast switching that was involved in that circuit. But solid state would be great to use.

[janost]

Hi janost, Thanks that looks like an even better one. Can you give any info on the SCR type or model? A couple more questions - do you think this would run on 12 volts? I have a lot of 12 volt relays and a 12 volt ignition coil but no 6 volt relays. Do you think one could replace the relay with a fast MosFET?

My SCR is a BTY-79 screwtype that can handle 10amps.
It doesnt need to be that heavy so anything that can handle 350v 2A will work.

The relay I use is a 6v and it will work with 12v relays but remember that the ignitioncoil generates 20000v on a 12v supply and the diodes have to be able to take the high voltage.

Not sure the 1N4007 can handle 20Kv and you may need several diodes in series.

I plan to use solid state switching but it was easy to test it with a relay.
A mosfet controlled by an Arduino so that the currentdraw can be controlled in a feedbackloop.

[blackrobi]

Schematic posted for Ganzha.

Hi David, Ganzha

Can you tell me what is the source of this pdf? Is there a thread according to that subject? Is it somehow checked?

rgds blackrobi

[ewizard]

My SCR is a BTY-79 screwtype that can handle 10amps.
It doesnt need to be that heavy so anything that can handle 350v 2A will work.

The relay I use is a 6v and it will work with 12v relays but remember that the ignitioncoil generates 20000v on a 12v supply and the diodes have to be able to take the high voltage.

Not sure the 1N4007 can handle 20Kv and you may need several diodes in series.

I plan to use solid state switching but it was easy to test it with a relay.
A mosfet controlled by an Arduino so that the currentdraw can be controlled in a feedbackloop.

Thanks janost! That helps me a lot. One other question since I'm not too familiar with how ratings work on GDT's. I'm looking at some now from a suppler that have a 500 volt breakover voltage and a 10 amp peak current. Would that be a good choice or do I need lower/higher ratings?

[promt]

This is my super electronpump using an ignitioncoil and relayticker with a timing cap.
I know the relay will probably break after a couple of hours.
It is very easy to build using simple parts around a 6v SPDT relay, an ignitioncoil and a 400VA stepdown transformer.
The output is 400watts and will charge a Lead-Acid battery and will selfrun with a currentdraw of only 20mA.

To get your SG working in this setup you need somewhere 0.7-1.0a input;
and output you have 70v 5a, means you have around 60% OU;
pls check your meters, it's probably 5ma.
Would you show pictures of your setup.
Thank you.

[woopy]

Hi Janost

thank's for sharing your "Super Electron Pump " shematic.

I already began the basic circuit to pulse the primary of the stepup transformer.

And by doing this i stumbled upon an experiment that can perhaps interest some of you.

hope this helps

good luck at all

Laurent

High voltage properties testing 1 - YouTube

[Ganzha]

Dyatron= Dynatron?

Sorry to asking
is Dyatron - Dynatron from Odessa?

[Ganzha]

Hi David, Ganzha

Can you tell me what is the source of this pdf? Is there a thread according to that subject? Is it somehow checked?

rgds blackrobi

it is from Ukraniane forum lab 001
nobody check this until now
I have sent it for informaton purposes
http://001-lab.at.ua/forum/2-17-1