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  • Thanks for the link about Hendershot work. I was always curious what things was involved there and not much details are on Internet about this.

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    • Originally posted by harishsingh View Post
      Thanks.

      Yes i have thought of that but its difficult to do anything on that side without disturbing the resonance.

      Any disruptions in the tank immediatly skyrockets the current drawn on the primary side.

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      • I think of it this way.

        The reactance of the primary has not changed, its still 2.98ohm at 50Hz.
        So why did the current drop to 1/3?

        Because the tank is feeding back 2.51A to the primary.
        That is 7.5v in the primary so the powersupply just have to supply 5v into the 2.98ohm reactance.

        Perhaps a current transformer in series with the supply and the primary could work.

        Or halfwave rectified supply with a diode?
        Last edited by janost; 12-06-2012, 09:26 AM.

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        • There is one more solution to what might be happening.

          If the resonant frequency of LC combination is some hertz off from 50Hz there will be a phaseshift.

          0 deg phaseshift is spot on and zero current drawn (minus losses).
          90 deg would be as without capacitor, 100% currentdraw.

          In my case this would equal about 30 deg shift and 1/3 current drawn.
          Last edited by janost; 05-03-2013, 11:55 PM.

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          • Originally posted by T-1000 View Post
            Thanks for the link about Hendershot work. I was always curious what things was involved there and not much details are on Internet about this.
            Here's an interesting Schematic and diagram. Should be a simple matter (using today's equivalents) to play around with: A Story of Free Energy | Journal of Borderland Research
            Resonance to all !

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            • Originally posted by janost View Post
              There is one more solution to what might be happening.

              If the resonant frequency of LC combination is some hertz off from 50Hz there will be a phaseshift.

              0 deg phaseshift is spot on and zero current drawn (minus losses).
              90 deg would be as without capacitor, 100% currentdraw.

              In my case this would equal about 30 deg shift and 1/3 current drawn.
              great posts man!!
              In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
              In the expert's mind there are few.
              -Shunryu Suzuki

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              • Originally posted by harishsingh View Post
                this is awesome, great site, need to use google translate each paragraph, but excellent, thanks!
                In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                In the expert's mind there are few.
                -Shunryu Suzuki

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                • Originally posted by Beamgate View Post
                  Here's an interesting Schematic and diagram. Should be a simple matter (using today's equivalents) to play around with: A Story of Free Energy | Journal of Borderland Research
                  totally cool stuff!
                  In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                  In the expert's mind there are few.
                  -Shunryu Suzuki

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                  • Originally posted by mr.clean View Post
                    this is awesome, great site, need to use google translate each paragraph, but excellent, thanks!
                    Not sure if you know you can just enter the web site URL in Google translate and it will translate the whole page as well as any links on that site that open new pages. Sometimes though Google translate poops out half way down a page and leaves part of a page untranslated. I guess computers get tired too LOL...
                    There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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                    • Originally posted by Beamgate View Post
                      Here's an interesting Schematic and diagram. Should be a simple matter (using today's equivalents) to play around with: A Story of Free Energy | Journal of Borderland Research
                      The capacitor inside LC resonant circuit coil within arranged right magnetic vectors of coil.. That is really interesting and crossed my thoughts about electrostatic induction.

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                      • re-post

                        i would love anyones thoughts on Tesla's patents 336,961 and 336,962

                        http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...sla_patent.pdf

                        http://www.keelynet.com/tesla/00336962.pdf

                        the parts explaining the self-excitation using auxiliary brush and coil in iron case,
                        the regulation using the automatic means,
                        the enhanced effects of the coil with reversed direction windings,
                        the outer ends of L2 being pos and neg rather than neg at center tap
                        the comparison between L1 Don used and the armature Tesla used


                        Understanding of these i believe to critical, as they are most likely the origin of our discussion... and what Don openly based his experiments on
                        Last edited by mr.clean; 12-07-2012, 05:03 AM.
                        In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                        In the expert's mind there are few.
                        -Shunryu Suzuki

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                        • Hi people, made a new bitoroid using the flyback ferrites..... Works better than the last, vid coming soon

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                          Primary approx 40 turns 20 gauge
                          Secondary closest to primary is 6 layers of 22 with 26 gauge
                          Far secondary 4 layers of 22 turns same gauge

                          The metglass and iron failed, but this one is better than the last AND way easier!
                          In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                          In the expert's mind there are few.
                          -Shunryu Suzuki

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                          • Originally posted by mr.clean View Post
                            Hi people, made a new bitoroid using the flyback ferrites..... Works better than the last, vid coming soon

                            ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

                            Primary approx 40 turns 20 gauge
                            Secondary closest to primary is 6 layers of 22 with 26 gauge
                            Far secondary 4 layers of 22 turns same gauge

                            The metglass and iron failed, but this one is better than the last AND way easier!
                            Nice progress

                            Do you still get same 2nd secondary power up effect when shorting one of secondary coils?

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                            • Originally posted by T-1000 View Post
                              Nice progress

                              Do you still get same 2nd secondary power up effect when shorting one of secondary coils?
                              YES, but in order, i'll get to that...
                              i ran out of wire or wouldve made both L2 the same, they are very close though,

                              its very cool!!... the far L2 does Nothing when primary is running, and the close L2 is basically what you would expect from a standard flyback i guess. BUT much improved over the first attempt overall!!

                              BUT the magic really happens when both secondaries are running or shorted as you said.

                              there are no gaps except for the 2 L2 ferrites have a layer of electrical tape to separate them so they act as 2 instead of 1 big core with worse eddy currents.
                              keeping them insulated from their contacting surface was good as i can see.

                              its still not meant for Big current though, this is a last resort after the Metglass didnt perform with the iron as i thought it might, and i just didnt feel like taking the first bitoroid apart but it can take more input before saturating, and provide more light than last time without peaking and leveling out, with my present electronics

                              its very cool how far secondary does nothing until its paralleled, or separately used,
                              the first secondary must be used, in order to make the effect of both secondaries effecting eachother, i think that's interesting. also i insulated each layer of windings on L2's, making it easier to maintain the same number of turns per layer, and from possible srcing between windings. i probably shouldnt have L2 ends wrapped together, but whatever easy to insulate those too

                              and on L1, the coil is one layer, then ran back on to of the first layer to begin again another layer, as i did in last time, and after so many failed trials, im gonna examine more Why it works better with the ferrites than with iron and metglass.
                              maybe ferrite and metglass? idk
                              either way, it seems there is no coupling from L1 to far L2, until first L2 is used, in which case the close L2 becomes the primary for the far L2, and they feed one another with their own building and collapsing fields

                              and i wonder what would happen with thicker L2 wires, with more intense magnetic fields
                              video coming soon
                              Last edited by mr.clean; 12-07-2012, 04:41 PM.
                              In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities.
                              In the expert's mind there are few.
                              -Shunryu Suzuki

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                              • I need to drive my setup spot on resonance.
                                I cant do with a 30deg phaseshift.

                                I have to set up a MOSFET or 3055 and a program in Arduino so that I hit exact resonance.

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