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  • #31
    I saw it too.

    Just the other day, while on vacation at Lake Mulwala, on the NSW/Victorian border, I looked up and saw a contrail in what was an otherwise clear blue sky. Not a cloud in sight. The temperature was in the mid 30's, and had been for a few days.

    Thinking nothing much of it, I went about my business.

    A couple of hours later, I noticed thin cloud massing south of that area, then to my surprise, I saw more contrails. Two appeared to be almost hugging each other in one direction, and two were doing the same thing in another direction.

    I decided to look more closely at this as the day progressed from noon into the early afternoon, and was quite surprised to see 2 high speed, high altitude aircraft, trailing rapidly expanding contrails, travelling a mere couple of minutes apart, yet in the very same direction, with the contrails almost merging at the point where the trailing aircraft caught up with the contrail of the leader.

    Then I turned my head and saw another 2 aircraft doing the very same thing, yet traversing in a different direction. Basically 2 were travelling north/south, and the other 2 were travelling east/west.

    I kept an eye out for them over the course of the afternoon and they never seemed to let up, they just kept going and going, covering what appeared to be a very large grid.

    As they progressed, the area directly south of them was massing with thin white cloud, which progressively grew more dense and started to darken, in massive contrast to the clear blue sky directly north of the area they were traversing.

    At one point, I alerted my brother in law, who fully stopped the speedboat we had been hurtling around in, and he looked up at what I was showing him, which was clearly 4 aircraft, 2 going each way, all clearly visible in the same vista of sky. We could see all 4 of them at the same time as we were pretty much in the middle of Lake Mulwala, thus nothing was obstructing our view, we could see for literally miles all around us.

    About an hour later, my brother in law stopped the boat and asked incredulously, "is that rain" and sure enough, small raindrops were falling on and around us for a minute or so, yet directly to the north of us, the sky was crystal clear and blue, with the main mass of rapidly darkening cloud being still far off to the south of where we were. We sat there for a few minutes, taking it all in, then went back to where we were staying.

    A few of the other guests then started commenting in passing about the cloud gatherings to the south and we then told them what we had seen, to their obviously skeptical gazes.

    As late afternoon overtook us, it was a delight to interupt holiday conversation by pointing up at the aircraft as they appeared, and explaining what we thought was going on, to the now visibly concerned holiday makers, who could then clearly see exactly what we were talking about, as it was happening right before their very own eyes.

    It then became a game, with people frequently looking up, searching for the aircraft, which did not disappoint us, for they appeared again and again and again.

    The aircraft were too high up to identify, too high even to detect their colour, they just appeared silver or grey. No engine sound was heard at all. If you never happened to be looking up at the right time, you'd have never seen them.

    Strange stuff alright.

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    • #32
      That's EXACTLY how I saw it unfolding, except for the rain - but everything else matches.

      Freaky
      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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      • #33
        The rain.

        Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
        That's EXACTLY how I saw it unfolding, except for the rain - but everything else matches.

        Freaky
        T'was freaky alright.

        We could feel the odd small drop starting to hit us, which isn't unusual at high speed on the water, so we slowed to a stop and it kept on coming, it was very brief and very light rain though.

        The lake water around us was quite calm and you could see the sprinkles around the boat, thus it wasn't simply a spray from the boat. No other water craft were in our immediate vicinity either, just us.

        We sat dead in the water for a minute or two. Once it stopped, we headed off again.

        I think the aim in what they're doing is, not to create rain in the seeding area, rather, they seed where they believe the high altitude air currents will do their bit, and carry the now generating cloud formations along, perhaps strategically to dump where they want it to dump, or rather, where they hope it will dump.

        A bit odd how the Vic Gov have done squat about the drastically low water catchment levels, and it seems as though they don't care about it at all, then all of a sudden, we're getting most unusual rainfall levels in the catchment areas, even while the rest of the joint is frying as per the same as it has for the last decade or so. Then again, it's really not all that surprising when you consider that the Vic Gov is argueably the shiftiest and most corrupt state in the country.

        Many years ago, I saw something about cloud seeding on the news here, it made national headlines at the time, where farmers were asking for permission to seed the sky for rain, claiming they could turn inland Australia into an oasis of farming land, and from memory, the Fed Gov denied them and I may be wrong here, but I think that the practice of cloud seeding was outlawed Australia wide.

        I dare say, I'd hate to be hanging by the scrotum waiting for the shifty bastards to ever admit they're doing it at all.

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        • #34
          chemtrails

          Silver iodide has been used for years as the cloud seeding substance of
          choice - even by the US Forest Service.

          This is a recent article about the Chinese not only doing weather modification
          but they have hundreds of thousands of offices in China dedicated to
          weather modification.
          China blames freak storm on global warming

          Anyway, I live 20 minutes from Fairchild AFB and it is a TANKER base so I
          have the privilege of seeing a whole fleet of tankers zip back and forth
          blocking my sunshine. Narrow rows and tic tac toe patterns of trails that
          slowly widen out make contact with others and then 100% cloud coverage.

          And, the weather satellite photos show clear sky...they're all full of it.

          I have seen this on a frequent basis here for about 10 years now and have
          snapped some time lapse photos about 8 years ago showing this. Totally
          and completely NOT condensation.

          I grew up on Air Force bases and was such an airplane fanatic that I was
          always watching when planes passed overhead and there was NEVER
          any such phenomena. Once in a while a real contrail would last for a while
          but long enough for another and another and another and another to
          join it and spread out and cover the whole sky? Sorry, never happened.

          When you live on an Air Force base, the whole base is built around a
          flightline so there is no shortage of planes flying around - ample opportunity
          to see any trails.

          I do trust my memory and I was consciously aware that I was deliberately
          looking at the contrails...no, nothing like what we see today.

          Up to about 6 years ago or so, many of these tankers would spray their
          chemtrails and all the trails would abruptly cut off all at the same location
          west of town and they'd do the same on the east end by Coeur d'Alene, ID
          area (town east of my town).

          Eventually, I think they realized how ridiculous it looked that
          what they do now is spray much more a bit south of town so that the wind
          will drift it directly over the town. They do still spray directly overhead,
          but not like they used to.

          Dennis Kucinich is the only member of congress to deliberately spell out
          CHEMTRAILS in one of his bill I believe.
          Rep Kucinich Rewrites HR 2977 - 'Chemtrails' Disappear
          Last edited by Aaron; 01-10-2010, 02:02 AM.
          Sincerely,
          Aaron Murakami

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          • #35
            Lawwalk did hulluva job documenting chemtrails here - UFO Casebook - Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas

            Check all 10 pages for some excellent photos.

            ABC

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            • #36
              Great info Aaron, thanks.

              I saw an odd occurence the other day, I cant be sure if it is limited to normal weather phenomenon or if it was something more exotic.

              I was in North Sydney, and I noticed a MASSIVE thunder head cloud building up out west. The thing was enormus! It billowed up and up until it reached a certain height, and promptly smeared itself across the sky, out towards the coast. I say smeared because it looked like someone had dipped their finger in a tin of clouds (paint) and dragged it across the sky. There was a clear line where it went from blue sky to dense purple cloud, and back to blue sky again.

              Perhaps this could be explained with upper atmosphere conditions, it could have been that there was a high wind that high up, and when the thunder head reached it it was flung across the sky. I was just amazed at how defined this was, it was like a road of cloud, coming from the thunderhead.

              There was also that unnatural ripple effect all through it, like someone had thrown a stone into a pond, and the ripples were making there way out.

              Very strange stuff, could have been a natural occurence, but it definately didnt look natural.

              No rain followed to late that night, on the coast anyway, I thought we were up for a storm, but the sky just stayed purple.

              Regards

              EDIT: I found some interesting information in the link I posted earlier regarding so called "dry storms". It sounds very much like what I saw above.

              "Barium and aluminium powder act together to create a diffuse electrical field. This field can then be pulsed, from aircraft as well as from the earth, with extremely low-frequency (ELF) radio waves. This leads to massive electrostatic discharges in the region between the atmosphere and the stratosphere—artificially creating ozone in the process! An interesting side-effect of this pulsing of cloud-layers is the resulting “dry storms”, or thunderstorms with no rainfall whatsoever: The electrically charged air layers react to the ozone formation with veritable lightning storms. This summer, just such “dry storms” lit up the skies of North-Western Switzerland at least twenty times—a phenomenon that led to widespread questioning, and had never been observed in this form before."

              Link: http://www.bluenomore.com/WhiteSkies.html
              Last edited by ren; 01-11-2010, 06:32 AM.
              "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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              • #37
                "Dennis Kucinich, Democratic presidential candidate and Congressional Representative for the State of Ohio, tabled two motions (‘Space Preservation Acts’) to Congress, in 2001 and again in 2002. These motions call for a comprehensive ban on space-based weapons systems, and Kucinich specifically listed chemtrails in this category. In the first week of June 2003 he was a panel member at a public hearing on chemtrails in Santa Cruz, California. Responding to a question from the audience, Kucinich, who had obtained access to confidential military documents in order to draw up his motions, uttered three words which should ring true to the public ear at last: “Chemtrails are real!”
                "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                • #38
                  Wow! What's the source of that quote Ren?

                  BTW, I've personally witnessed these as well (criss-crossing right-angle trails as well as other types) and it boggles the mind how rational people will continue to try to explain them away as just ice crystal condensation. Even after they spread out and cover a large portion of the sky people will still hold on that explanation. It's interesting to note that such "clouds" have prismatic effects when their edges get close to the sun, or that they seemingly melt (not disappear, but actually melt) in front of your eyes.

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                  • #39
                    Hi Shamus,

                    the link is in the above post. Well worth the read.

                    Regards
                    "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                    • #40
                      Last year Kucinich refused to attend a closed session of Congress (in August or September i believe); he publicly stated that this was a "trick" to insure no one who attended could, by Federal law, talk about what was discussed in the session (so when illegalities were presented, no one there could talk about them). He said he had been tricked by this tactic in the past. Last year right before he dropped out of the Presidential Primaries (before any of the big states had voted), his brother died. That little tid bit never made the national news.

                      I've followed DK a long, long time: I was a kid living in the area when he was the Mayor of Cleveland, and took on the local electric utility and stopped them from stealing the municipal power plant... And that utility and the banks called in all the Municipal Bonds illegally to send the city into Default, as punishment... This is fact, and they were later found guilty of it; both the "Cleveland Trust Bank" and the "Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company" changed their names (the latter to "First Energy Corp.", still in business). Ever hear about that on the national news?? It happened.

                      He fights the battles he thinks he can win; i suspect he knows this "chemtrails" one is a loser until public awareness grows significantly.

                      At any moment, there are over a thousand pilots who will get up and swear that anyone who "believes" in chemtrails needs to be fitted for a straight jacket. The only thing stopping a major disinfo campaign like this from happening, is that they don't want any more attention to this issue than is already happening (any attention is bad attention from their point of view).

                      When all we need do is "look up to the sky" and see for ourselves, consider the incredible power this government, and mainstream media has, that it can deny the ridiculously obvious for years and get away with it with no problem at all. This is beyond anything ever recorded before in History.

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                      • #41
                        A week ago a plane leave its trail and the trail seems to change into clouds:




                        The sky seems bluer today (my crappy phone camera don't show it). I remember previous day being whiter sky. But around 7.30 am a plane with trail appear.




                        However the trail do not change into clouds. It dissapear. About 30 minutes later clouds are forming, but they look like natural cloud.





                        Thinking positive toward plane: maybe the plane is friend and spray chemical to produce natural cloud.

                        Thinking negative toward plane: maybe there are chem busting activity happen here at the same time I start observing the sky. The chemtrail produced by the plane then converted into dust. and then attract natural globby cloud to form instead of sky white out.


                        The effect seems similar to chem busting activity. Chem buster only destroy artificial cloud and will not put hole in natural cloud. Cloud buster will put hole on natural cloud too. While I want to make one, I never build cloud buster or chem buster yet. Although I do put my cemenite on the roof to let it dry lol .

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                        • #42
                          @Rosco and Ben

                          PWWWEZ KEEP YOUR RAIN WATER, if you send it to me, i have marine biologist who can test it, we already have a global rain water collection program under way with some participating, we got rain water tested from a government lab(on the Panacea chemtrail page), we need more, so guys please if you can KEEP YOUR RAIN WATER, ill pay for you to send it up out of my own pocket.

                          Ash

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                          • #43
                            you mean me? Sure, i'll gather up some rain water in a steam cleaned glass bottle next time it rains. Email me a postal address.

                            P.s. Why?
                            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                              P.s. Why?
                              http://www.energeticforum.com/genera...ead.php?t=5596


                              There is another chemtrail just now. It doesn't stay or form cloud too.



                              Blob of cloud also form about 10 minutes after that at very low altitude. And another sylph? cloud at yet lower altitude and move very fast.

                              Non uniform trail dispersing usually show cloud busting activity?

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                              • #45
                                I dont think that the Trails are healthy, there are some Pictures from them,
                                what shows some of the structure from it, it is Aluminium Barium and few other
                                Things, which have all negative Sideeffects, even, when the Clouds look natural.
                                We had 2 Weeks in July where no Trails did appear, and we did guess,
                                that they change her Cocktail.
                                But it been very hot Days with less Storms, when they spray,
                                we got each 3 Days a Storm.

                                A Video from Rome, not sure, if this a Afterburner or a Sprayer.
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                                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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