Spontaneous charging radiantly charged capacitor research group

[Inquorate]

Test on pre conditioned capacitor

339 Ohm resistor 10w
100v 10000 uF cap

Dc charge 25 sec
Dc discharge 37 sec; 5 degree increase

Radiant charge 26 sec
Radiant discharge 37 sec; 4 degree increase

More soon when the capacitor is conditioned

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, pre conditioning.

[morpher44]

self charging capacitors

It seems to me that a capacitor will be subject to background radiation.
Capacitors LOVE high frequency ... and there is EMF from space
in the 16Ghz ... 33Ghz range ... that are quite substantial.
Every once and a while these PING a capacitor ... charging it.

Capacitors are well known to "self charge".

Subjecting a capacitor to lots and lots of abuse might poke
microscope little tunnels through the dielectric providing
low-dielectric-constant pathways for high voltage high frequency
to travel -- seeking the path of least resistance through the
material.

In messing around with a car ignition coil and high voltage AC,
I was puzzled to see a phenomenon whereby black electrical tape
was punctured by a high voltage ARC ... and from that point
on, the current would always seek that path avoiding all others.
I lost faith in black electrical tape as an insulator for these
types of experiments.

Capacitors have a voltage rating ... but these very
mysterious high-frequency/high-voltage ... quick ...
radiant voltage spikes my go off the scale with respect
to that rating.

This is all pure speculation on my part ... but speculating is fun.

[sucahyo]

More soon when the capacitor is conditioned

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, pre conditioning.

I have been following your video so far and I get very intrigued to know wether different kind of radiant charging would result in different charge.

Is it possible, if you have time, to compare discharge speed of this kind of charging:
- AV plug charging or one wire charging.
- secondary coil charging.
- earth grounding charging.
- low power direct radiant, output from collector or switch.
- trough a intermediate cap, radiant output is collected to a high voltage cap then blasted to the testing cap.

There is no way all the above methode produce the same radiant quality.

[Inquorate]

Post 30min conditioning test

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, post 30min conditioning.

Dc charge 21 sec
Dc discharge 43 sec 6 degree increase

Radiant charge 25 sec
Radiant discharge 41 sec 3 degree increase

The evidence appears to show that capacity increases, and resistance to charging decreases.

Notice how the capacitor now holds a charge longer.

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The normal dc is a negative push.

The radiant spike is a positive pull.

I imagine a ground to negative of cap with bedini would increase charge rate.

One wire to avramenko plug would be quite slow.

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So, something happens to the capacitor. I like morpher's idea, but have always speculated that the atomic lattice of the cap becomes more organised, and can sustain electrons in the gaps; pseudo or otherwise.

[Inquorate]

Methods

I have been following your video so far and I get very intrigued to know wether different kind of radiant charging would result in different charge.

Is it possible, if you have time, to compare discharge speed of this kind of charging:
- AV plug charging or one wire charging.
- secondary coil charging.
- earth grounding charging.
- low power direct radiant, output from collector or switch.
- trough a intermediate cap, radiant output is collected to a high voltage cap then blasted to the testing cap.

There is no way all the above methode produce the same radiant quality.

I believe a cap pulser changes the quality of the charge. I'll run some more tests, and invite others to do so also.

Love and light

[stringguy]

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, post 30min conditioning.

Dc charge 21 sec
Dc discharge 43 sec 6 degree increase

Radiant charge 25 sec
Radiant discharge 41 sec 3 degree increase

i'm confused here, if the dc charges faster and discharges slower isnt that the better option?
also, can you explain briefly the degree thing please?
thanks from harpbloke

[Inquorate]

Harp, string.

i'm confused here, if the dc charges faster and discharges slower isnt that the better option?
also, can you explain briefly the degree thing please?
thanks from harpbloke

I've never made the connection before harpbloke stringuy.

The cap was only 'conditioned' for half an hour, so I suspect it became 'unconditioned' when it was put in the dc test.

I just wanted a test that would not invite too much scepticism, but ppl say that once conditioned to accept radiant charge, a capacitor will accept normal dc less readily.

I need to condition the capacitor for longer and rerun the test, minus the dc this time; same setup with the bedini solid state charger - which I will do tomorrow.

It should charge much better; when I was comparing 2 caps in previous experiments the results were much more significant, but the conditioned cap had been used extensively.

Hope that answers everyone's questions. If not, pls ask again

It's a strange road we travel..

[Inquorate]

The degree thing

Knew I'd missed something.

The degree thing is the temperature increase on the resistor used to discharge the capacitor. It shows that real work is being done during discharge.

Love and light

[Matthew Jones]

Well I'll just wait on the meter to come in... If I got to do all that.

I would be willing to bet they remain the same capacitance. they just charge faster an higher from the spiking.

I did 3 test last night while setting up they all came real close to each other.

Where you might see a gain is if you discharge after they bounce back. again and again. Start counting the recharge value into the total.

One factor to is, especially with the high farad cap, is that it will not get over the "Step Up" voltage in the monopole. I have measured the regular voltage that comes out on the scope (Not the radiant spike) it lies right around 19.5 volt. So the radiant is not really contributing to the charge like you see in a smaller cap. 100v 1000uf cap will charge up to 200volt +.

I'll do a couple more tests when I get a meter. That will sum it up.


Cheers
Matt

[DrStiffler]

339 Ohm resistor 10w
100v 10000 uF cap

Dc charge 25 sec
Dc discharge 37 sec; 5 degree increase

Radiant charge 26 sec
Radiant discharge 37 sec; 4 degree increase

More soon when the capacitor is conditioned

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, pre conditioning.

@Inquorate

Please help clear the fog from my old brain this AM.

First;

Dc charge 25 sec
Dc discharge 37 sec; 5 degree increase

Radiant charge 26 sec
Radiant discharge 37 sec; 4 degree increase

Just the temperature says something is crazy here. The so called Radiant is far less energy? I'm not following the procedure here.

Dc charge 25 sec

Charge to what 1T ~63.2% of Vc or 5T ~ 99.3% of Vc?
If you charge to 5T and the capacity is 1E-2 then isn't this correct for what it should be? tc = 5 -> C = 1E-2 :: R = tc/C -> 5/1E-2 = 500 ohms??

What am I missing in the numbers you get and the procedure?

[Inquorate]

@Inquorate

Please help clear the fog from my old brain this AM.

First;



Just the temperature says something is crazy here. The so called Radiant is far less energy? I'm not following the procedure here.


Charge to what 1T ~63.2% of Vc or 5T ~ 99.3% of Vc?
If you charge to 5T and the capacity is 1E-2 then isn't this correct for what it should be? tc = 5 -> C = 1E-2 :: R = tc/C -> 5/1E-2 = 500 ohms??

What am I missing in the numbers you get and the procedure?

The first (unconditioned cap) dc discharge took 37 sec from 100 v to 0 v, the resistor went from 19 to 24 degrees. Radiant discharge resistor went from 23 to 27 degrees in same time. Ambient temp 19 degrees

Conditioned, dc cap discharge from 100v to 0v took 43 sec, resistor went from 20 to 26 degrees. Ambient temp 20. Radiant discharge 41 sec, temp of resistor went from 25 to 28 degrees.

I had assumed people would watch the video of the two experiments and would understand the numbers.

I don't understand the math you presented, but if it's correct in one case, it will be incorrect in another case - meaning the capacitor when conditioned has changed in some way.

Once conditioned it takes Less time to charge to 100v, more time to discharge to 0v. Cap holds more energy with less effort.

It also maintains charge better before discharge, as is evident in the videos.

it's all evident in the videos

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, pre conditioning.

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, post 30min conditioning.

Love and light

[Inquorate]

Nothing is mysterious

But it's still pretty cool

YouTube - theory of what is happening to a conditioned capacitor

[DrStiffler]

The first (unconditioned cap) dc discharge took 37 sec from 100 v to 0 v, the resistor went from 19 to 24 degrees. Radiant discharge resistor went from 23 to 27 degrees in same time. Ambient temp 19 degrees

Conditioned, dc cap discharge from 100v to 0v took 43 sec, resistor went from 20 to 26 degrees. Ambient temp 20. Radiant discharge 41 sec, temp of resistor went from 25 to 28 degrees.

I had assumed people would watch the video of the two experiments and would understand the numbers.

I don't understand the math you presented, but if it's correct in one case, it will be incorrect in another case - meaning the capacitor when conditioned has changed in some way.

Once conditioned it takes Less time to charge to 100v, more time to discharge to 0v. Cap holds more energy with less effort.

It also maintains charge better before discharge, as is evident in the videos.

it's all evident in the videos

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, pre conditioning.

YouTube - capacitor charge and discharge test, post 30min conditioning.

Love and light

@Inquorate

Well I did watch the vids and still do not see your point, in fact the above makes no sense to me, therefore I'll just bow out and let those that see and understand it.

[Inquorate]

In conclusion

following extensive experiments on bedini conditioned caps;

I believe the aether inrush following coil magnetic field collapse organises the atomic structure of the plates and the dielectric.

I would be interested if someone could actually measure the capacity with a meter pre and post conditioning, to see if the capacity actually increases.

If it doesn't, the capacitor will have to be accessing the aether / ZPE field - this would explain the lower losses of charge.

[Inquorate]

Understanding

@Inquorate

Well I did watch the vids and still do not see your point, in fact the above makes no sense to me, therefore I'll just bow out and let those that see and understand it.

All I really know is that a capacitor that is 'conditioned' 1) charges quicker 2) holds that charge better 3) discharges over longer time period, than when not 'conditioned'.

The rest is speculative.

Thankyou for your input Dr Stiffler, it has been much appreciated.