Spontaneous charging radiantly charged capacitor research group

[Inquorate]

Dc vs radiant

It is fairly well understood that the radiant collapse of a coil is mainly fluffy; voltage with little current.

This explains the lower temp increase when the bedini charge is shorted thru the resistor.

Pulse charging and use of earth ground increases the electron content and thus makes the charge more permanent.

[Inquorate]

A second explanation for conditioned capacitor behavior

YouTube - second explanation of what happens once capacitor is conditioned

This is maybe a better analogy.

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[sucahyo]

From the experiment so far, there is no significant difference between radiantly conditioned capacitor and normal dc conditioned capacitor?

Just to be sure, is there a mention somewhere that capacitor store radiant as radiant?

If the result of the experiment so far do not show much of a difference, is it possible that capacitor always behave the same and self charging work just as good with normal dc as radiant one?

[Inquorate]

From the experiment so far, there is no significant difference between radiantly conditioned capacitor and normal dc conditioned capacitor?

Just to be sure, is there a mention somewhere that capacitor store radiant as radiant?

If the result of the experiment so far do not show much of a difference, is it possible that capacitor always behave the same and self charging work just as good with normal dc as radiant one?

If the capacitor is well conditioned, it can accept radiant charge 4 times quicker than an unconditioned cap will accept radiant charge.

If a cap is conditioned it can accept dc or radiant charge quicker, have less standing leakage, and discharge over longer time.

A capacitor filled with radiant energy is still filled with fluffy voltage, that will do less work. An actual ground wire and resting period may help alleviate this.

More testing needs to be done re ground wire to see if the temperature increase of discharge resistor can be increased to normal dc level, or if indeed radiant energy is just less resistive. That could also account for the lower temperature increase.

In short, we need to do more tests - the results are so far showing anomalies but are not understood.

[Inquorate]

Possible use for conditioned capacitor phenomena

Here's the idea; quite simple. But the wiring and circuit design is giving me headaches so I'm asking for help.

YouTube - need help with a circuit

Thankyou in advance if you can help.

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[DrStiffler]

Here's the idea; quite simple. But the wiring and circuit design is giving me headaches so I'm asking for help.

YouTube - need help with a circuit

Thankyou in advance if you can help.

Love and light

@Inquorate

Might check this out in your spare time, then what I was trying to get across will be clearer.

YouTube - EECE 251 - RC Circuits tutorial 01

[Inquorate]

Penny drops

@Inquorate

Might check this out in your spare time, then what I was trying to get across will be clearer.

YouTube - EECE 251 - RC Circuits tutorial 01

Now I get it, you're suggesting an experiment to verify all the math on a cap wired like in the video, then same cap when conditioned repeated in above test, and see if the ratios have changed and how.

That way we can try determine if cap has just returned to maximum functioning or if something wacky is going on.

Let me get a grip on the idea and I'll have another crack at it... I still don't have capacitance meter so it may be weeks till I can contribute.

I see the sense in the experiment though. I think.

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[Inquorate]

Math

Ps those curved integer? Lines with little numbers at the top is where I lost track of geometry and trigonometry and calculus in high school, along with evolving matrix equations.

I revisited it when I was trying to understand math of quantum physics.

But I surrendered and laid down my sword. I'm afraid with complicated math I'm a lost cause, hence heavy on the experiments and light on the theory.

Still, Thankyou for taking the time to try and poke our brains re the appropriate experiments.

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[Matthew Jones]

I got the new caps in today. The meter should be tomorrow, if they aren't lying about the turn around time.

You can use 3 dpdt's and set up a Tesla switch. Need schematic?
I have disdconnected my batterries from the tesla switch that had with caps inline. In continued to run for some time.
But I understand thats not what you are doing but I just wanted to let you know it works, the wiring that is.

Matt

[Inquorate]

Wiring

a schematic or link to one would be wonderful.

Looking forward to your results

[Inquorate]

Crob227

This is a wonderful example imho of shuttling energy back and forth between capacitors.

Crob227 sent me the link a while ago and I only just now took a look at it...

YouTube - water cracker 5

[Matthew Jones]

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ter-24volt.jpg

This is one Posted for a 24 volt system, but you can just remove one set of batterries. The Low voltage switch setup was a way to drive it but any signal will work.
I have a small movie of this circiut that will drive it.

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ting_relay.jpg

The movie is here

YouTube - Resonating Relay.

You might wanna use an outside power source and stuff for switching.

Its a real simple little tesla switch that works well. You can also find a version in the Kromrey Converter Brandt Tesla switch report from Mueller.
I don't know where that link is.

Matt

[sucahyo]

Elegant circuit, all relay, I like them better than the one with transistor and chip .

After reading Peter Lindemann comment I decide to hear the bounce:
YouTube - Sound of capacitor bouncing internal resistance

Capacitor is on joule thief like circuit output, where the frequency of the circuit change according to the load internal resistance (I notice the output current going down when the frequency increase).

After the capacitor is shorted with 24V light bulb (2x12 in series) it doesn't increase frequency (indicate charging) right away, it going up and down for a while.

[Matthew Jones]

Elegant circuit, all relay, I like them better than the one with transistor and chip

Ya it works but you really can't run any serious amperage, or speeds unless you buy high dollar relays.

There is an easier version than that but I am using 8 of these Relays. I use the Patrick Kelly schematic from the practical guide...
I use a coil/magnet arrangment producing AC to drive them.

Real simple, but off topic.

Cheers
Matt

[sucahyo]

Ya it works but you really can't run any serious amperage, or speeds unless you buy high dollar relays.

It still better than solid state relay. The solid state relay on your link has 0.5 mili seconds max turn off time, which is about 250 times slower than NE555, which I guess means the signal fall time may be about 250 times slower too. And since fast fall time currently being pursued for better output or higher effciency, using solid state relay at high frequency may give worse result than mechanical relay at very very slow frequency.